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Reginald P. Smithers III[_8_] December 29th 07 01:55 AM

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JG2U wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:38:50 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
"JG2U" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:06:56 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"JG2U" wrote in message
JimH,

You really need to remove your nose from John's ass. And he vis-a-vis
to you.
Actually you have it all wrong as you have not been here long enough to
see
the real pattern of him puppy dogging all my posts. After he rejected
my
request to stop it he is now receiving what he deserves.

Actually, I have been around this NG for 7-8 years in one form or
another.

Reggie?

Didn't someone already indentify him as Jackoff?


You guys may learn to read headers one day, eh?


For people who pride themselves in being so computer literate, they sure
lack some basic skills.


Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 02:01 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.


Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.

Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 02:02 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:01:21 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps. Happened
at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands
feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in the
ambulance on the way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine other
than some minor burns on my fingers.


OUCH.....

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)


Wanna bet? :)

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 29th 07 02:03 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.


Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.


I saw a magician (I think it was the Mindfreak guy) get hit with
20,000,000 volts, but they never said how many amps.


D.Duck December 29th 07 02:18 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:01:21 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Happened
at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands
feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in the
ambulance on the way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine
other
than some minor burns on my fingers.


OUCH.....

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)


Wanna bet? :)


Well he damn sure wouldn't admit it!



Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 02:37 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:18:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:01:21 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:lqGdncnIsp2iBujanZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@giganews. com...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Happened
at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands
feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in the
ambulance on the way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine
other
than some minor burns on my fingers.

OUCH.....

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)


Wanna bet? :)


Well he damn sure wouldn't admit it!


Good point.

Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 02:40 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:03:46 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.


Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.


I saw a magician (I think it was the Mindfreak guy) get hit with
20,000,000 volts, but they never said how many amps.


I don't know how true this is, but I've been to a trauma seminar where
the presenter told of a guy who had 100 Kv go through him at a very
low amperage - like milliamps and walked away with only burn marks to
show for it.

Couldn't prove it by me.

John H.[_3_] December 29th 07 03:06 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:58:12 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:11:04 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:24:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...



This biggest single contributor to the horizontal scanning frequency
noise
came for a poorly constructed flyback transformer.


Flashback memory time. I don't know *how* many TV sets, mine and friends,
that I kept alive for a while longer by painting the flyback transformer
with that red, high voltage "Klyptol" stuff. It usually stopped the
hissing
and squealing for a while but eventually the transformer would carbon
track
to ground.

I also would *like* to forget how many of those TV sets threw me on my
rear
because the high voltage section wasn't discharged.

When you think about it, all this new, low voltage computerized stuff is
kinda boring. No challenge at all.

Eisboch


I just gave away a Sony 27" color that I bought in Korea 28 years ago. The
color may have faded somewhat, but it was still good. It had been packed
and shipped about six times. I can't believe how well that thing was made.


Wow, how generous of you...........a 28 year old television. Was that a
Christmas gift to your best friend?


JimH,

You really need to remove your nose from John's ass. And he vis-a-vis
to you.


Not sure what the vis-a-vis means, but I've not responded to JimH in a few
days now.

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 29th 07 03:29 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:03:46 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.

I saw a magician (I think it was the Mindfreak guy) get hit with
20,000,000 volts, but they never said how many amps.


I don't know how true this is, but I've been to a trauma seminar where
the presenter told of a guy who had 100 Kv go through him at a very
low amperage - like milliamps and walked away with only burn marks to
show for it.

Couldn't prove it by me.


I am sorry, I just checked again and he only claimed it was 3 million
volts and he wore a Faraday cage (sp). I don't know if it is real or
not but here is the video:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=21136 431

Larry December 29th 07 04:30 AM

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"D.Duck" wrote in
:

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.




Yeah, but the bleeders were such high resistance the HV usually destroyed
them within a short time. They were just open spark gaps after that...(c;

Larry
--
I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?

Larry December 29th 07 04:49 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in
:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Happened at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my
hands feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up
in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.


