wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:21 pm, BAR wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in messagenewsvydnfmi0MgXUubanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comca st.com...
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.
We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)
AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...
We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)
Don
"Gene Kearns" wrote in messagenews:lginn39h5lp82o6rqkpjacrmpj1afh0l2u@4ax .com...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.
Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?
Been there done that.... it sucks....
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Hell,
AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.
HP practically gives away printers. But, charges an arm and a leg for a
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We did the math one day on ink and it came to over $5,000 per gallon.
It is a raquet. If Blumental wants to go after unfair business
practices, he should check out the major printer companies.
(Blumental refers to the CT states atty. gen. Very prominent in the
spanking microsoft took over the last years...)

But, its the process of getting the $5,000 per gallon ink in the
cartridges that costs all of the money isn't it?

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:45:27 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

We did the math one day on ink and it came to over $5,000 per gallon.
It is a raquet. If Blumental wants to go after unfair business
practices, he should check out the major printer companies.
(Blumental refers to the CT states atty. gen. Very prominent in the
spanking microsoft took over the last years...)

Blumenthal doesn't want to do any real lawyerin' - he's only
interested in things that get him on the TeeVee.

Completely and totally useless waste of AG budget money.

JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:08:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I think it's time for some new thinkers, who have knowledge and respect
for
the culture of the company to take over and set some new directions.
Yep.

However, remember Not Invented Here Syndrome.

Speaking of which, you ought to hear my verison of the Marine Corps
Hymn on my new toy.

If I can figure out how to get it to the computer, I'll send it to
you.

It's a riot. Music plus 'Splosions, gun fire and ooorahs!

Next up - Anchors Aweigh - with drowning sounds.



I got envious of Mrs.E's "system" (which I bought, set up and
optimized), so today I set out on a mission and found another SACD player
for "my" setup.

Sorry, JimH. I have same recording of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Ov...p/B00005AVNHin
three formats, SACD, DVD-A and conventional CD.There's no comparison.
SACD rules!Eisboch

I think it's time for a new keyboard or something for this computer. It
doesn't accept all the keys I hit unless I really punch down on them.
I've tried turning it upside down and vacuuming the keys (which seems to
help) but, unless I really take my time and punch every key with
authority, it seems to ignore half the inputs.

Eisboch


More power to you. My research shows otherwise.

You will, of course, see some members believe you, despite what you post.
Some just cannot think on their own. I am sure one or two will come around
shortly.

Have fun with it. To each their own.

Happy New Year to you and your family.



You and Harry do bring out the best in people.

"HK" wrote in message
news


Dog slobber plays hell with keyboards.



Maybe *that's* it!

I wonder what "handle" he's been using....

Eisboch

"BAR" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


I think it's time for a new keyboard or something for this computer. It
doesn't accept all the keys I hit unless I really punch down on them.
I've tried turning it upside down and vacuuming the keys (which seems to
help) but, unless I really take my time and punch every key with
authority, it seems to ignore half the inputs.

Stop using it as a crumb catcher.



That's probably it. I've been doing some minor construction in the general
area that the computer sits in and I haven't always taken precautions to
cover it or even close the display (it's a laptop). It probably is loaded
with sawdust and drywall dust.

Eisboch

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:34:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:39?am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:59:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Jan 1, 4:31?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
Having a small company that is involved in large, capital equipment type
contracts has certain advantages. ?One of them, that I noticed years ago, is
that the level of new orders almost always reflects an accurate prediction
of which way the general economy was heading, usually about 6 months before
it became a current topic of discussion in the media.

Last year my former company (now my oldest son's) had a tough year with a
major slowdown in new order activity and, in some cases, cancellation or
postponement of planned orders by several customers. ?The situation was not
unique to the company as many others involved in similar, high cost capital
equipment businesses experienced the same slowdown.

This has all changed. ?In the past 30 days the company has received over $6M
in new contracts and the quoting activity for more has picked up
substantially. ?If this continues, and past history says it will, 2008 will
be a very busy year. ?I'll betcha that by May or June all the talk will be
about how robust the US economy is.

Eisboch

Well let's hope so.

