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BAR January 27th 08 02:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.


Create a private charity for stem cell research and fund whatever you
want to fund in the area of stem cell research. But, don't expect me to
donate.

BTW, I do keep up with stem cell research due to a CNS problem I have. I
would greatly benefit from the results of stem cell research but, I
don't want abortions performed to harvest stem cells. Too much of a
slippery slope.



BAR January 27th 08 02:55 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.

HK January 27th 08 02:59 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.



Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.





--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 27th 08 03:06 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 8:31*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
* No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research..
Work on that awhile.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Your skewed opinion is based on nothing but hatred, thus it is pretty
much invalid. You don't know why he did it, could have been several
reasons, but you just don't know, so you make it up... Besides, it is
still a fact that there is no real science that even suggests there
could be such benefits as the abortion advocates (and they are the
ones perpetrating this bull**** for their own reasons) claim. None at
all. You started this theme, I seem to know a lot more about it than
you expected, you can't even respond beyond your typical "talking
points name calling". Pretty generic for someone who has called me
simple...

[email protected] January 27th 08 03:08 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 9:59*pm, HK wrote:


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.


Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.



You are the one that suggested he did, shouldn't you dedfend your made
up accusation first??

BAR January 27th 08 03:44 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but,
they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not
the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our
society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square.
This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a
belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and
live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.




Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite
word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker
dead in their tracks?

BAR January 27th 08 03:46 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or
Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy
knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies
trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because
you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...

The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that
basis alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.



Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.


You need to put your hatred of anything non progressive or labor union
related and use your brain.

HK January 27th 08 03:53 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint,
you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because
you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...
The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.
Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.


Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?


Perhaps for 'moral and ethical' reasons?


Bush is neither.

HK January 27th 08 03:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but,
they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.




Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite
word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker
dead in their tracks?




You are not discussing what I am discussing.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

BAR January 27th 08 04:01 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
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HK wrote:
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You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a
Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?




You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?



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