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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:15:40 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 18, 12:04*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers, but if so I
imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them.

Why not - I do. *:)

No you don't...

Shut up. :)

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Red Herring wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:33:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:57:39 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.
Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.
Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.
Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.
http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm
Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun.
And tells me they call them rockfish too.
Are they good eating?
They are great eating and not an easy to catch.

They, rockfish, like eating crabs thus their trek into the Chesapeake
Bay on their way north. The Chesapeake Bay is a good place for them to
fatten up for the Winter and Summer.
I'm jealous of you guys. When I get by the water and start catching
fish, I'll be asking for recipes.

--Vic

Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple!

Fillet it, season it (blackening spices) and fry it.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:36:33 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.
Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.
Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.
Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.
http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm
Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun.
And tells me they call them rockfish too.

Morons who fish the Chesapeake call them rockfish and the lefties on
the West coast do the same. :)

Are they good eating?

Very good - similar to other white fish flesh taken from the ocean
like flounder, haddock, pollock, etc.

They've been called rockfish for as long as I can remember. I spent much
of my youth at my uncle's on the Maryland side of the lower Potomac.
We'd go rockfish'n all of the time. Jigging/drifting in the fall and
trolling in the spring.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:57:39 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.
Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.
Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.
Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.
http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm
Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun.
And tells me they call them rockfish too.
Are they good eating?
They are great eating and not an easy to catch.

They, rockfish, like eating crabs thus their trek into the Chesapeake
Bay on their way north. The Chesapeake Bay is a good place for them to
fatten up for the Winter and Summer.

I'm jealous of you guys. When I get by the water and start catching
fish, I'll be asking for recipes.

--Vic



They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For
reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New
England salt waters.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.
Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.
Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.
Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.
http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm

Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun.
And tells me they call them rockfish too.
Are they good eating?

--Vic


They're ok to catch, but not real fighters, especially around Chesapeake
Bay, where most of the fishermen I see use heavy tackle. If you are in
it to catch fighters, you want bluefish or crevalle jacks. A blue or
jack one fourth the size of a rockfish will put up a tremendous fight.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:28:43 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:



I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.

Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.

They are a white bass/striper hybrid and generally grow up to double
the size of a good crappie - generally in the 1/2 to 3/4 pound range.
Very durable fish and when younger, prolific breeders which makes them
also a feed stock for other types of game fish.

Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.

Those are salt water transplants and are genetically identical to salt
water stripers. Depending on the size of the impoundment, they can
get as big as salt water stripers given proper forage and cool water.

Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.

Well, you aren't now. :)

biggest striper ever out here was caught in San Luis Reservoir. Fresh water
fed from the Sacramento Delta. Gets lots of stripers pumped down the
aquaduct to San Luis and other lakes all the way to Los Angeles. Was 55+
pounds from what I remember. The stripers spawn in fresh water.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 19, 12:05 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 5:21 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers,
but if so I
imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them.
Why not - I do. :)
Now, I can see paying to watch you fish...just for the
entertainment
value... :}
No, if it's entertainment you want, come watch me fish. It's like, I
know there is something down there in the water, but I still have
not
really figured out what it is.. After all, once in a while when I do
catch one it's not in the water anymore, it's all very confusing..
;)
Well, if you ever get your butt down here, let me know, and we'll go
out
and find some flounder or other good eating fish. It's only the
plonkers
who chase after stripers, or, as they usually spell it, "strippers."

Another example of *if Harry doesn't do it, own it, or like it, no one
else should*. Millions of striper fisherman in the U.S., but they are
all idiots because Harry doesn't striper fish.......

I am wondering why Harry thinks only Plonkers (whatever that is)likes to
fish for stripers? They seem to have everything one could want in a
fish, they taste good and fight like hell. They also can get very
large.- Hide quoted text -

I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.

I'll say this for freshwater stripers - they are a different sort of
striper. When I was fishing Lakes Moultrie, Marion and Murray this
summer, I was surprised at the size of the fish and their behavior.
Even the lighter schoolies put up a decent fight and on a medium 8
foot fly rod - whoo hoo!!

They have an interesting behavior that was new to me. I was watching
the fish finder and ran into a rather broad school of blue back
herring. I sat on top of the school and just kind of watched it
drift. After a few minutes you could see fish markers coming in from
the sides and the school start to ball up - eventually starting to
rise from around 100'.

Next thing you know, the herring are on the surface and the stripers
were busting them from below.

Never seen that before - stripers, at least salt water stripers, are
lazy and generally ambush predators.


Maybe on the Wrong coast they are lazy. But out here they will heard the
anchovies into the beach and go on a feeding frenzy. While at San
Francisco State University, I spend many an afternoon a few blocks west
fishing the beaches for stripers. You waited until you saw the birds going
crazy and raced down the beach to start throwing jigs for the stripers.
Lots of times they would be at your feet.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:46:36 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 18, 5:21 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers,
but if so I
imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them.
Why not - I do. :)
Now, I can see paying to watch you fish...just for the entertainment
value... :}

No, if it's entertainment you want, come watch me fish. It's like, I
know there is something down there in the water, but I still have not
really figured out what it is.. After all, once in a while when I do
catch one it's not in the water anymore, it's all very confusing.. ;)

Well, if you ever get your butt down here, let me know, and we'll go out
and find some flounder or other good eating fish. It's only the plonkers
who chase after stripers, or, as they usually spell it, "strippers."