I got mine aboard USS Everglades (AD-24), the tender I spent over 3 years
on in the 1960's. Radio 2 had TBK, TBL, TBM and TCS transmitters from
WW2 on them, still. TBK's were powered from Ship's 110V DC off a steam-
powered generator, that also ran the on-deck winches.

I had a TBK tagged out, logged out for maintenance to fix the broken one,
also tagged out properly, making resistance measurements on the HV DC
generator on the good one when an idiot RM2 fired off the genset dispite
the tagout. I woke up a couple of hours later in sick bay staring into
my captain's worried face next to my chief.

The RM2 made RMSM before his transfer went through. My tags were treated
with more respect in Radio Central after that. My captain was NOT
amused.

That generator was rated at 1.5A 3KV continuous duty. I don't know how
much current it was capable of when you were between HV and the chassis
of it. I can attest it was "substantial". Two fingers were burned and
had no feeling for over a year.

Loved those old TBKs. I could call Test Control on Sullivan's Island on
2150 from half way across the Atlantic on 'em with CW and get an
immediate answer of 5-9-9 almost any night to/from the Med...(c; The AM
modulators were added later and were big bulkhead-mounted audio power
amps in that 3000VDC line from the genset. The air around the longwires
glowed blue if you tuned 'em up right....(c;

Larry
--
I was WB4THE in those days, the only ham aboard. My comm officer hated
my guts because our captain thought it was funny to rush into Radio
Central and demand to talk to Charleston from Gibraltar, immediately. Of
course, that wasn't gonna happen on a 500W URC-32 into a 32' whip through
a tuner so inefficient it had to have a cooling fan.

"I'm sorry, Sir. We don't have direct comms with Charleston.", he'd tell
our captain.

"That's crap!", our captain would tell him, "I was just talking to my
wife on James Island through ET1 Butler's Heathkit ham station back in
the cal lab through his buddy's phone patch!"

Hence the comm officer's hatred.....(c;

My homebrew KW amp looked exactly like a Hewlett-Packard 524D freq
counter in the cal lab's rack! Even the neon numbers read 000000000.


Larry December 29th 07 04:50 AM

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"D.Duck" wrote in
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Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)



Marines are terrified of Tesla coils....(c;

Larry
--
I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?

Larry December 29th 07 05:13 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
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I don't know how true this is, but I've been to a trauma seminar where
the presenter told of a guy who had 100 Kv go through him at a very
low amperage - like milliamps and walked away with only burn marks to
show for it.

Couldn't prove it by me.



Voltage means nothing. Current kills. Here's what a few million volts
looks like going through a man with no ill effects:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iO7j5LKmd3I
The only danger is getting an arc HEAT burn, which is why he doesn't arc
it to his fingers...(c;

The Death Cage.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4kXgDBFhw
Of course, inside the cage it doesn't go through you....much.

And the Oklahoma Grandaddy of them all...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30

The Griffith Observatory's Tesla Coil is very educational...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PpBO019hVsc

Larry
--
Notice - RF is very dangerous to your health so don't put your SELLphone
up to your ear as it will cook your brain.....right?


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 29th 07 05:50 AM

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:03:46 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.
I saw a magician (I think it was the Mindfreak guy) get hit with
20,000,000 volts, but they never said how many amps.
I don't know how true this is, but I've been to a trauma seminar where
the presenter told of a guy who had 100 Kv go through him at a very
low amperage - like milliamps and walked away with only burn marks to
show for it.

Couldn't prove it by me.

I am sorry, I just checked again and he only claimed it was 3 million
volts and he wore a Faraday cage (sp). I don't know if it is real or not
but here is the video:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=21136 431



This series of posts defines you Reggie.

You make a claim based on what you call first hand evidence but obviously
based only on misreading the real facts presented in your quick Google
search on the internet.

You are challenged.

You then back peddle and edit your initial claims, with your edited *facts*
being worlds apart from your original facts.

Once again............you relied on your friend Google.

So back to you original and then edited claim...........you really saw that,
eh?


ok, whatever you say.

CalifBill December 29th 07 07:58 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:18:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:01:21 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap.
:-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Happened
at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands
feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in
the
ambulance on the way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine
other
than some minor burns on my fingers.

OUCH.....

