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HK January 26th 08 11:30 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...

No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?




Oi!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Eisboch January 26th 08 11:41 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.



May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs
on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch



HK January 26th 08 11:46 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.



May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their beliefs
on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch


Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those
who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Eisboch January 26th 08 11:58 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.



May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch

Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.


Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing January 27th 08 12:24 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.


May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch

Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.


Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks.


Kill 'em all!!!

Whoops - wrong thread again.

Sorry. :)

CalifBill January 27th 08 12:33 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.



May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch

Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


How about those who are trying to shove their non religious beliiefs on to
society?



DK January 27th 08 12:44 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:05:04 -0500, hk wrote:

JG2U wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:13:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:51:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:29:53 -0600, "Brad Darnell"
wrote:

What a joke why does the government seem to hate single people.
Because you are single.

Duh... :)
Explain the marriage penalty Mr. Overlord sir.
I don't do details - I only set policy.

And my policy is to tax everybody within a inch of being bankrupt.

Keeps the masses in their place. :)
What ticks me off is that they are giving people with children extra
money for each kid! People with kids are already using more resources
than people without, they tax them at a lower rate (dependents), and
now they are giving them extra money for making a CHOICE! If you
can't afford kids, don't have them. And don't make me subsidize
stupid, poor people that do anyway.

snerk There's scum, and then there is conservatrash scum.


It's not political. It's called personal responsibility. Look into
it.



One of the many attributes that distinguishes us is that I care about
people who are having a hard time making it in this world, and you
don't. I believe the words on the Statue of Liberty, and you don't. I
believe I am my brother's keeper, and you don't.

When I was a very small child, my mother read this poem to me:

Abou ben Adam



Abou ben Adam (may his tribe increase!)

awoke one night from a deep dream of peace,

And saw, within the moonlight of his room,

Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom,

an angel, writing in a book of of gold.

Exceeding peace had made Ben Adam bold,

And to the Prescence in the room he said:

"What writest thou?" The vision raised its head,

And, with a look made of all sweet accord,

Answered, "The names of those who love the Lord."

"And is mine one?"said Abou, "Nay, not so,"

Replied the angel. Abou spoke more low,

But cheerily still, and said, "I pray thee, then,

Write me as one who loves his fellow men."

The angel wrote, and vanished. The next night

It came again, with a great awakening light,

And showed the names whom love of God had blest,

And lo! Ben adam's name led all the rest.


- Leigh Hunt


I took that poem to heart. I care about my fellow man, and I do what I
can to help those who need help.

You care only about yourself.

You are the dictionary definition of conservatrash.



Here is an example from yesterday. I was downtown DC and happened to see
a Home Depot. I stopped in because I needed some hardware bits and
pieces for a project. It was very cold outside. The parking lot was full
of men looking for work, a shape up, as it were. Most of them were
Latinos. These guys, mostly illegals, I am sure, will do about honest in
the way of work to make enough to feed themselves and their families.
It's been cold for quite a while, and you could tell most of these guys
had not worked for a while. I had some cash on me and after talking to a
few of the guys, I simply handed what cash I had to four guys who said
they had had no work in two weeks.

I'm sure you would have walked right by them and muttered something
derogatory.


I think my name will be on the list.

But you...they'll bury you face down...because that is the way you are
going.




Sure you did, Harry. Another lie.

DK January 27th 08 12:48 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:
On Jan 25, 8:44 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 25, 3:58 pm, Kippered wrote:





