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"hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks. Kill 'em all!!! Whoops - wrong thread again. Sorry. :) |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! How about those who are trying to shove their non religious beliiefs on to society? |
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JG2U wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:05:04 -0500, hk wrote: JG2U wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:13:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:56 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell" wrote: What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people. Because you are single. Duh... :) Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir. I don't do details - I only set policy. And my policy is to tax everybody within a inch of being bankrupt. Keeps the masses in their place. :) What ticks me off is that they are giving people with children extra money for each kid! People with kids are already using more resources than people without, they tax them at a lower rate (dependents), and now they are giving them extra money for making a CHOICE! If you can't afford kids, don't have them. And don't make me subsidize stupid, poor people that do anyway. snerk There's scum, and then there is conservatrash scum. It's not political. It's called personal responsibility. Look into it. One of the many attributes that distinguishes us is that I care about people who are having a hard time making it in this world, and you don't. I believe the words on the Statue of Liberty, and you don't. I believe I am my brother's keeper, and you don't. When I was a very small child, my mother read this poem to me: Abou ben Adam Abou ben Adam (may his tribe increase!) awoke one night from a deep dream of peace, And saw, within the moonlight of his room, Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom, an angel, writing in a book of of gold. Exceeding peace had made Ben Adam bold, And to the Prescence in the room he said: "What writest thou?" The vision raised its head, And, with a look made of all sweet accord, Answered, "The names of those who love the Lord." "And is mine one?"said Abou, "Nay, not so," Replied the angel. Abou spoke more low, But cheerily still, and said, "I pray thee, then, Write me as one who loves his fellow men." The angel wrote, and vanished. The next night It came again, with a great awakening light, And showed the names whom love of God had blest, And lo! Ben adam's name led all the rest. - Leigh Hunt I took that poem to heart. I care about my fellow man, and I do what I can to help those who need help. You care only about yourself. You are the dictionary definition of conservatrash. Here is an example from yesterday. I was downtown DC and happened to see a Home Depot. I stopped in because I needed some hardware bits and pieces for a project. It was very cold outside. The parking lot was full of men looking for work, a shape up, as it were. Most of them were Latinos. These guys, mostly illegals, I am sure, will do about honest in the way of work to make enough to feed themselves and their families. It's been cold for quite a while, and you could tell most of these guys had not worked for a while. I had some cash on me and after talking to a few of the guys, I simply handed what cash I had to four guys who said they had had no work in two weeks. I'm sure you would have walked right by them and muttered something derogatory. I think my name will be on the list. But you...they'll bury you face down...because that is the way you are going. Sure you did, Harry. Another lie. |
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BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. That doesn't "concern" me. I look the other way and move on. You can't do the same? |
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Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Bet THAT brings in a huge paycheck. Did you run it by your wife? |
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On Jan 26, 6:30*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I get it... * No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat, and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you were not willing to listen? Oi! -- C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question... |
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On Jan 26, 7:56*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I get it... * No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat, and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you were not willing to listen? Oi! -- C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question... We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research. Work on that awhile. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and shortsighted... |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks. Kill 'em all!!! Whoops - wrong thread again. Sorry. :) I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic liberal and classic conservative philosophies. The former seems to think they are responsible for all. The latter focuses on individual responsibility. Eisboch |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:29:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks. Kill 'em all!!! Whoops - wrong thread again. Sorry. :) I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic liberal and classic conservative philosophies. The former seems to think they are responsible for all. The latter focuses on individual responsibility. I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government. |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:17:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:29:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:i7OdnW4p4OXMWwbanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast. com... Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves? Eisboch Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society. Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks. Kill 'em all!!! Whoops - wrong thread again. Sorry. :) I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic liberal and classic conservative philosophies. The former seems to think they are responsible for all. The latter focuses on individual responsibility. I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government. I meant to say government for they. ~~ sheesh ~~ It's past my nap time. :) |
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BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic liberal and classic conservative philosophies. The former seems to think they are responsible for all. The latter focuses on individual responsibility. I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government. I meant to say government for they. ~~ sheesh ~~ It's past my nap time. :) It's ok. We make certain exceptions for the elderly. Eisboch |
