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On Dec 27, 9:08*am, John H. wrote:
I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac |
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... On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:11:26 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 9:08 am, John H. wrote: I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac The free version of Winamp or the pay version, or does it make any difference? If you promise never to post to this newsgroup again, I'll send you my copy of Winamp along with the necessary registration info. |
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On Dec 27, 9:21*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:11:26 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 9:08*am, John H. wrote: I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac The free version of Winamp or the pay version, or does it make any difference? I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:22:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:11:26 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 9:08 am, John H. wrote: I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac The free version of Winamp or the pay version, or does it make any difference? If you promise never to post to this newsgroup again, I'll send you my copy of Winamp along with the necessary registration info. It's probably loaded with virii. (Some stuff Harry invented.) No thanks. Learn to use your filters, but don't pretend - like some do. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. My mp3 player and the software that comes with it supports flac. It's the format I use when I'm auditioning a new cd on the portable player. |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:09:19 GMT, "RG" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. My mp3 player and the software that comes with it supports flac. It's the format I use when I'm auditioning a new cd on the portable player. It looks like I'll have to download some more software to play the flac file. Or, not download .flac files. That's always an option too! |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:19:52 -0500, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:09:19 GMT, "RG" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. My mp3 player and the software that comes with it supports flac. It's the format I use when I'm auditioning a new cd on the portable player. It looks like I'll have to download some more software to play the flac file. Or, not download .flac files. That's always an option too! Just installed Winamp. The current free version handles a 'flac' file. Yay! |
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On Dec 27, 10:33*am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:19:52 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:09:19 GMT, "RG" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. My mp3 player and the software that comes with it supports flac. *It's the format I use when I'm auditioning a new cd on the portable player. It looks like I'll have to download some more software to play the flac file. Or, not download .flac files. That's always an option too! Just installed Winamp. The current free version handles a 'flac' file. Yay!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're welcome...... |
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On Dec 27, 12:03*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:44:37 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 10:33*am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:19:52 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:09:19 GMT, "RG" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. My mp3 player and the software that comes with it supports flac. *It's the format I use when I'm auditioning a new cd on the portable player. It looks like I'll have to download some more software to play the flac file. Or, not download .flac files. That's always an option too! Just installed Winamp. The current free version handles a 'flac' file. Yay!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're welcome...... Yes! I owe you a 'thank you'. Thank You!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just yanking your chain! Is everything working the way you want now? |
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wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 9:21 am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:11:26 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 9:08 am, John H. wrote: I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac The free version of Winamp or the pay version, or does it make any difference? I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:01:27 -0600, "Del Cecchi"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 9:21 am, John H. wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:11:26 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 27, 9:08 am, John H. wrote: I went to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical and ran into a 'flac' file extension. Anybody know what will open a file with that extension? WMP, Divx, and IrfanView won't touch it. WinAmp with the FLAC plugin is what I use, here are some mo http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/flac The free version of Winamp or the pay version, or does it make any difference? I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. Got it. Thanks. |
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@mid.individual.net: I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. Are you guys playing all this disk-hogging FLAC through those ****ty little boat speakers that sound like crap? Don't forget all the music was sampled at 44.1 Kbps in the first place before they burned it onto the CDs. No matter how many Gigabytes you encode it into it's NEVER gonna overcome it. Larry -- I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12. My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month. Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations? |