On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:01:23 -0500, BAR wrote:
Kippered wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:12:51 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Kippered" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:09:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:28 -0500, Kippered
wrote:
I wouldn't go with a brand name like Dell, Gateway, or whatever..
There's a
computer shop down the road that will build them to order. I'll
pay
the
extra hundred or two for them to do the work. I'll have to pick
out
the
motherboard, etc, etc, etc. I'll ask for advice here, and some of
the
experts will offer it.
Yeah. And case advice too. You need good case advice.
--Vic
Vic,
I thought the cases were fairly standard, and you just ordered them
based upon what motherboard you wanted to use and how many bays you
wanted to use.
Is there more to it?
Depends on your needs. John said something about going inside and
messing with them. If you're going to do that a lot (I've built
about
10 PC's) you want a case that makes it easy. If you're not, you
won't care, except you still want a quality power supply, the power
supply often being bundled with the case.
I prefer big honking cases that allow real easy parts replacements,
substitutions.
Here's the one for this computer, and my others are big variations..
I have plenty of work space.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811165008R
Very easy to work with - massive and well thought.
I did a newegg review, but it looks like they discontinued the case
and the link is an "open box"
Think I paid $120 unpowered.
--Vic
Vic, here's a question for you. I've tried two different USB hubs.
When I
plug them in, Windows starts looking for drivers and can find none.
I've
tried going back to the XP reinstall disk, but Windows can't find
drivers
there either.
Any ideas?
Anyone can jump on this, BTW.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****
John H
The two hubs you tried are they the same brand/model? It's hard to
believe
that the generic USB drivers included with XP will not work.
Are the hubs USB 1 or USB 2?
Try the hub manufacturer's web site for driver information.
Different brands. I'm thinking that maybe the driver files in XP may be
bad. They're USB2.
Maybe an upgrade to VISTA is needed :)
WOW! There's an idea!
Let's see..;.new card, $10.99.
Vista...$143.00
Vista frustration...Priceless.
I like the card idea better.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Soooo, who is actually having problems with Vista here. We have it all
over the place here on dual boot systems, and friends are running it,
no one has jumped out a window yet (pardon the pun;). Anyway, anyone
here "running" vista actually had or having any problems cause my
expereince for basic home business and home computing has been fine?
Sorry if I did not read the bash threads, but any or you having
problems that you can report?

=========

Scott, it was just another Reggie/John troll to try to stir up an argument.

They never used it. They believe everything they read from folks having
problems with it because either they upgraded to it and their computer is
not designed to run it OR they are too stupid to figure out how to run it.

The computers in our house are running WinXP and I will not upgrade to VISTA
because they were not built to run that OS.

My son's laptop, however, was built to run VISTA and it runs flawlessly for
him.

Let the trolls go..............they are just trying to start an
argument........following Booger's MO.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Jim, if you are trying to be the socially responsible one here and NOT
trying to pick fights, why the constant name calling?


YOU are accusing someone of name-calling, "**** boy"?

YOU are the anonymous bitch, Sally. Grow a pair and people can address
you by your name. If that's a problem for you then you really do have
something to hide from.

DK January 27th 08 12:51 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a national
and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove itself
in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up at
the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they first
have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually the say
not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.


Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.


That doesn't "concern" me. I look the other way and move on. You can't
do the same?

DK January 27th 08 12:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you
can figure out one or two of them.



May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch

Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those
who are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.


Bet THAT brings in a huge paycheck. Did you run it by your wife?

[email protected] January 27th 08 12:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 6:30*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
* No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?


Oi!

--


C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...

HK January 27th 08 12:56 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?

Oi!

--


C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...



We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 27th 08 01:19 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 7:56*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
* No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!


--


C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...


We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...

Eisboch January 27th 08 01:29 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.


May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch
Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those
who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.


Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks.


Kill 'em all!!!

Whoops - wrong thread again.

Sorry. :)



I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic
liberal and classic conservative philosophies.

The former seems to think they are responsible for all.
The latter focuses on individual responsibility.

Eisboch




HK January 27th 08 01:31 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...

We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.




--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Short Wave Sportfishing January 27th 08 02:17 AM

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:29:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.


May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch
Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those
who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.

Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks.


Kill 'em all!!!

Whoops - wrong thread again.

Sorry. :)


I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic
liberal and classic conservative philosophies.

The former seems to think they are responsible for all.
The latter focuses on individual responsibility.


I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government.

Short Wave Sportfishing January 27th 08 02:46 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:17:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:29:02 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:58:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
news:i7OdnW4p4OXMWwbanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast. com...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.


May I suggest that you focus on those that are trying to force their
beliefs on you and let society decide for themselves?

Eisboch
Make all the suggestions you like. I will work, however, against those
who
are in the business of shoveling their religious beliefs onto society.

Thank you for your concern, but I'd rather do it myself, thanks.

Kill 'em all!!!

Whoops - wrong thread again.

Sorry. :)


I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between classic
liberal and classic conservative philosophies.

The former seems to think they are responsible for all.
The latter focuses on individual responsibility.


I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government.


I meant to say government for they.

