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If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

That's exactly what they don't want you to do.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

That's exactly what they don't want you to do.


Yes, I know. But that is the smartest thing to do with it, and it
certainly is better than blowing it on goods made in the PRC.

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hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




I'll use mine to apply towards the balance of the recent remodeling
project. If anyone else is not planning on putting theirs to good use,
I'll help out by boosting the economy for ya. ;)

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DownTime wrote:
hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks
from the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




I'll use mine to apply towards the balance of the recent remodeling
project. If anyone else is not planning on putting theirs to good use,
I'll help out by boosting the economy for ya. ;)


Now that's a good use, assuming you used legal labor and at least some
products made in the USA!!!

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hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

Don't have any debt except for the mortgage.

(b) buy food

Pantry and refrigerator are full

(c) buy gasoline

I do that every week anyway, no excitement.

(d) buy some more goods made in China

May take a stroll through Wal-Mart and see if anything catches my eye.
The have very low prices.

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song

I'm not allowed to have fun evenings with wine, women and song. The wife
put a stop to me bringing my drunk girlfriend home after the concert.

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BAR wrote:
..

(d) buy some more goods made in China

May take a stroll through Wal-Mart and see if anything catches my eye.
The have very low prices.


See if you can see Harry while you are there. Not only does he like the
LOW prices, but the coupons make them an even better deal..

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"hk" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

That's exactly what they don't want you to do.


Yes, I know. But that is the smartest thing to do with it, and it
certainly is better than blowing it on goods made in the PRC.


If the US govt has money to throw around, I'd say either apply it to the
expense of the Iraq expedition...or give it directly to the troops in harms
way.

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Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)
That's exactly what they don't want you to do.

Yes, I know. But that is the smartest thing to do with it, and it
certainly is better than blowing it on goods made in the PRC.


If the US govt has money to throw around, I'd say either apply it to the
expense of the Iraq expedition...or give it directly to the troops in harms
way.




It would be money the treasury borrows from China.

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Im not getting one despite paying a higher % of taxes than just about
everyone. I make about 85K and live with my ex wife, the cut off is 75k.
What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people. I also fall
into the alternative min tax ever damn year.
Brad
"BAR" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

Don't have any debt except for the mortgage.

(b) buy food

Pantry and refrigerator are full

(c) buy gasoline

I do that every week anyway, no excitement.

(d) buy some more goods made in China

May take a stroll through Wal-Mart and see if anything catches my eye. The
have very low prices.

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song

I'm not allowed to have fun evenings with wine, women and song. The wife
put a stop to me bringing my drunk girlfriend home after the concert.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.

Because you are single.

Duh... :)

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hk wrote:
DownTime wrote:
hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks
from the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




I'll use mine to apply towards the balance of the recent remodeling
project. If anyone else is not planning on putting theirs to good use,
I'll help out by boosting the economy for ya. ;)


Now that's a good use, assuming you used legal labor and at least some
products made in the USA!!!


licensed and insured contractors ONLY!!!

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On Jan 25, 9:24*am, "Don White" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) *pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

That's exactly what they don't want you to do.

Yes, I know. But that is the smartest thing to do with it, and it
certainly is better than blowing it on goods made in the PRC.

If the US govt has money to throw around, I'd say either apply it to the
expense of the Iraq expedition...or give it directly to the troops in harms
way.

Wow, you are sooo PC!

Spending that Economy Booster
 

On Jan 25, 9:39*am, DownTime wrote:
hk wrote:
DownTime wrote:
hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks
from the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?

(a) *pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) *buy food

(c) *buy gasoline

(d) *buy some more goods made in China

(e) *have a fun evening with wine, women and song

I'll use mine to apply towards the balance of the recent remodeling
project. If anyone else is not planning on putting theirs to good use,
I'll help out by boosting the economy for ya. ;)

Now that's a good use, assuming you used legal labor and at least some
products made in the USA!!!

licensed and insured contractors ONLY!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think Harry means Union workers.. he could care less about legal
schmegal... or whatever.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
.

(d) buy some more goods made in China

May take a stroll through Wal-Mart and see if anything catches my eye.
The have very low prices.


