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Dan December 30th 07 02:23 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are
crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes
to sound reproduction?
Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html



Eisboch
So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there
is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there isn't.
Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is a crap
operation.


You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands, hundreds
of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday.

I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a central
computer system that is second in size only to that used by the
Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of
toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central computer
within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as weather
forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather event
historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer data
results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the affected
area from several distribution centers, days before the storm system
arrives.

Eisboch





You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an
operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then
lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China.


And if they were dragged into a union you would support them with no
concern about the products they sell, right?

Dan December 30th 07 02:23 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are
crap, and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it
comes to sound reproduction?
Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html



Eisboch
So has Dick Cheney. Doesn't mean he isn't crap, too. Sometimes there
is a connection between money and quality, and sometimes there
isn't. Wal-Mart does a tremendous amount of business, and yet it is
a crap operation.


You must feel like a voice in the wilderness since thousands,
hundreds of thousands and millions of people feel otherwise everyday.

I saw a documentary about Wal-Mart the other day. They have a
central computer system that is second in size only to that used by
the Pentagon. The sale of any item, from a plasma TV to a tube of
toothpaste at any store nationwide is reported to the central
computer within an hour of the sale. Trends are monitored as well as
weather forecasts for all areas because a storm or unusual weather
event historically raises the demand for certain items. The computer
data results in extra stock of those items being shipped to the
affected area from several distribution centers, days before the
storm system arrives.

Eisboch





You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an
operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then
lies about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China.


If you think WalMart is such a terrible organization, why in the world
would you save a coupon to Walmart?


crickets

Dan December 30th 07 02:26 AM

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:39:49 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:37:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:48:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

You are talking about "operations." I am talking about Wal-Mart as an
operation, one that violates wage-hour laws, hires illegals and then lies
about it, facilitates the slave labor trade in China.


Frankly, I don't follow those allegations with the vigor that you obviously
do.

The bottom line is that Wal-Mart effectively serves a large part of the
population. I don't go "shopping" often and go to Wal-Mart even less but
when I do I always take note of the number of young families shopping for
necessities for the household or personal needs. They do so because they
need to stretch their buying power and the prices at Wal-Mart are
attractive. I certainly remember those days.

The other day I noticed that a couple of those miniature 12 volt, 10 watt
halogen lights were out on the Navigator.
I stopped by West Marine to pick up half a dozen or so and had sticker shock
at the price. Over 5 bucks each.
I am not exactly a penny-pincher, but I couldn't bring myself to pay that
much for a stupid little light.

Went to our local hardware store and they were priced at about the same.
Now I was on a mission.
Went to Wal-Mart and found a larger stock of the same bulb, in the same
Phillips packaging for almost a dollar less per bulb.

Then, I was hooking up a DLP projector and needed an extra long "S" video
cord. Radio Shack only had 12 footers.
Same with Best Buy and Circuit City. None carried the "S" video barrel
connectors that allow hooking two or more cords together. The guy at
Circuit City turned his head back and forth to make sure we weren't being
overheard and then suggested Wal-Mart. Sure enough, they carried 25 foot
"S" video cords and the hard to find barrel connectors as well.

So, Wal-Mart ain't all bad in my book.

Eisboch

Careful. If you disagree too much, you'll join us in his 'bozo bin'. We who
are so defiled are having a nice time in there, and we don't want it to get
too crowded!

I think the plan is that we ALL make sure we are put in his bozo bin.
That constructively ousts Harry and leaves the rest of us here
participating as always but without his input.


There are a couple here who still find Harry 'enlightening'! But, I like
the idea.

However, he seems to find a way to respond to most of the posts from those
who are in his 'killfile'.


It's due to his disorder. Evidently narcissism can really do strange
things.

Dan December 30th 07 02:29 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
HK wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in
:
Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...poration-Compa
ny-History.html

Eisboch


Hey, these same people buying Bose are buying Apple iPhones, which are
also crap.

Larry



All I want from a cellphone is a strong signal wherever I am, long
battery life, a volume control that provides plenty of gain so I can
hear what is being said in noisy places, and a way to easily store and
retrieve the phone numbers I call. I don't want no steeeenking camera,
video games, internet access or instant messaging, or any of the other
crap. Concentrate on the damned phone as a phone, dammit.


Who asked for your opinion, Harry? No one? That should tell you something.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 30th 07 04:01 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.
AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the
R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines
wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the
solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;

The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked,
but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all
metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They
were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several
hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground
paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT
fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out
why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in
each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny
sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly
cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft,
you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid
of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....
I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET
types don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".
Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.