~~ sheesh ~~

It's past my nap time. :)

BAR January 27th 08 02:48 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you
can figure out one or two of them.


Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?



Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not
the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our
society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This
country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief
in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.

Eisboch January 27th 08 02:49 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between
classic
liberal and classic conservative philosophies.

The former seems to think they are responsible for all.
The latter focuses on individual responsibility.


I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government.


I meant to say government for they.

~~ sheesh ~~

It's past my nap time. :)



It's ok. We make certain exceptions for the elderly.

Eisboch



HK January 27th 08 02:51 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint,
you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?



Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not
the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our
society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square. This
country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a belief
in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.




Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.









--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

BAR January 27th 08 02:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.


Create a private charity for stem cell research and fund whatever you
want to fund in the area of stem cell research. But, don't expect me to
donate.

BTW, I do keep up with stem cell research due to a CNS problem I have. I
would greatly benefit from the results of stem cell research but, I
don't want abortions performed to harvest stem cells. Too much of a
slippery slope.



BAR January 27th 08 02:55 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.

HK January 27th 08 02:59 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.



Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.





--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 27th 08 03:06 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 8:31*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic. Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when "life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic... I
get it...
* No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people of
a *certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research..
Work on that awhile.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Your skewed opinion is based on nothing but hatred, thus it is pretty
much invalid. You don't know why he did it, could have been several
reasons, but you just don't know, so you make it up... Besides, it is
still a fact that there is no real science that even suggests there
could be such benefits as the abortion advocates (and they are the
ones perpetrating this bull**** for their own reasons) claim. None at
all. You started this theme, I seem to know a lot more about it than
you expected, you can't even respond beyond your typical "talking
points name calling". Pretty generic for someone who has called me
simple...

[email protected] January 27th 08 03:08 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 9:59*pm, HK wrote:


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.


Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.



You are the one that suggested he did, shouldn't you dedfend your made
up accusation first??

BAR January 27th 08 03:44 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but,
they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are not
the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of our
society disagrees with your view of religion in the public square.
This country was founded and formed by those who publicly professed a
belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to accept it and
live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.




Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite
word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker
dead in their tracks?

BAR January 27th 08 03:46 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to
those that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or
Mormons show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy
knocking on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies
trying to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because
you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...

The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that
basis alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.


Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.



Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?

If not, try to respond to the point instead of changing the subject.


You need to put your hatred of anything non progressive or labor union
related and use your brain.

HK January 27th 08 03:53 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to
provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking
on your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying
to force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint,
you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or
logic... I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given,
people of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your
throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because
you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell
research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...
The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.
Just about everyone disagrees with you on that.


Are you saying that he didn't do what he did for religious reasons?


Perhaps for 'moral and ethical' reasons?


Bush is neither.

HK January 27th 08 03:54 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but,
they first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.




Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a erudite
word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops the asker
dead in their tracks?




You are not discussing what I am discussing.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

BAR January 27th 08 04:01 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a
Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?




You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?


[email protected] January 27th 08 04:41 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 26, 11:01*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:


You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.


I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.


Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons show
up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch
but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become a
Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here about
the door to door church people.


Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.


Ok, what specific events concern you?


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.


Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...


I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a
Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian nut cases determining what is taught in public schools,
when "life" begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of
stem cell research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et
cetera.


Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.


It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.


Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.


Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God Bless
You and asking you if your have been saved?


BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.


Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?


You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He talks of religeon being shoved down his throat but only gives
opinions and talking points as examples. He still has not answered the
origional question of who has shoved it down his throat, because
nobody has..