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)

Wanna bet? :)


Well he damn sure wouldn't admit it!


Good point.


Air Force guy used a defective meter probe, was actually a strange design
one with a ring partway back from the tip. Checking the 400V DC on an
airborne radar unit, I connected to the 400V. Luckily I missed the work
benches as I made it about 20' from the unit when every muscle in the body
twitched. No lasting damage, but I hurt bad for about 3 days.



CalifBill December 29th 07 08:02 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:03:46 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.

Same here - lower voltage and amperage - 10Kv at about an amp.

Started at my right wrist and out through my finger tips.

What's funny is that every once in a while, the hand feels like it's
twitching really fast, but you can't see it. Another interesting side
effect is that it never seems to warm up - it always feels like it's
cold, but it's not.

Weird.


I saw a magician (I think it was the Mindfreak guy) get hit with
20,000,000 volts, but they never said how many amps.


I don't know how true this is, but I've been to a trauma seminar where
the presenter told of a guy who had 100 Kv go through him at a very
low amperage - like milliamps and walked away with only burn marks to
show for it.

Couldn't prove it by me.


Guy in my reserve unit was a electric company technician. Fell off a ladder
at a substation and barely survived landing on a big capacitor. Burned a
large hole in his chest. I can remember the the GE road show coming to my
highschool and they generated lots of volts and not amps as a static charge
and did not kill anybody. Made the hair standup.



CalifBill December 29th 07 08:06 AM

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"JG2U" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
om...



That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power
supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps. Happened at the
first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands feeling like
basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in the ambulance on
the
way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine other
than some minor burns on my fingers.

Eisboch


Yep... I got bit by a cheap RF amp back in the CB days. No bleeders
on the HV section of a 500 watt amp. Knocked me back a few feet,
burns on my fingers where it entered and exited, and my arm hurt for a
few days.

I learned the ground jumper / screwdiver trick, and practiced it after
that.


In tech school we ran the TACAN on low power, which was 3000V on the tube
caps. And lots of current. We turned down the power on the drawer before
opening and then used a shorting bar to make sure all the caps were
discharged. One day the Vietnamese MAP student started discharging the caps
and sparks flying everywhere. Had not turned off the power. And this guy
had absolutely no business dealing in electricity. Was totally clueless.
Did not even notice things were different with the sparks flying.



D.Duck December 29th 07 08:54 AM

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"Larry" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in
:

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.




Yeah, but the bleeders were such high resistance the HV usually destroyed
them within a short time. They were just open spark gaps after that...(c;

Larry
--
I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?


Huh? The bleeders were 200M ohm in a monochrome display, and no, they did
not destroy themselves within a short time. The resistors are made with
carbon ink deposited on a ceramic substrate. The resistor is potted within
the FBT. Never had one fail and I'm sure they are still working just fine
20 plus years later.




Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 10:46 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:58:33 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:18:03 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:01:21 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:lqGdncnIsp2iBujanZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@giganew s.com...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap.
:-)


After a while I just got used to being the ground.

The worst shock I ever received was from a high power, high voltage DC
power supply. 12,000 volts with current capacity of 1.5 amps.
Happened
at the first job I had after leaving the Navy. I remember my hands
feeling like basketballs, then I went out like a light. Woke up in
the
ambulance on the way to the hospital.

They checked me out, EKG, all that stuff, then determined I was fine
other
than some minor burns on my fingers.

OUCH.....

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)

Wanna bet? :)

Well he damn sure wouldn't admit it!


Good point.


Air Force guy used a defective meter probe, was actually a strange design
one with a ring partway back from the tip. Checking the 400V DC on an
airborne radar unit, I connected to the 400V. Luckily I missed the work
benches as I made it about 20' from the unit when every muscle in the body
twitched. No lasting damage, but I hurt bad for about 3 days.


My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.

Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 10:51 AM

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:13:23 +0000, Larry wrote:

Voltage means nothing. Current kills.


Yes Larry - I think we are all smart enough with some experience in
the area to understand that amps kill.

