On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:52:29 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


| Another significant consideration is that
| in some of the ecnomically developing countries a variety of cheaply
| available but dangerous inks can be used that are no longer legal in
| the US or Canada. In many of these countries, there is a lot less risk
| of class-action lawsuits 10-20 years down the road as workers become
| sickened by exposure to a variety of chemicals or a lack of many
| "expensive" safety precautions that would be mandated in the US.

Along with unfriendly inks is the problem of solvents. One of the
MAJOR expenses in printing is reclamation of solvent vapors.

| Shipping costs of the finished product are higher, of course, but for
| items like a novel (with perhaps a $20 cover price on a paperback)
| there is enough revenue generated per unit sold to offset the
| increased shipping.
|
|I followed everything but the cover price concept. Why would anyone
|care what the cover price is? If they can manufacture and ship the
|product to the US cheaper than manufacturing and shipping the product
|from the USA, it shouldn't matter if it has a $1 cover price or a $100
|cover price.

Bean counters? If you print a million copies, a $100 cover vs. a $1
cover is $99,000,000! That sort of number gets attention. The
difference in price of $.50 over 100,000 copies would mean the gain or
loss of $50,000! It adds up fast.

Shipping.... now, that.... *I* don't get. How can I buy a Chinese made
anvil weighing 50# from a retail/importer company for less than I
could just ship the anvil across town? Do we need a level playing
field?

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:52:29 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


| Another significant consideration is that
| in some of the ecnomically developing countries a variety of cheaply
| available but dangerous inks can be used that are no longer legal in
| the US or Canada. In many of these countries, there is a lot less risk
| of class-action lawsuits 10-20 years down the road as workers become
| sickened by exposure to a variety of chemicals or a lack of many
| "expensive" safety precautions that would be mandated in the US.

Along with unfriendly inks is the problem of solvents. One of the
MAJOR expenses in printing is reclamation of solvent vapors.

| Shipping costs of the finished product are higher, of course, but for
| items like a novel (with perhaps a $20 cover price on a paperback)
| there is enough revenue generated per unit sold to offset the
| increased shipping.
|
|I followed everything but the cover price concept. Why would anyone
|care what the cover price is? If they can manufacture and ship the
|product to the US cheaper than manufacturing and shipping the product
|from the USA, it shouldn't matter if it has a $1 cover price or a $100
|cover price.

Bean counters? If you print a million copies, a $100 cover vs. a $1
cover is $99,000,000! That sort of number gets attention. The
difference in price of $.50 over 100,000 copies would mean the gain or
loss of $50,000! It adds up fast.

If you can print and ship an average book for $1.00 less then doing it
in the US, it doesn't matter what the cover price is. If the book has a
cover price of $100 but they are only selling 1,000 of them, they will
save themselves a $1,000. If you sell a book for $10, but sell
1,000,000 you have increased your profit by a million dollars. The
cover price should not impact in your cost analysis.

Shipping.... now, that.... *I* don't get. How can I buy a Chinese made
anvil weighing 50# from a retail/importer company for less than I
could just ship the anvil across town? Do we need a level playing
field?

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:16:44 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:52:29 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
|
| | Another significant consideration is that
| | in some of the ecnomically developing countries a variety of cheaply
| | available but dangerous inks can be used that are no longer legal in
| | the US or Canada. In many of these countries, there is a lot less risk
| | of class-action lawsuits 10-20 years down the road as workers become
| | sickened by exposure to a variety of chemicals or a lack of many
| | "expensive" safety precautions that would be mandated in the US.
|
| Along with unfriendly inks is the problem of solvents. One of the
| MAJOR expenses in printing is reclamation of solvent vapors.
|
| | Shipping costs of the finished product are higher, of course, but for
| | items like a novel (with perhaps a $20 cover price on a paperback)
| | there is enough revenue generated per unit sold to offset the
| | increased shipping.
| |
| |I followed everything but the cover price concept. Why would anyone
| |care what the cover price is? If they can manufacture and ship the
| |product to the US cheaper than manufacturing and shipping the product
| |from the USA, it shouldn't matter if it has a $1 cover price or a $100
| |cover price.
|
| Bean counters? If you print a million copies, a $100 cover vs. a $1
| cover is $99,000,000! That sort of number gets attention. The
| difference in price of $.50 over 100,000 copies would mean the gain or
| loss of $50,000! It adds up fast.
|
|If you can print and ship an average book for $1.00 less then doing it
|in the US, it doesn't matter what the cover price is. If the book has a
|cover price of $100 but they are only selling 1,000 of them, they will
|save themselves a $1,000. If you sell a book for $10, but sell
|1,000,000 you have increased your profit by a million dollars. The
|cover price should not impact in your cost analysis.
|
| Shipping.... now, that.... *I* don't get. How can I buy a Chinese made
| anvil weighing 50# from a retail/importer company for less than I
| could just ship the anvil across town? Do we need a level playing
| field?
|

Hmmm... on second read, I think we are talking apples and oranges. You
are saying "cover price" and I am thinking "price of the cover".....

If the OP was talking about the cost of the cover, my point makes
sense. Covers are often embossed, foil stamped, and any other of a
number of proce$$$$$es.

I can easily imagine the cost of producing the cover to approach, if
not exceed, the cost of printing the *rest* of the book.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:16:44 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:52:29 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
|
| | Another significant consideration is that
| | in some of the ecnomically developing countries a variety of cheaply
| | available but dangerous inks can be used that are no longer legal in
| | the US or Canada. In many of these countries, there is a lot less risk
| | of class-action lawsuits 10-20 years down the road as workers become
| | sickened by exposure to a variety of chemicals or a lack of many
| | "expensive" safety precautions that would be mandated in the US.
|
| Along with unfriendly inks is the problem of solvents. One of the
| MAJOR expenses in printing is reclamation of solvent vapors.
|
| | Shipping costs of the finished product are higher, of course, but for
| | items like a novel (with perhaps a $20 cover price on a paperback)
| | there is enough revenue generated per unit sold to offset the
| | increased shipping.
| |
| |I followed everything but the cover price concept. Why would anyone
| |care what the cover price is? If they can manufacture and ship the
| |product to the US cheaper than manufacturing and shipping the product
| |from the USA, it shouldn't matter if it has a $1 cover price or a $100
| |cover price.
|
| Bean counters? If you print a million copies, a $100 cover vs. a $1
| cover is $99,000,000! That sort of number gets attention. The
| difference in price of $.50 over 100,000 copies would mean the gain or
| loss of $50,000! It adds up fast.
|
|If you can print and ship an average book for $1.00 less then doing it
|in the US, it doesn't matter what the cover price is. If the book has a
|cover price of $100 but they are only selling 1,000 of them, they will
|save themselves a $1,000. If you sell a book for $10, but sell
|1,000,000 you have increased your profit by a million dollars. The
|cover price should not impact in your cost analysis.
|
| Shipping.... now, that.... *I* don't get. How can I buy a Chinese made
| anvil weighing 50# from a retail/importer company for less than I
| could just ship the anvil across town? Do we need a level playing
| field?
|

Hmmm... on second read, I think we are talking apples and oranges. You
are saying "cover price" and I am thinking "price of the cover".....

If the OP was talking about the cost of the cover, my point makes
sense. Covers are often embossed, foil stamped, and any other of a
number of proce$$$$$es.

I can easily imagine the cost of producing the cover to approach, if
not exceed, the cost of printing the *rest* of the book.


And Chuck might have been talking about the same thing you are.