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On Jan 28, 8:17*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? |
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... On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? ============================= How old is your kid? |
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On Jan 28, 8:50*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? ============================= How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - middleschool.... |
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... On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? ============================= How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - middleschool.... ========================== That sort of late for a kid to NOT be able to demand accountability from authority figures who also happen to be service providers. Not surprising, though, considering that it's YOUR kid. Maybe you should tell your kid that the teacher is your employee, and the kids are **THE CUSTOMERS**. |
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... On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too? My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8 years of actual water sampling. I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge? |
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On Jan 28, 9:09*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? ============================= How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - middleschool.... ========================== That sort of late for a kid to NOT be able to demand accountability from authority figures who also happen to be service providers. Not surprising, though, considering that it's YOUR kid. Maybe you should tell your kid that the teacher is your employee, and the kids are **THE CUSTOMERS**.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I knew you were gonna' put it on me, that's why I usually don't bother addressing you, and will not bother again.... |
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On Jan 28, 9:38*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too? My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8 years of actual water sampling. I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge? you are a miserable son of a bitch.... |
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... On Jan 28, 9:09 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 8:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:00:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: They have to pledge their allegience to the cuilt religion of "environmentalism". You can't talk about patriotism or god but they will get indoctrinated with any crackpot theory that the education system embraces Where (city, state) have you personally experienced this happening in a school? I'm not doubting you. I'm just adding to the list of places where my son should avoid raising a family. So, where? Lee County Florida for one but I am sure the save the manatee club and the sierra club has influenced your school board too. It is just stupid things like recycling as a religion and PETA causes that seem to creep into the curriculum that really frost my ass. Most recently it was just simple lies about where water flows in the estuary, driven by a SMC tract that was handed out to teachers Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My childs school system is pretty fair about things but there are always exceptions. Students always have had good debate in the last few years especially since one of my childs peers father is a local elected political figure. Most of the kids are pretty informed and teachers stay out and act more as moderators. However this year they have one teacher who openly bashes Bush as stupid, Republicans as stupid and selfish, et'al', and allows pretty vigorous christian bashing, including and not limited to Mormons, given the currant political situation. My kid who is somewhat conservative and my kids friend who is Mormon are afraid to even speak in this class, knowing the teacher herself will probably be the first to lash out at them with hate and insults. This particular group of kids has been together and openly debated these issues in a civil fashion for years with each other, they all know where they all stand. This year however the christians and conservatives in this class don't get involved, just play the game, get the grade, and get out.... Is that personal enough? ============================= How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - middleschool.... ========================== That sort of late for a kid to NOT be able to demand accountability from authority figures who also happen to be service providers. Not surprising, though, considering that it's YOUR kid. Maybe you should tell your kid that the teacher is your employee, and the kids are **THE CUSTOMERS**.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I knew you were gonna' put it on me, that's why I usually don't bother addressing you, and will not bother again.... =================== You've said that before. You'll be back. Kids need to know when and how to question authority, because in most instances, the "authority" is chosen and paid by the person being governed, taught or whatever. Where do YOU think they're supposed to learn that from? A cereal box? |
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... On Jan 28, 9:38 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too? My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8 years of actual water sampling. I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge? you are a miserable son of a bitch.... ============================ The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE. It's at the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with by special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in some backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like what went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that difficult to melt those evil forces. |
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On Jan 28, 9:44*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 9:38 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those schools? That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you mean, too? My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8 years of actual water sampling. I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a backward state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap. Matter of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh have a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the Klan, church, or whoever's in charge? you are a miserable son of a bitch.... ============================ The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE. It's at the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with by special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in some backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like what went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that difficult to melt those evil forces.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life son... |
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