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... "Del Cecchi" wrote in news:5tii56F1dtcp9U1 @mid.individual.net: I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. Are you guys playing all this disk-hogging FLAC through those ****ty little boat speakers that sound like crap? Don't forget all the music was sampled at 44.1 Kbps in the first place before they burned it onto the CDs. No matter how many Gigabytes you encode it into it's NEVER gonna overcome it. Larry Just the word "flac" sounds like something you'd wipe off the floor with a big wad of paper towels, and then spray with Lysol just to be safe. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Del Cecchi" wrote in news:5tii56F1dtcp9U1 @mid.individual.net: I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. Are you guys playing all this disk-hogging FLAC through those ****ty little boat speakers that sound like crap? Don't forget all the music was sampled at 44.1 Kbps in the first place before they burned it onto the CDs. No matter how many Gigabytes you encode it into it's NEVER gonna overcome it. Larry -- I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12. My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month. Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations? Not the bootlegs. And isn't that 44k Bytes per second? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
: Just the word "flac" sounds like something you'd wipe off the floor with a big wad of paper towels, and then spray with Lysol just to be safe. Actually FLAC, (Free Lossless Audio Codec), an opensource project across the planet housed at http://flac.org/ is a wonderful audio product. You can download and add FLAC to about any computer. They even have a nice player if you want a different one. What's neat about FLAC is if you encoded an audio file into FLAC, then decode it back into the audio file you started with, you get an EXACT duplicate of what you started with....right to the single BIT! It's perfect. That won't happen with MP3. That said, it's crazy to use it unless you're encoding directly from the audio console at Carnegie Hall of some amazing symphonic concert and simply MUST have every crazy harmonic, noise and sneeze the audience can make. Flac is superior to 44.1 Khz encoding on a CD, which does "distort" the music 99.99% of the humans would never hear or sense. But this is about BOATS.....BOATS with ****ty little speakers hooked to a crap boat stereo in little acoustic disaster cutouts in a hollowed out plastic box or crappy little Boze tinyspeakers hung under a shelf in a cabin that, acoustically, is like listening to music in a 55 gallon oil drum! I mean......what's the point?! Test my hypothesis for yourselves. Take your favorite CD and rip it to a set of MP3s at DIFFERENT sample rates. Make some song encoded at 32Kbps, 64Kbps, 128Kbps, 256Kbps all mixed up from all the songs. Put the mixed up MP3 disk into your MP3 player on the boat speakers and play it for the onboard drunks. See if any of them notice the difference....they won't, even if they're not drunk. Actually if you make it a point to tell them about this experiment, I bet most of them will appreciate the 32K MP3 songs the most because it does dull out some of the highs, effectively boosting the bass and giving you a "rounder" sound like an old tube amp used to...deadening the damned boat's oil drum acoustics and making those ****ty little white boat speakers HAVE a little bass, instead of a buzz! If you encode at 16K or 22K, the music sounds about like AM radio rounding out the highs even better. Now, figure out what encoding sample rate everyone likes the best and encode ALL the music you use on the boat like that! You'll be AMAZED at how much music you can put on a CDR at 32K! It'll play all day without swapping disks with lots of albums to SHUFFLE with so you don't HAVE to listen to a WHOLE album of Yanny all at once in FLAC, which DRIVES ME CRAZY! You won't even need that stupid CD changer you can't find a place to hide from the water that will destroy it. After 2 beers, 16K sounds just as good as 320K or perfect FLAC!....especially when there are 20 albums to shuffle on ONE disk!! Write the GENRE of each of the 3 disks the boat now carries on the CDR. Take the changer and those huge disk carriers home. Drink another beer to thank me for curing this other insanity....on a BOAT! Larry -- I bought a MotoROKR Z6M Sellphone from Alltel that has a 2GB microSD card and fairly nice, but simple, MP3 player in it. Its speakers suck. Moto finally put a STANDARD stereo headphone jack on the tiny phone so I can plug in my tiny FM transmitter to it. I'm on 88.3 if you like light classic rock and Carolina Beach Music made to squish the sand between your toes dancing in the sand. I load up the Z6M and put a fresh AAA alkaline in the transmitter before going on anyone's boat. Fed up listening to the opera after a couple of hours, after the group has mellowed on libations, I say, "Have you heard the new station on 88.3 FM?", much to the relief of everyone else aboard. Without drawing attention to myself, I put my hand in my pocket to turn on the FM transmitter and punch PLAY on the phone. The music goes on in SHUFFLE for all 800-1000 tunes for hours to the delight of everyone groovin' around on board. Mixed in with the music, I put some jingles it stumbles upon a friend sent me from WABC Engineering. They all look at me funny when the "radio" comes on with the 1970's station jingles...."Seventy Seven, W-A-B-C!....The station with the happy diffffffrence!" The Les Paul/Mary Ford Riengold Beer commercials always get a grin from us old folks. They also sold Robert Hall discount clothes. As the night wears on, as I sail with an older crowd usually, a nice Jackie Gleason Orchestra program of dreamy love songs winds down the onboard festivities with close dancing some couples haven't done in years, barefooted on deck against the backdrop of Charleston Harbor at night....as we motor quietly into the marina, the envy of the whole assemblage on the docks........(c;) |