See if you can see Harry while you are there. Not only does he like the
LOW prices, but the coupons make them an even better deal..

He may have gotten a job as a greeter at Wal-Mart. What would Harry look
like wearing a smock with the yellow smiley face.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.

Because you are single.

Duh... :)

Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir.

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On Jan 25, 4:52�am, hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?

(a) �pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) �buy food

(c) �buy gasoline

(d) �buy some more goods made in China

(e) �have a fun evening with wine, women and song

Have you seen the details of the HR plan?

Above $176,000 family income you get nada.

I doubt you'll have to worry about how to spend your check.

But no big deal, folks lucky enough to be in the upper middle class
don't really need a government handout.

I continue to favor a flat tax on all income, including inheritance
and capital gains. Hopefully, the rate would be in the high teens or
no higher than the low 20's. Loopholes would all but disappear.
Regulations would have to be carefully crafted to realistically define
"profit" without all the nonsense that prevails today. To help take
care of the poor, families earning less than $60,000 per year
or thereabouts would be exempt from federal income tax entirely.

That would put more money into the economy on a permanent basis.

Spending that Economy Booster
 

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.

Because you are single.

Duh... :)

Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir.

I don't do details - I only set policy.

And my policy is to tax everybody within a inch of being bankrupt.

Keeps the masses in their place. :)

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On Jan 25, 6:29�am, "Brad Darnell" wrote:
Im not getting one despite paying a higher % of taxes than just about
everyone. I make about 85K and live with my ex wife, the cut off is 75k.
What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people. I also fall
into the alternative min tax ever damn year.


No offense, but if at $85k you are paying a higher percentage of tax
than just about anybody and getting slapped with ATM every year you
need a new financial strategy- or at least a new tax advisor. That's
not a bad salary, but in today's economy it hardly positions you among
the financially elite.

If you're splitting the mortgage or rent with your ex-wife, you've
probably got $800-1k a week to spend after taxes. Giving you $600
isn't going to increase your consumer spending enough to make any
difference.
The family trying to raise two kids while holding down three full time
$18,000 per year jobs (between two people) will be able to actually
make some sort of purchase that would previously have been out of
reach.

If I wanted to get political, I'd observe that the cash is supposed to
"trickle down" in May, historically the peak of the annual gasoline
price rape. If I wanted to get political, I'd wonder whether this is
merely another scheme to transfer more public money to private
companies; something that has been out of hand now for a good many
years.

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 25, 9:24 am, "Don White" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

That's exactly what they don't want you to do.

Yes, I know. But that is the smartest thing to do with it, and it
certainly is better than blowing it on goods made in the PRC.

If the US govt has money to throw around, I'd say either apply it to the
expense of the Iraq expedition...or give it directly to the troops in
harms
way.

Wow, you are sooo PC!

I haven't heard the details of how much this would mean to each taxpayer....
but I'm sure the majority of posters here could easily 'get by' without it.
We have Bert bragging about how much he makes... do you think the govt
should borrow to give him a nice litle Valentine gift?
Me, on the other hand, as an underpriviledged Maritime pensioner could use
any and all gifts from big brother.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.

Because you are single.

Duh... :)

Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir.

I don't do details - I only set policy.

And my policy is to tax everybody within a inch of being bankrupt.

Keeps the masses in their place. :)


You'd make a damn fine Canadian politician if you ever tire of the
foolishness down there.

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"hk" wrote in message
...
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song


Since I have no debt (if you don't count property taxes), I'll take E, and
maybe a little B for my boat.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.
Because you are single.

Duh... :)
Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir.

I don't do details - I only set policy.

And my policy is to tax everybody within a inch of being bankrupt.

Keeps the masses in their place. :)

Sorry, I will go back into my hovel and eat some dirt.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 25, 4:52�am, hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?

(a) �pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) �buy food

(c) �buy gasoline

(d) �buy some more goods made in China

(e) �have a fun evening with wine, women and song

Have you seen the details of the HR plan?

Above $176,000 family income you get nada.

I doubt you'll have to worry about how to spend your check.

But no big deal, folks lucky enough to be in the upper middle class
don't really need a government handout.