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hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research. Work on that awhile. Create a private charity for stem cell research and fund whatever you want to fund in the area of stem cell research. But, don't expect me to donate. BTW, I do keep up with stem cell research due to a CNS problem I have. I would greatly benefit from the results of stem cell research but, I don't want abortions performed to harvest stem cells. Too much of a slippery slope. |
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On Jan 26, 8:31*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote: wrote: On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I get it... * No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat, and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you were not willing to listen? Oi! -- C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question... We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.. Work on that awhile. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and shortsighted... The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached. Your skewed opinion is based on nothing but hatred, thus it is pretty much invalid. You don't know why he did it, could have been several reasons, but you just don't know, so you make it up... Besides, it is still a fact that there is no real science that even suggests there could be such benefits as the abortion advocates (and they are the ones perpetrating this bull**** for their own reasons) claim. None at all. You started this theme, I seem to know a lot more about it than you expected, you can't even respond beyond your typical "talking points name calling". Pretty generic for someone who has called me simple... |
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On Jan 26, 9:59*pm, HK wrote:
The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached. Just about everyone disagrees with you on that. Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons? If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject. You are the one that suggested he did, shouldn't you dedfend your made up accusation first?? |
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BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? |
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HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? |
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On Jan 26, 11:01*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He talks of religeon being shoved down his throat but only gives opinions and talking points as examples. He still has not answered the origional question of who has shoved it down his throat, because nobody has.. |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:49:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic liberal and classic conservative philosophies. The former seems to think they are responsible for all. The latter focuses on individual responsibility. I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government. I meant to say government for they. ~~ sheesh ~~ It's past my nap time. :) It's ok. We make certain exceptions for the elderly. As you damn well should dang gummit. Why back in my day... |
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? I've explained it three times, in simple language. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? I've explained it three times, in simple language. You haven't explained anything. You have alluded too, made veiled references, and talked around the reasons but, you have not stated what religious organization has tried to shove religion down your throat. Where is the substance of your claim. |
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On Jan 27, 7:18*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? I've explained it three times, in simple language. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your throat, it is a hollow lie... |
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On Jan 27, 11:30*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? I've explained it three times, in simple language. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your throat, it is a hollow lie... You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just for me, I give you the time of day:) Who else has shoved religeon down your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another.. |
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On Jan 27, 11:38*am, wrote:
On Jan 27, 11:30*am, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: BAR wrote: hk wrote: JG2U wrote: You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental purposes of the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an outreach into the local community to provide assistance to those that need it, and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national and world-wide level. I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself in my life. Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way. You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the door to door church people. Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your door with the intent on converting you to his religion? Neither of those events concern me. Ok, what specific events concern you? There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can figure out one or two of them. Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category? Let's see if you have any smarts... I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera. Got it now? I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not the way you expect or want then they are wrong. It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it. Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what happens in our society. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh. I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh. Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless You and asking you if your have been saved? BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away. Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker dead in their tracks? You are not discussing what I am discussing. What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for some reason you won't name them specifically. Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of and why? I've explained it three times, in simple language. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your throat, it is a hollow lie... You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just for me, I give you the time of day:) Who else has shoved religeon down your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And while you are at it, how do you feel about teachers being paid to intimidate kids in middleschool? My kid is in a class where the teacher constantly calls President Bush names, says republicans are stupid, and allows merciless attacks from the students toward anybody Mormon. My kid and a friend who is a Mormon in the class and is scared to death to say anything in the class.. this is way more dangerous than a moment of silence. This teacher may soon be on the news as a couple of the kids are sick of it and may just take some cell phone footage....;) |
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