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"Del Cecchi" wrote in
: And isn't that 44k Bytes per second? Oh, sorry....44.1K 16-bit SAMPLES per second. Bytes are 8 bit. Here, a little background reality: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_cdfaqb.html Frequency response: 5 to 20,000 Hz +/- 3 dB. Harmonic distortion: .008 % at 1 KHz. Dynamic range: Greater than 90 dB. Signal to noise ratio: Greater than 85 dB. The frequency response is a dirty lie. That's the DISK frequency response. If they want to SELL the music on FM radio, they use the RIAA equalization standard of 50-15000 Hz....which is exactly the audio bandwidth allowed on FM radio since World War 2 and what's been recorded on all 33 RPM LPs since the first one was pressed. All the music you listen to is recorded for FM transmission. Notice the freq response is +/- 3%, not .3 or .03 or .00001. This means nothing because the worst instrument in the listening string is YOU and your rotten human frequency response. Drop by an audiologist and have your own hearing swept frequency tested. It's just awful, even if you are 16 and never used hiphop headphones so loud they could hear you in the next car. Every FM stereo transmitter is sending out a constant "pilot tone" of 19 Khz, the whole time the transmitter is in stereo. This tone is the reference frequency for the L minus R quadrature stereo difference channel, a doublesideband supersonic audio signal centered on 38 Khz. To inject the carrier for this subcarrier, the pilot tone is doubled to 38 Khz and injected so it can be detected in the stereo receiver without too much interference to the main L + R main channel, compatible with mono FM receivers. You don't hear the 19 Khz "tone" in the speakers because the receiver has a sharp cutoff low pass filter at 15 Khz up. Sounds fine, doesn't it? Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! One more shot....radio stations playing the finest music used to run massive reel to reel tape decks at 3 3/4" per second....while Audiofools at home spent millions on 15"/sec massive monsters to steal it...(c; We had 3 at our studio. Tape heads noted to be "muffled" were usually cleaned with your pocket hanky...unless you'd blown your nose in it, when toilet paper from the men's room was substituted. A few good rubs over the head to get the layer of tape crap off 'em fixed the freq response problem for another couple of weeks. "Alignment" meant you put in a commercially recorded tape, plugged in your headphones, punched play and waited for the music to come up....then turned the head alignment screw until Elvis had the most highs you could hear. Close enough. The boss would bitch if you wanted to buy an "alignment tape standard", a waste of money. If you made it sound TOO good, the advertisers would **** and moan that their commercials sounded like crap on the cart machines at 1 3/4 ips....the only reason the transmitter was on the air in the first place. In America, programming just fills in the time between commercials....now even on Educational Radio and TV! Lucky for us BBC has internet streaming....Thank you Radio 2! Remember those old CRT television sets? All of them screamed at 15,565Hz, the horizontal Color scan rate. Could you hear them screaming while you were watching Ed Sullivan? When I was a teen, I could hear them, especially my grandfather's Dumont monochrome monster. After sleeping with the whine of axial vent fans in the Navy, that cured that problem for the rest of my life, even before the electronic scanning came out. Larry -- I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12. My SS retirement check is one American Eagle/month! Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations? |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Subsonic frequencies are often recorded as low frequency effects in some DVD movies. Watch "Das Boat" on a home theater system equipped with an 18" Velodyne subwoofer and you will be convinced. Nothing you hear, but certainly something you feel. Eisboch |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote:
Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. Actually, there is a difference. The delivery is similar, but there is some interesting content in what Larry posts. On the other hand. Harry's repatoir consists of "I hate you", I hate Bush", "America sucks", "If you join the military you're a loser", "I have the best boat", I have the best guns", "My wife is younger than yours", I know everything there is to know about anything worth knowing". Another thing. Larry has a parrot. Harry is one. He repeats the same old **** ad nauseum. Rant mode off. That felt good. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:01:27 -0600, Del Cecchi wrote:
free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Flac is already compressed, but it's a loss-less compression. http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. While Larry has a very strong opinion on many subjects, and KNOWS his opinion is the only one worthwhile, he does not believe the entire world revolves around himself, nor does he spend all of his time hurling personal insults. If i was Larry I would be very insulted. ;) |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap operation. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. While Larry has a very strong opinion on many subjects, and KNOWS his opinion is the only one worthwhile, he does not believe the entire world revolves around himself, nor does he spend all of his time hurling personal insults. If i was Larry I would be very insulted. ;) Another MAJOR difference is Larry actually has friends and enjoys and spends time boating. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:23:34 +0000, Larry wrote:
"Del Cecchi" wrote in news:5tii56F1dtcp9U1 : I don't know, I've got the pay version, because I use it with my sound systems for instruments, etc. so I don't know if the free version supports it, I'll try to find out. free version supports it. there are also programs to compress flac and convert to mp3. Many bit torrent sites use flac, and bootlegs are also often distributed as flac. Are you guys playing all this disk-hogging FLAC through those ****ty little boat speakers that sound like crap? Don't forget all the music was sampled at 44.1 Kbps in the first place before they burned it onto the CDs. No matter how many Gigabytes you encode it into it's NEVER gonna overcome it. Larry I play it through my Bose speakers. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap operation. You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday. I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a central computer system that is second in size only to that used by the Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central computer within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as weather forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather event historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer data results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the affected area from several distribution centers, days before the storm system arrives. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap operation. You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday. I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a central computer system that is second in size only to that used by the Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central computer within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as weather forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather event historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer data results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the affected area from several distribution centers, days before the storm system arrives. Eisboch You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:14:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. The big difference is that Larry sometimes provides some good information! |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:40:31 -0500, "Jim"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce 30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy? You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz, because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios. Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since WW2. It made many billionaires! Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H around? Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is different. Actually, there is a difference. The delivery is similar, but there is some interesting content in what Larry posts. On the other hand. Harry's repatoir consists of "I hate you", I hate Bush", "America sucks", "If you join the military you're a loser", "I have the best boat", I have the best guns", "My wife is younger than yours", I know everything there is to know about anything worth knowing". Another thing. Larry has a parrot. Harry is one. He repeats the same old **** ad nauseum. Rant mode off. That felt good. Yeah, what he said. |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap operation. You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday. I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a central computer system that is second in size only to that used by the Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central computer within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as weather forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather event historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer data results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the affected area from several distribution centers, days before the storm system arrives. Eisboch You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China. If you think WalMart is such a terrible organization, why in the world would you save a coupon to Walmart? |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China. Frankly, I don't follow those allegations with the vigor that you obviously do. The bottom line is that Wal-Mart effectively serves a large part of the population. I don't go "shopping" often and go to Wal-Mart even less but when I do I always take note of the number of young families shopping for necessities for the household or personal needs. They do so because they need to stretch their buying power and the prices at Wal-Mart are attractive. I certainly remember those days. The other day I noticed that a couple of those miniature 12 volt, 10 watt halogen lights were out on the Navigator. I stopped by West Marine to pick up half a dozen or so and had sticker shock at the price. Over 5 bucks each. I am not exactly a penny-pincher, but I couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a stupid little light. Went to our local hardware store and they were priced at about the same. Now I was on a mission. Went to Wal-Mart and found a larger stock of the same bulb, in the same Phillips packaging for almost a dollar less per bulb. Then, I was hooking up a DLP projector and needed an extra long "S" video cord. Radio Shack only had 12 footers. Same with Best Buy and Circuit City. None carried the "S" video barrel connectors that allow hooking two or more cords together. The guy at Circuit City turned his head back and forth to make sure we weren't being overheard and then suggested Wal-Mart. Sure enough, they carried 25 foot "S" video cords and the hard to find barrel connectors as well. So, Wal-Mart ain't all bad in my book. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China. Frankly, I don't follow those allegations with the vigor that you obviously do. They're not allegations. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:04:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound reproduction? Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done pretty well: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html Eisboch So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap operation. You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday. I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a central computer system that is second in size only to that used by the Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central computer within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as weather forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather event historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer data results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the affected area from several distribution centers, days before the storm system arrives. Eisboch Not to change the subject, but I'm listening to: "Michael Flatley - Celtic Dance - 01 - Reel Around the Sun.mp3" from alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.celtic Very nice. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:48:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China. Frankly, I don't follow those allegations with the vigor that you obviously do. The bottom line is that Wal-Mart effectively serves a large part of the population. I don't go "shopping" often and go to Wal-Mart even less but when I do I always take note of the number of young families shopping for necessities for the household or personal needs. They do so because they need to stretch their buying power and the prices at Wal-Mart are attractive. I certainly remember those days. The other day I noticed that a couple of those miniature 12 volt, 10 watt halogen lights were out on the Navigator. I stopped by West Marine to pick up half a dozen or so and had sticker shock at the price. Over 5 bucks each. I am not exactly a penny-pincher, but I couldn't bring myself to pay that much for a stupid little light. Went to our local hardware store and they were priced at about the same. Now I was on a mission. Went to Wal-Mart and found a larger stock of the same bulb, in the same Phillips packaging for almost a dollar less per bulb. Then, I was hooking up a DLP projector and needed an extra long "S" video cord. Radio Shack only had 12 footers. Same with Best Buy and Circuit City. None carried the "S" video barrel connectors that allow hooking two or more cords together. The guy at Circuit City turned his head back and forth to make sure we weren't being overheard and then suggested Wal-Mart. Sure enough, they carried 25 foot "S" video cords and the hard to find barrel connectors as well. So, Wal-Mart ain't all bad in my book. Eisboch Careful. If you disagree too much, you'll join us in his 'bozo bin'. We who are so defiled are having a nice time in there, and we don't want it to get too crowded! |
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"JG2U" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote: "Del Cecchi" wrote in : And isn't that 44k Bytes per second? Oh, sorry....44.1K 16-bit SAMPLES per second. Bytes are 8 bit. Here, a little background reality: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_cdfaqb.html Frequency response: 5 to 20,000 Hz +/- 3 dB. Harmonic distortion: .008 % at 1 KHz. Dynamic range: Greater than 90 dB. Signal to noise ratio: Greater than 85 dB. The frequency response is a dirty lie. That's the DISK frequency response. If they want to SELL the music on FM radio, they use the RIAA equalization standard of 50-15000 Hz....which is exactly the audio bandwidth allowed on FM radio since World War 2 and what's been recorded on all 33 RPM LPs since the first one was pressed. All the music you listen to is recorded for FM transmission. Notice the freq response is +/- 3%, not .3 or .03 or .00001. This means nothing because the worst instrument in the listening string is YOU and your rotten human frequency response. Drop by an audiologist and have your own hearing swept frequency tested. It's just awful, even if you are 16 and never used hiphop headphones so loud they could hear you in the next car. Larry A couple of corrections... Nyquist's Theorum says that you must sample audio at a rate of at least two times the highest frequency you want to recover, our else aliasing (distortion) will occur. So 20,000 hz times 2 = 40,000. So, the 44,100 samples per second rate allows up to 20,000 hz to be recorded and played back. While it's true that most pop music is recorded with a mix that will sound good on FM radio, the frequency response on those recordings are not necessarily limited to 15kHz. The FM transmission by its nature just rolls off anything above 15k in the source material. Also, the frequency response is +/- 3dB, not %. 3dB is about the minimum volume change the human ear can detect in a complex audio waveform (such as music). While the human ear does not have a flat frequency response by any means, it CAN detect any changes from the response curve it is used to hearing. Crank up your bass and treble control to see what I mean. What that means is that when you hear the playback of a particular musical instrument through your sound system, you hear not only the instrument, but also whatever was added and/or subtracted by the recording and playback equipment. The less the equipment changes the sound, the better and more accurate the instrument sounds compared to the original source. That's why those specification numbers have to be so good... your ear can hear the coloration that a limited or a non-flat flat frequency response adds to the source. Even if the sound is slightly outside of your audible hearing range, studies have shown that those sounds still contribute to what your brain perceives. Oh, and TVs don't whine anymore because they figured out ways to mannufacture them so they are quieter. When one gets noisy I can still hear it. This biggest single contributor to the horizontal scanning frequency noise came for a poorly constructed flyback transformer. |
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