Boat sales in the Pacific NW, measured in units, were off 17% 3Q07 vs.
3Q06. The Marine Trade association tired to put a bright spin on the
numbers, noting that the dollar volume of the sales was actually 1%
higher than last year. The dollar volume is less meaningful, as boats
that sell for more money also cost more money, and a 17% dip in volume
is going to wipe out a lot more gross profit than a 1% increase in
total sales dollars will restore.

The higher total dollar volume coupled with the 17% dip in unit sales
reflects the fact that Wally Lunchbucket is a lot more woried about
his job, his budget, the cost of fuel, and so forth than is Daddy
Warbucks.
I sense very little slowdown in the $500k and up market (not that it's
ever a beehive of activity).......but a lot of the small, trailer boat
guys selling new boats for under $100k are singing the blues.

Let's see what happens this spring. The economy is cyclical,
regardless of which political party is in power. Every so often it
slows down, and all the marginal operators who are so inefficient that
they are barely making it when things are booming get weeded out by
reality.
That's probably a good thing in the long run.

I do pity the poor FED. What a quandry. So much of the stuff we buy to
day is imported that low interest rates *really* fuel inflation. Not
only do people borrow for more consumer spending, but the low rates
depress the US dollar on the exchanges and as a result the prices for
almost everything go up. Raise the rates to shore up the dollar, and
while prices will not be driven up as quickly by a weak foreign
exchange our less-than-robust economy can hardly afford a slow down in
consumer spending due to higher monthly payments.

What do you think increasing taxes will do to our 'less than robust'
economy, Chuck?
--

? JohnH

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The key isn't necessarily increasing taxes, it's striking a balance
between the government income (taxation) and government spending.

This could be done by decreasing government spending. No tax increase
needed. Unfortunately, however, there is *no* political party willing
to decrease spending. Exhibit A: In all the years since Andrew Jackson
was president (the last time there was no national debt) up through
January of 2001, the US managed to run up a debt of $5.7trillion. For
the first six of the almost seven years elapsed under the current
administration, a single party controlled the white house and the
congress. There was nothing to prevent that party from instituting
some fiscal discipline if it desired. Instead, we watched a debt that
took over 150 years to go from zero to $5.7 trillion escalate to well
over $9 trillion in the last seven years. (and no, it didn't go up $3
trillion when the D's took over in congress)

Making the US a beggar nation on the international street corner,
turning our currency into toilet paper and our IOU's into "junk bonds"
will tube the economy more surely and more permanently than taking
Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and anybody else who lives almost
exclusively on capital gains and dividends back out of the 15% tax
bracket.

But please understand, I'm *not* strictly in favor of a tax increase.
I'm in favor of fiscal sanity in the federal budget. Cut the level of
Federal expenditures to a point where they are no higher than tax
receipts, (maybe a little lower so we can pay off some of this debt),
and it would look to me like no tax increase needed.

Since the special interest groups will stop funding the current
thieves on both sides of the aisle if $lop stops pouring into the
trough; I'm not optimistic that any spending will be decreased. We
know that the R's didn't, wouldn't, couldn't, do it in the six years
they had a free hand- and I don't expect anything different if the D's
get the WH and hold onto congress next year.

Chuck, to keep a group of people, primarily undereducated, beholding to the
D's will require a *lot* of money for handouts, whatever form they take.

Let's not be coy.


--
Quote of the day: "I did get to use that condom when I was 13, and several more that
summer, thanks to a "fast" 14 year old young lady..." (Harry Krause, bragging again!)

John H

On Jan 2, 8:36*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:08:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I think it's time for some new thinkers, who have knowledge and respect
for
the culture of the company to take over and set some new *directions..

Yep.

However, remember Not Invented Here Syndrome.

Speaking of which, you ought to hear my verison of the Marine Corps
Hymn on my new toy.

If I can figure out how to get it to the computer, I'll send it to
you.

It's a riot. *Music plus 'Splosions, gun fire and ooorahs!

Next up - Anchors Aweigh - with drowning sounds.

I got envious of Mrs.E's "system" *(which I bought, set up and
optimized), so today I set out on a mission and found another SACD player
for "my" setup.