Another example of *if Harry doesn't do it, own it, or like it, no one
else should*. Millions of striper fisherman in the U.S., but they are
all idiots because Harry doesn't striper fish.......

I'm not much of a striper fan myself. They are a good eating fish and
when they have some heft, can be a ton of fun on light tackle, but
your average striper, from a boat, isn't a real challenge.

Now from the surf - that's a whole different story. It's a challenge
to work a striper from the surf or from rocks - that can be a real
blast and challenging.

I have three 50 lbers to my credit - 51, 54 and 58. All were from the
surf at Watch Hill and Napatree Beach in Westerly, RI on an eleven
foot Ugly Stick rod, Van Staal reel and 20 lb test using a dodger lure
of my own design. Can't beat that experience.

Anything above 20 lbs is a good fish and will give you a decent turn
of the reel. Below that - eh.

We get a lot of the 20-28" stripers here. They put on a good fight, but
most of us use light tackle. Tossing HairRaisers on 7-12# test line. Or 8
weight fly rods and Clousers.

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On Jan 19, 11:18*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nvp4p3dmccl2qr0i45cj9su7mv3mlejq4h@4ax .com...





On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:46:36 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 18, 5:21 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers,
but if so I
imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them.
Why not - I do. :)
Now, I can see paying to watch you fish...just for the entertainment
value... :}

No, if it's entertainment you want, come watch me fish. It's like, I
know there is something down there in the water, but I still have not
really figured out what it is.. After all, once in a while when I do
catch one it's not in the water anymore, it's all very confusing.. ;)

Well, if you ever get your butt down here, let me know, and we'll go out
and find some flounder or other good eating fish. It's only the plonkers
who chase after stripers, or, as they usually spell it, "strippers."

Another example of *if Harry doesn't do it, own it, or like it, no one
else should*. Millions of striper fisherman in the U.S., but they are
all idiots because Harry doesn't striper fish.......

I'm not much of a striper fan myself. *They are a good eating fish and
when they have some heft, can be a ton of fun on light tackle, but
your average striper, from a boat, isn't a real challenge.

Now from the surf - that's a whole different story. *It's a challenge
to work a striper from the surf or from rocks - that can be a real
blast and challenging.

I have three 50 lbers to my credit - 51, 54 and 58. *All were from the
surf at Watch Hill and Napatree Beach in Westerly, RI on an eleven
foot Ugly Stick rod, Van Staal reel and 20 lb test using a dodger lure
of my own design. *Can't beat that experience.

Anything above 20 lbs is a good fish and will give you a decent turn
of the reel. *Below that - eh.

We get a lot of the 20-28" stripers here. *They put on a good fight, but
most of us use light tackle. *Tossing HairRaisers on 7-12# test line. *Or 8
weight fly rods and Clousers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They do tend to come in a little lazy sometimes out here off the CT
shoreline...

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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:15:32 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 19, 12:05 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 5:21 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 18, 1:02 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:
I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers,
but if so I
imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them.
Why not - I do. :)
Now, I can see paying to watch you fish...just for the
entertainment
value... :}
No, if it's entertainment you want, come watch me fish. It's like, I
know there is something down there in the water, but I still have
not
really figured out what it is.. After all, once in a while when I do
catch one it's not in the water anymore, it's all very confusing..
;)
Well, if you ever get your butt down here, let me know, and we'll go
out
and find some flounder or other good eating fish. It's only the
plonkers
who chase after stripers, or, as they usually spell it, "strippers."

Another example of *if Harry doesn't do it, own it, or like it, no one
else should*. Millions of striper fisherman in the U.S., but they are
all idiots because Harry doesn't striper fish.......

I am wondering why Harry thinks only Plonkers (whatever that is)likes to
fish for stripers? They seem to have everything one could want in a
fish, they taste good and fight like hell. They also can get very
large.- Hide quoted text -

I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.

I'll say this for freshwater stripers - they are a different sort of
striper. When I was fishing Lakes Moultrie, Marion and Murray this
summer, I was surprised at the size of the fish and their behavior.
Even the lighter schoolies put up a decent fight and on a medium 8
foot fly rod - whoo hoo!!

They have an interesting behavior that was new to me. I was watching
the fish finder and ran into a rather broad school of blue back
herring. I sat on top of the school and just kind of watched it
drift. After a few minutes you could see fish markers coming in from
the sides and the school start to ball up - eventually starting to
rise from around 100'.

Next thing you know, the herring are on the surface and the stripers
were busting them from below.

Never seen that before - stripers, at least salt water stripers, are
lazy and generally ambush predators.


Maybe on the Wrong coast they are lazy. But out here they will heard the
anchovies into the beach and go on a feeding frenzy. While at San
Francisco State University, I spend many an afternoon a few blocks west
fishing the beaches for stripers. You waited until you saw the birds going
crazy and raced down the beach to start throwing jigs for the stripers.
Lots of times they would be at your feet.


We do the same thing in the bay, look for the birds and haul ass. The trick
is to sneak up on the bait school so as not to scare them off, and then
start throwing jigs. Lots of fun.
--
Red Herring