CalifBill January 27th 08 06:10 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:31 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:16 pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an
outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that
need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up
at the door. I tell them I will listen to their pitch but,
they
first have to listen to my pitch to become a Catholic.
Usually
the say not thank you and get on their way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the
door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your
door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force
their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that hint,
you can
figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of
worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am only
concerned when those religions or believers try to shove their
beliefs
onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian nation, a Jewish
nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want a bunch of
Christian
nut cases determining what is taught in public schools, when
"life"
begins, whether we should have abortions, what sort of stem cell
research is ok, what stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, it is more about political agenda than compassion or logic...
I
get it...
No, you don't get it, either. In the examples I have given, people
of
a certain belief are trying to shove their sect's religious
doctrine on
others. It has nothing to do with compassion and it certainly has
nothing to do with logic.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So tell us well heeled son, who has shoved religeon down your throat,
and what did it take to stop them? I mean, Vonage and Free Credit
Report.com try to give me a message every day, I don't mind, I just
don't pay attention. Have you ever been refused anything because you
were not willing to listen?
Oi!
--
C'mon Harry, I treat you honestly, answer my question...
We're not discussing the same thing here. The fundamentalist retardos
have limited the federal government's involvement in stem cell research.
Work on that awhile.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I did some research a while back with my kid (the one in DC working
for the lib lobby group) and she concluded as did I that there has
been many more successful projects from other forms of stem cells and
none from the embrionic type.. Aside from a desire to spend a lot of
money on projects that have resulted in zero progress is just not
practical to a lot of secularists like her either... Besides, I still
contend that we are not a secular society, that is the change that
your party wants. I don't fault you, just think you are wrong and
shortsighted...


The point I am making is that President Idiot restricted federal
involvement in stem cell research for religious reasons. On that basis
alone, the stupid SOB should have been impeached.




--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!



The reason he did it may be wrong, but keeping the government out of stem
cell research is probably a good thing. More progress, and better research
from private groups. Most of the government research goes 95% and then the
private Pharm companies go the last 5% and make the 100% money.



Short Wave Sportfishing January 27th 08 10:47 AM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:49:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .

I was thinking maybe we were getting to the core difference between
classic
liberal and classic conservative philosophies.

The former seems to think they are responsible for all.
The latter focuses on individual responsibility.

I would agree with that, only I would substitute they for government.


I meant to say government for they.

~~ sheesh ~~

It's past my nap time. :)


It's ok. We make certain exceptions for the elderly.


As you damn well should dang gummit.

Why back in my day...

HK January 27th 08 12:18 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.

Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?




You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?




I've explained it three times, in simple language.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

BAR January 27th 08 01:35 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:

You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their
homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try
to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a
Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I
don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is
taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should
have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what
stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.

Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back
with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?



You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid
of and why?




I've explained it three times, in simple language.


You haven't explained anything. You have alluded too, made veiled
references, and talked around the reasons but, you have not stated what
religious organization has tried to shove religion down your throat.

Where is the substance of your claim.


[email protected] January 27th 08 04:20 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 27, 7:18*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:


You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.


I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.


Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.


Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.


Ok, what specific events concern you?


There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.


Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...


I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.


Got it now?


I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.


It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.


Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.


Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.


Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?


BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.


Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?


You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.


Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?


I've explained it three times, in simple language.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down
your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller
Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your
throat, it is a hollow lie...

HK January 27th 08 04:30 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:
On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?
I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.
It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.
Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.
Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?
BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.
Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?
You are not discussing what I am discussing.
What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.
Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?

I've explained it three times, in simple language.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down
your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller
Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your
throat, it is a hollow lie...



You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding
abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

[email protected] January 27th 08 04:38 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 27, 11:30*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?
I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.
It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.
Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.
Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?
BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.
Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?
You are not discussing what I am discussing.
What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.
Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?
I've explained it three times, in simple language.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down
your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller
Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your
throat, it is a hollow lie...


You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding
abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day:) Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] January 27th 08 04:40 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
wrote:

George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day:) Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..



Actually most laws are based upon principles and ethics, and what one
believes if good for society and bad for society. Harry is just upset
when someone disagrees with what he believes is good and bad for society.



[email protected] January 27th 08 04:44 PM

Spending that Economy Booster
 
On Jan 27, 11:38*am, wrote:
On Jan 27, 11:30*am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?
I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.
It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.
Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.
Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?
BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.
Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?
You are not discussing what I am discussing.
What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.
Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?
I've explained it three times, in simple language.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down
your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller
Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your
throat, it is a hollow lie...


You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding
abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem.


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day:) Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And while you are at it, how do you feel about teachers being paid to
intimidate kids in middleschool? My kid is in a class where the
teacher constantly calls President Bush names, says republicans are
stupid, and allows merciless attacks from the students toward anybody
Mormon. My kid and a friend who is a Mormon in the class and is
scared to death to say anything in the class.. this is way more
dangerous than a moment of silence. This teacher may soon be on the
news as a couple of the kids are sick of it and may just take some
cell phone footage....;)


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