How else would he had survived in the military.


I read another Reggie post here..........I read another insult to another NG
member.

No other comment necessary other than .............sigh.




Well, since I meant that as a complement, I can't figure out what you
mean, but why should that be any different. Even Larry said he was not
"military", yet he retired from the military. The only way that can
happen is to be excellent at what you do.

Larry is not a think skinned little whinny, so I am sure he took it the
way I meant it.

Now find something else to whine about.... tell us how you "can't take
it anymore". sheesh, you son must be ashamed of his old man.



Larry December 30th 07 04:08 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

"I picked up the AD-24


Sorry. AD-24 was the hull number painted on both sides of the bow so the
Israeli gunboats would know what they were shooting at (in 1967) if we
got in range, which we didn't.

Actually it said D24. You were supposed to know it was an "Auxiliary"
ship from it's nearly total lack of guns and electronics. The only way
we scared anyone is if we were about to run them down. We could throw
stuff at them over the side, I suppose.

AD = Destroyer Tender (a floating shipyard to fix destroyers up a fiord
was the idea). 24, the 24th in a short line of such ships, started at
the end of WW2 and never completed....left sitting on the quay until
Korea when they completed her in 1952...Why was never understood. Maybe
it was to get her out of the way to build another boat.

We even have a webpage from one of my shipmates in the Glades
Association:
http://home.att.net/~brisbane-adams/

Adams was in the DASH antisub helo program they hid on Glades over my
shop...(c; I saw it fly, briefly, ONCE....a total boondoggle.


Larry
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Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 30th 07 05:06 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
JimH wrote:

Well, since I meant that as a complement...........


Get into politics Reggie as you have learned how to *try* turn bull crap
into ice cream.\\

I have to give you a gold star for that. ;-)


Next thing you will be doing is telling everyone I am stalking you and
your wife?

Did you ever tell you son, you blamed him for your mental breakdown?


CalifBill December 30th 07 07:51 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"JG2U" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic


Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Get a good MIG welder and practice. Go to the local college and take a
class. The Art welding class is good, if they have one. Now TIG is hard,
but mig is easier than stick. I have a Lincoln 180C. And get a good
autodarkening helmet. Not a cheap Harbor Freight one. A Jackson or Tilman
would be my choice. The 180C comes with a spool gun for aluminum. Just
supply an Argon bottle and make sure you feed enough argon.



Calif Bill December 30th 07 07:11 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"JG2U" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On 12/29/2007 6:23:54 PM, JG2U wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic

Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Let me know if you need any help. Welding is one of the subjects that I
teach.

Let me restate what another poster said. GET A GOOD WELDING HELMET. You
can actually "sun burn" yourself with MIG. The last things you want to try
to
tan are your eyes...


Thanks, Gene. Of course I do want to protect my eyes. I had read
several positive "reviews" for the auto-darkening helmet that Northern
Tool sells for about $50, so I bought one. The pro welder that I
talked to said that helmet would be OK, but for me to be aware that
the way they usually fail is for the lense to gradually get lighter,
so it sneaks up on you. He did say that his $250 helmets do the same
thing, they are just more comfortable and physically hold up better to
heavy use.


The cheap helmets take a long time to darken. Up to a 1/4 second on some.
My Tilman does in in about 1/25,000 of a second.



[email protected] December 30th 07 07:15 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Dec 30, 2:11*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JG2U" wrote in message

...





On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:


On 12/29/2007 6:23:54 PM, JG2U wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. *I did the boilers.


--Vic


Yeah? *Can you weld? *I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Let me know if you need any help. Welding is one of the subjects that I
teach.


Let me restate what another poster said. GET A GOOD WELDING HELMET. You
can actually "sun burn" yourself with MIG. The last things you want to try
to
tan are your eyes...


Thanks, Gene. *Of course I do want to protect my eyes. *I had read
several positive "reviews" for the auto-darkening helmet that Northern
Tool sells for about $50, so I bought one. *The pro welder that I
talked to said that helmet would be OK, but for me to be aware that
the way they usually fail is for the lense to gradually get lighter,
so it sneaks up on you. *He did say that his $250 helmets do the same
thing, they are just more comfortable and physically hold up better to
heavy use.


The cheap helmets take a long time to darken. *Up to a 1/4 second on some.
My Tilman does in in about 1/25,000 of a second.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bull.