I continue to favor a flat tax on all income, including inheritance
and capital gains. Hopefully, the rate would be in the high teens or
no higher than the low 20's. Loopholes would all but disappear.
Regulations would have to be carefully crafted to realistically define
"profit" without all the nonsense that prevails today. To help take
care of the poor, families earning less than $60,000 per year
or thereabouts would be exempt from federal income tax entirely.

That would put more money into the economy on a permanent basis.

I'll go with a 15% flat tax on income, Fed, State and Local can split it
up anyway they want. All other taxes will go away.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




New computer.
--
Mackerel Snapper

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BAR wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
.

(d) buy some more goods made in China

May take a stroll through Wal-Mart and see if anything catches my
eye. The have very low prices.


See if you can see Harry while you are there. Not only does he like
the LOW prices, but the coupons make them an even better deal..

He may have gotten a job as a greeter at Wal-Mart. What would Harry look
like wearing a smock with the yellow smiley face.

Fat and round

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Kippered wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




New computer.
--
Mackerel Snapper

Whatever you do, don't get Vista! ;)

Which one are u looking at.

You many want to check out Mac when you consider the software they
include as standard, it is competitive with Windows

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:14:29 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Kippered wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




New computer.
--
Mackerel Snapper

Whatever you do, don't get Vista! ;)

Which one are u looking at.

You many want to check out Mac when you consider the software they
include as standard, it is competitive with Windows

I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Of course, there will be a 'couple' who will talk about how stupid I am.
But, that's OK! It'll be good for my Karma.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:14:29 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

Kippered wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:52:19 -0500, hk wrote:

If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?


(a) pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) buy food

(c) buy gasoline

(d) buy some more goods made in China

(e) have a fun evening with wine, women and song




New computer.
--
Mackerel Snapper

Whatever you do, don't get Vista! ;)

Which one are u looking at.

You many want to check out Mac when you consider the software they
include as standard, it is competitive with Windows

PS. It will be an XP machine. I had a lot of experience with Macs in the
classroom. I'm sure they're different machines now, but I'll stick with the
PC. I can go inside and mess with them!
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:



I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:55:27 -0500, "John" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Jan 25, 4:52?am, hk wrote:
If you're going to get one of those spiffy economy boosting checks from
the feds, what will you do with the proceeds?

(a) ?pay off consumer debt (the smart thing to do)

(b) ?buy food

(c) ?buy gasoline

(d) ?buy some more goods made in China

(e) ?have a fun evening with wine, women and song

Have you seen the details of the HR plan?

Above $176,000 family income you get nada.

Throwing gov checks at people probably won't help.
The only ideas I heard and though might work, mostly from Huckabee,
Edwards and maybe Romney, was to concentrate stimulus money on local
infrastructure repair and small businesses that create jobs here.
Consumer check money is mostly going overseas and increasing trade
deficits.
I'll add, "What the hell do I know?" as a disinvitation to argument.

--Vic

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

That's a piece of advice I'd thought of. The case this Dell used is a pain
in the butt to get into or work with. You're right, the case will be the
first choice. I was very happy with the old 'box' cases held together with
a few screws, or thumbscrews for rapid entry. I don't need the fancy thinks
they've got now that look like something out of Star Trek.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever. There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

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"Kippered" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever.
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? It's hard to believe
that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.

Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?

Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:08:07 -0500, Kippered
wrote:

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.

Don't know hardly anything about USB, as I'm not using it except for
mice and keyboards, and XP had the drivers.

--Vic

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Kippered" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever.
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? It's hard to
believe that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.

Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?

Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.

Are you using any USB devices that work properly?

Spending that Economy Booster
 

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:12:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Kippered" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever.
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? It's hard to believe
that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.

Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?

Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.


Different brands. I'm thinking that maybe the driver files in XP may be
bad. They're USB2.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Spending that Economy Booster
 

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:04:56 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...

"Kippered" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:


I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever.
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of the
experts will offer it.

Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.

--Vic

Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.

Is there more to it?

Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations.
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.

--Vic

Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs. When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none. I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find drivers
there either.

Any ideas?

Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? It's hard to
believe that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.

Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?

Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.

Are you using any USB devices that work properly?


That's what's weird. The keyboard, mouse, external HD, Scandisk camera card
reader, all work well. Only the hubs don't work.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H