Music
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 10:39 pm, BAR wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
TOP POSTED ON PURPOSE.......

Harry is a legend in his own mind. He fancies himself a wit. He's only
half right.

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a
lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long
before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled
within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school
I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I
got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in
those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and
pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular
public school calendar?

Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was
smart enough to graduate from high school.
What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife,
36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we
still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the
Nixon administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest
son of a bitch on earth too?

With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment.

I remember, quite a few years ago, being warned that if you tangled
with Harry you would end up on the floor in a pool of blood. Well I am
not afraid of Harry. I see through him and he is nothing but a mean old
man who resents the world for passing him by.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, and now you see what you get when you answer one of Joes drunken
queries. Someone like him questioning my parenting skills or yours is
just obsurd. He shows all the signs of an abused child, gone to the
bottle. Pitiful, but he seems to deserve his self loathing, brings it
on himself I am sure...

=================


Wow. I wasn't even part of this discussion at the point where Bert was
responding. Whatever you're distilling out behind the barn, it must be some
serious stuff.

Music
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 10:33 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:44:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
If the syllabus is meddled with by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in
some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that
difficult to melt those evil forces.

Actually it wasn't really as bad when she was in school as it is now.
The political agends of these "environmentalist" cults permiates all
levels of government. They take something like global warming, some
obscure endangered animal or second hand smoke and make a case that
far exceeds the science. Then they say if you can't swallow the whole
package, you are denying any of it ... much like any other
fundalmentalist who says you are a heathen if you don't agree with
100% of their dogma.

We had a simiar problem a few years ago when one of our little ones
came home crying because the teacher told the kid mom was going to die
soon because she smoked, then showed these 5th graders horrible
pictures of lung damage and such...

============================


Well, it's true. Sure, someone can point to an exception like their granny
who smoked 2 packs of Camels a day and lived to be 98. But, exceptions mean
nothing in the face of overwhelming statistics.

Music
 

On Jan 28, 3:12*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in "pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?

I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.

Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.

Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet longer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Won't have those much longer either...

Music
 

On Jan 28, 11:16*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:12*pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in "pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?

I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.

Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.

Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet longer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Won't have those much longer either...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What? Home school?

Music
 

On Jan 28, 3:52*pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Music
 

wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 11:16 pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:12 pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in
that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in
"pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?

I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public
schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.

Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.

Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet
longer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Won't have those much longer either...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What? Home school?

=============

Closets???

Music
 

On Jan 28, 11:29*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:52*pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along;)

Music
 

On Jan 28, 10:37*pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29*pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52*pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along;)

I have two of them. These arn't my pics:

http://u-coms.com/lado/images/fv68_700.jpg

http://www.denniscoffeysite.com/imag...nfirebird6.jpg

Music
 

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:41:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 9:09 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





wrote in message

...
On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

wrote in message

.. .

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of
"environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but
they
will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education
system embraces

Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening
in
a
school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places
where
my
son should avoid raising a family.

So, where?

Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club
and
the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just
stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem
to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently
it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary,
driven
by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you
mean,
too?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are
always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last
few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local
elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and
teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they
have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as
stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian
bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant
political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids
friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing
the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them
with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together
and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each
other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the
christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just
play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough?

=============================

How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

middleschool....

==========================

That sort of late for a kid to NOT be able to demand accountability from
authority figures who also happen to be service providers. Not surprising,
though, considering that it's YOUR kid.

Maybe you should tell your kid that the teacher is your employee, and the
kids are **THE CUSTOMERS**.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I knew you were gonna' put it on me, that's why I usually don't bother
addressing you, and will not bother again....

===================


You've said that before. You'll be back. Kids need to know when and how to
question authority, because in most instances, the "authority" is chosen and
paid by the person being governed, taught or whatever. Where do YOU think
they're supposed to learn that from? A cereal box?


I sure hope you had your mirror time today. You know, when you tell
yourself just how f**king perfect you are.
--
John H

Music
 

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:38:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8
years of actual water sampling.


I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap. Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?


Damn, Doug, you're really giving Harry a run for his money in the 'I'm all
perfect' category!
--
John H