Sorry, JimH. * I have same recording of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Ov...nnati-Multicha...
three formats, *SACD, DVD-A and conventional CD.There's no comparison..
SACD rules!Eisboch

I think it's time for a new keyboard or something for this computer. *It
doesn't accept all the keys I hit unless I really punch down on them.
I've tried turning it upside down and vacuuming the keys (which seems to
help) but, unless I really take my time and punch every key with
authority, it seems to ignore half the inputs.

Eisboch

More power to you. *My research shows otherwise.

Please show this research, I'll bet there are others besides me that
would love to see it. Include the data you've compiled, please.

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:45:27 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:21*pm, BAR wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in messagenewsvydnfmi0MgXUubanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comca st.com...
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. *It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)

Don

"Gene Kearns" wrote in messagenews:lginn39h5lp82o6rqkpjacrmpj1afh0l2u@4ax .com...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

HP practically gives away printers. But, charges an arm and a leg for a
toner or ink cartridge.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We did the math one day on ink and it came to over $5,000 per gallon.
It is a raquet. If Blumental wants to go after unfair business
practices, he should check out the major printer companies.
(Blumental refers to the CT states atty. gen. Very prominent in the
spanking microsoft took over the last years...)

Since I've discovered Costco's photo printing, my ink usage has gone to
almost nothing. With these kind of prices, printing photos at home makes no
sense.

4x6" - 17¢ each
5x7" - 39¢ each
8x10" - $1.49 each
8x12" - $1.49 each
--
Quote of the day: "I did get to use that condom when I was 13, and several more that
summer, thanks to a "fast" 14 year old young lady..." (Harry Krause, bragging again!)

John H

On Jan 2, 4:20*pm, "D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote:
wrote in ...

On Jan 2, 12:41 pm, "D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote:





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"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
.. .

I hope you're right but I doubt it. The housing market
is up to its eyeballs in forclosures with more to come and
credit card debt is at an all time high.

I've worked for the same
company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
90's. Things have sucked pretty bad for the last 2 years
and its a miricle we're still here. Unfortunately, the
writing is on the wall as we have enough money left
for about 1 more pay period. Too bad its not boating
season as it looks like I might have some free time on
my hands coming up.

Don

I hate to hear stories like that. Is the downturn in your industry economy
related or is it due to diminishing requirements for printed material?

Computer/Digital technology is the culprit. Most folks are happy
with the quality of color copies (or the like) rather than *real*
offset printing.

Eisboch (went through many close calls over the years)

We've had so many I've lost count but Im afraid its a little
too close this time.

Just the same, I hope you're right about the economy. I would
like to see the real estate market rebound soon.

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Is there a possiblilty that your company could change tactics, perhaps
start getting into computer technology? I personally send
electronically produced drawings to a local shop to have sets made,
stapled and bound. They'll even overnight them via UPS to whomever I
want them to go, then back charge me for it.

We actually have evolved in that way for many years now.
Lets just say that the store hasn't been minded well as of late.....

Understood. When in college, I worked for a company that, even as a
part time employee, and still a tad naive as far as business practices
go, even I got the fact that they were running themselves into the
ground!

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 04:33:15 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


I think it's time for a new keyboard or something for this computer. It
doesn't accept all the keys I hit unless I really punch down on them.
I've tried turning it upside down and vacuuming the keys (which seems to
help) but, unless I really take my time and punch every key with
authority, it seems to ignore half the inputs.

Stop using it as a crumb catcher.



That's probably it. I've been doing some minor construction in the general
area that the computer sits in and I haven't always taken precautions to
cover it or even close the display (it's a laptop). It probably is loaded
with sawdust and drywall dust.

Eisboch


Hey! We're talking nineteen bucks! Go get a new one. Hell, buy two or three
so you don't have to waste gas next time!

http://tinyurl.com/27hd3j

I'm a proud owner of this one, which costs a little more, but works well.

http://tinyurl.com/2h6hjw
--
Quote of the day: "I did get to use that condom when I was 13, and several more that
summer, thanks to a "fast" 14 year old young lady..." (Harry Krause, bragging again!)

John H