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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: HK wrote: Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in "pledging" or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content? I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public schools. We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges. Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the near future either. Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet longer.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Anyway, speaking of music, check this out;) http://www.360synergy.com/presskit.html some weird ****, not much info.. why do I care about such a project? I have my reasons;) Not *my* kind of guitar. Most of the ones I like are made in Spain. I really like the sound, feel and look of certain Ramirez guitars, for example, or the cedar-topped Manuel Rodriguez Jr. guitars. That's like saying you don't like barberry bushes, but prefer sycamore trees instead. Two totally different concepts. \\ No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly shaped guitars. |
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... On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:50:59 -0500, HK wrote: If this is truly a "free" country, then no one, not even a child, should have to participate in a mandatory "pledge" to an inanimate object, such as a flag. They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? |
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On Jan 28, 4:34*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, HK wrote: Tim wrote: HK wrote: Yes, well, that was the point of the superintendent of schools in that unnamed North Carolina city, a point with which I agreed and my post reinforced. Children should not be forced or even coerced in "pledging" or prayer. Do you actually have the ability to read for content? I wish schools could get out entirely of any business except teaching reading, writing, math, and science, and helping kids learn how to think. It was pretty much like that in the 1950's in my public schools. We didn't waste a second on crapola like school prayer and pledges. Probqbly won't be wasting time on NEA ridden public schools in the near future either. Yeah, you'd do better in home schooling. Keeps you in the closet longer.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Anyway, speaking of music, check this out;) http://www.360synergy.com/presskit.html some weird ****, not much info.. *why do I care about such a project? I have my reasons;) ================== Your reason: *It's nothing but pictures.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mildly funny... |
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HK wrote:
We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and pledging. One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high holidays, for which everyone was thankful! Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular public school calendar? |
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HK wrote: We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and pledging. One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high holidays, for which everyone was thankful! Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular public school calendar? Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was smart enough to graduate from high school. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high holidays, for which everyone was thankful! The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge" quietly stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the morning ritual. I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in it. I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but I thought it was cool and said, "Ok". Eisboch |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and pledging. One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high holidays, for which everyone was thankful! Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular public school calendar? Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was smart enough to graduate from high school. What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife, 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the Nixon administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest son of a bitch on earth too? With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment. |
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... On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too? |
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