[email protected] December 30th 07 07:18 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Dec 29, 9:29*pm, Dan wrote:
HK wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in
om:
Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:


http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...poration-Compa
ny-History.html


Eisboch


Hey, these same people buying Bose are buying Apple iPhones, which are
also crap.


Larry


All I want from a cellphone is a strong signal wherever I am, long
battery life, a volume control that provides plenty of gain so I can
hear what is being said in noisy places, and a way to easily store and
retrieve the phone numbers I call. I don't want no steeeenking camera,
video games, internet access or instant messaging, or any of the other
crap. Concentrate on the damned phone as a phone, dammit.


Who asked for your opinion, Harry? *No one? *That should tell you something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Who asked YOUR opinion, RBFB?

Calif Bill December 30th 07 07:48 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 2:11 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JG2U" wrote in message

...





On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:


On 12/29/2007 6:23:54 PM, JG2U wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.


--Vic


Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Let me know if you need any help. Welding is one of the subjects that I
teach.


Let me restate what another poster said. GET A GOOD WELDING HELMET. You
can actually "sun burn" yourself with MIG. The last things you want to
try
to
tan are your eyes...


Thanks, Gene. Of course I do want to protect my eyes. I had read
several positive "reviews" for the auto-darkening helmet that Northern
Tool sells for about $50, so I bought one. The pro welder that I
talked to said that helmet would be OK, but for me to be aware that
the way they usually fail is for the lense to gradually get lighter,
so it sneaks up on you. He did say that his $250 helmets do the same
thing, they are just more comfortable and physically hold up better to
heavy use.


The cheap helmets take a long time to darken. Up to a 1/4 second on some.
My Tilman does in in about 1/25,000 of a second.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bull.

Bull yourself. Is oen of the reasons the costs are different. Use the
HArbor Freight helmet and you will have sore eyes after a short time. Both
protect from the UV as that is in the glass itself, but the darkening is the
key to comfortable eyes. Something else you know nothing about.



Eisboch December 30th 07 08:30 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 2:11 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JG2U" wrote in message

...





On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:


On 12/29/2007 6:23:54 PM, JG2U wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.


--Vic


Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Let me know if you need any help. Welding is one of the subjects that I
teach.


Let me restate what another poster said. GET A GOOD WELDING HELMET. You
can actually "sun burn" yourself with MIG. The last things you want to
try
to
tan are your eyes...


Thanks, Gene. Of course I do want to protect my eyes. I had read
several positive "reviews" for the auto-darkening helmet that Northern
Tool sells for about $50, so I bought one. The pro welder that I
talked to said that helmet would be OK, but for me to be aware that
the way they usually fail is for the lense to gradually get lighter,
so it sneaks up on you. He did say that his $250 helmets do the same
thing, they are just more comfortable and physically hold up better to
heavy use.


The cheap helmets take a long time to darken. Up to a 1/4 second on some.
My Tilman does in in about 1/25,000 of a second.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bull.

Bull yourself. Is oen of the reasons the costs are different. Use the
HArbor Freight helmet and you will have sore eyes after a short time.
Both protect from the UV as that is in the glass itself, but the darkening
is the key to comfortable eyes. Something else you know nothing about.


I'll tell ya ...

I've been a very occasional and totally amateur welder for many years, TIG
(my "specialty" and MIG). Having experienced a "flash" many years ago, the
last thing I'd rely on is auto darkening helmets.

Eisboch (still can imagine the feeling of sand in my eyes)




Calif Bill December 30th 07 09:14 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"JG2U" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:15:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 30, 2:11 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


The cheap helmets take a long time to darken. Up to a 1/4 second on
some.
My Tilman does in in about 1/25,000 of a second.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bull.


Even my cheap helmet says it changes in 1/25,000 of a second. Check
it out at:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...1850_200311850


They used to be a lot slower.



Dan December 31st 07 01:51 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
wrote:
On Dec 29, 9:29 pm, Dan wrote:
HK wrote:
Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in
:
Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...poration-Compa
ny-History.html
Eisboch
Hey, these same people buying Bose are buying Apple iPhones, which are
also crap.
Larry
All I want from a cellphone is a strong signal wherever I am, long
battery life, a volume control that provides plenty of gain so I can
hear what is being said in noisy places, and a way to easily store and
retrieve the phone numbers I call. I don't want no steeeenking camera,
video games, internet access or instant messaging, or any of the other
crap. Concentrate on the damned phone as a phone, dammit.

Who asked for your opinion, Harry? No one? That should tell you something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Who asked YOUR opinion, RBFB?


Care to expand on that Sally? In detail?


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