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JoeSpareBedroom January 28th 08 09:48 PM

Music
 
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in
"pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?
I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public
schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.
Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.
Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet
longer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Anyway, speaking of music, check this out;)

http://www.360synergy.com/presskit.html

some weird ****, not much info.. why do I care about such a project?
I have my reasons;)



Not *my* kind of guitar. Most of the ones I like are made in Spain. I
really like the sound, feel and look of certain Ramirez guitars, for
example, or the cedar-topped Manuel Rodriguez Jr. guitars.


That's like saying you don't like barberry bushes, but prefer sycamore trees
instead. Two totally different concepts.



HK January 28th 08 09:52 PM

Music
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:

HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in
"pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?
I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public
schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.
Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.
Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet
longer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Anyway, speaking of music, check this out;)

http://www.360synergy.com/presskit.html

some weird ****, not much info.. why do I care about such a project?
I have my reasons;)


Not *my* kind of guitar. Most of the ones I like are made in Spain. I
really like the sound, feel and look of certain Ramirez guitars, for
example, or the cedar-topped Manuel Rodriguez Jr. guitars.


That's like saying you don't like barberry bushes, but prefer sycamore trees
instead. Two totally different concepts.


\\


No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars.

JoeSpareBedroom January 28th 08 10:00 PM

Music
 
wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:50:59 -0500, HK wrote:

If this is truly a "free" country, then no one, not even a child, should
have to participate in a mandatory "pledge" to an inanimate object, such
as a flag.


They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of
"environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they
will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education
system embraces



Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a
school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my
son should avoid raising a family.

So, where?



[email protected] January 28th 08 10:32 PM

Music
 
On Jan 28, 4:34*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:





Tim wrote:


HK wrote:
Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that
unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post
reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in "pledging"
or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content?


I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching
reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to
think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public schools.
We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges.


Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the
near future either.


Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet longer.-
Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Anyway, speaking of music, check this out;)

http://www.360synergy.com/presskit.html

some weird ****, not much info.. *why do I care about such a project?
I have my reasons;)

==================

Your reason: *It's nothing but pictures.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


mildly funny...

HK January 28th 08 10:45 PM

Music
 
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:03:37 -0500, HK wrote:

New Haven. School prayer was *kaput* at my school by the fifth grade,
and if memory serves, there was no "pledge" in junior high or high
school. We weren't much into desk diving, either. In fact, I remember my
7th Grade science teacher telling us that since we lived in New Haven,
where much military armament was made, and where many machine tools were
made, we were on the prime target list anyway, and would certainly be
vaporized if a nuclear war started.


I was in DC, in the 50s that was going to be the first bomb. We still
did the duck and cover exercise ... in the hall, not under your desk
with all those windows. We were in 2d grade and still knew it was a
dumb idea. Ince it was clear the Soviets had a deliverable hydrogen
bomb they cut all of that out.(that was the "kiss your ass goodbye"
joke).
We did have the pledge and the lords prayer until middle school. (1960
or so). I don't know if that was a PC thing or just a middle school
thing.




We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot of
community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it
happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the school
system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it just
stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior high (we
had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more, though),
there was no morning standing and pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!

BAR January 28th 08 11:02 PM

Music
 
HK wrote:

We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot of
community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it
happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the school
system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it just
stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior high (we
had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more, though),
there was no morning standing and pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!


Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular public
school calendar?



HK January 28th 08 11:06 PM

Music
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot
of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it
happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the
school system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it
just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior
high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more,
though), there was no morning standing and pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!


Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular public
school calendar?



Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was smart
enough to graduate from high school.

Eisboch January 28th 08 11:39 PM

Music
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:



One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!




The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge" quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the morning
ritual.

I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.

I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".

Eisboch



BAR January 29th 08 12:50 AM

Music
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot
of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it
happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the
school system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended,
it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior
high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no
more, though), there was no morning standing and pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!


Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular
public school calendar?



Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was smart
enough to graduate from high school.


What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife,
36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we
still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the Nixon
administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest son of a
bitch on earth too?

With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment.




JoeSpareBedroom January 29th 08 01:17 AM

Music
 
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of
"environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they
will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education
system embraces



Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a
school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where
my
son should avoid raising a family.

So, where?


Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and
the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just
stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem
to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently
it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven
by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers



Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?




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