Eisboch December 29th 07 10:54 AM

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"Larry" wrote in message
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I got mine aboard USS Everglades (AD-24), the tender I spent over 3 years
on in the 1960's. Radio 2 had TBK, TBL, TBM and TCS transmitters from
WW2 on them, still.



I remember the Everglades. It was still in commission when I was on my
first DE in 1969.
Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer and
smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the name of. UCC
something, I think.

The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test bed
for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have been in
1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any more.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 29th 07 12:49 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:13:23 +0000, Larry wrote:

Voltage means nothing. Current kills.


Yes Larry - I think we are all smart enough with some experience in
the area to understand that amps kill.


Larry has been hit with hundreds of of high voltage, low amp electrical
shocks, and it has never hurt him. ;)

D.Duck December 29th 07 01:04 PM

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wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:44:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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I also would *like* to forget how many of those TV sets threw me on my
rear because the high voltage section wasn't discharged.

When you think about it, all this new, low voltage computerized stuff
is
kinda boring. No challenge at all.

Eisboch

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.


Yeah, I remember the bleeder resistors. Where were they when you needed
one?
I also recall trying to do gross convergence adjustments using the rings
on the yoke.
Always half expected to find myself on my ass on the floor again.

Eisboch

Eisboch



That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


???


Satire....



John H.[_3_] December 29th 07 01:30 PM

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:50:47 +0000, Larry wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in
m:

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)



Marines are terrified of Tesla coils....(c;

Larry


If they've been to Vietnam, they know the damn things are poisonous as
hell!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Don White December 29th 07 03:25 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident in
the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/



HK December 29th 07 03:42 PM

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Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident in
the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/




I think the damned things ought to be recalled and stored in a big
warehouse somewhere with electronic voting machines.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

D.Duck December 29th 07 04:32 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:04:27 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:44:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:_6idnQX3AdbTGOjanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews .com...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


I also would *like* to forget how many of those TV sets threw me on
my
rear because the high voltage section wasn't discharged.

When you think about it, all this new, low voltage computerized
stuff
is
kinda boring. No challenge at all.

Eisboch

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.


Yeah, I remember the bleeder resistors. Where were they when you
needed
one?
I also recall trying to do gross convergence adjustments using the
rings
on the yoke.
Always half expected to find myself on my ass on the floor again.

Eisboch

Eisboch


That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


???


Satire....


I missed the "smiley"


8-)



Calif Bill December 29th 07 05:56 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident
in the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/



I think the damned things ought to be recalled and stored in a big
warehouse somewhere with electronic voting machines.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


Then just shoot them with the Gl;ock .40?



Calif Bill December 29th 07 05:59 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:03:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:56:33 -0500, HK wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...poration-Compa
ny-History.html


Eisboch



Hey, these same people buying Bose are buying Apple iPhones, which are
also
crap.

Larry


All I want from a cellphone is a strong signal wherever I am, long
battery life, a volume control that provides plenty of gain so I can
hear what is being said in noisy places, and a way to easily store and
retrieve the phone numbers I call. I don't want no steeeenking camera,
video games, internet access or instant messaging, or any of the other
crap. Concentrate on the damned phone as a phone, dammit.

Yeah, cell phones are as pointless as a GPS. Nobody needs one. Use a
payphone if you need to call someone!



Payphone?
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...ON02/712110315


I guess satire is beyond your limited imagination. Sorry to wake you from
your
nap, Bill.



Just pointing out Payphones are an anachronism. Figured you were napping
when the story appeared.



Larry December 29th 07 08:40 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.


AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

Eisboch December 29th 07 09:18 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.


AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


Larry



I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Eisboch :-)



Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 09:51 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.


AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".


Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.

Vic Smith December 29th 07 11:09 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:51:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
. ..
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.

AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".


Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic

Larry December 29th 07 11:25 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET
types don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Eisboch :-)



Hmm.. Fat kid, kinda short and unmilitary, but always willing and able to
solve the problems the division officer's pets created? Das me!

Just follow the longwire with the biggest corona back to Radio 2 by the
67B cal lab, aft under the helo hangar.

Maybe you saw me over in the salvage yard, too! My truck was easy to
spot with those wide "Admiral" white sidewall tires and the "NAVY-A-Go-
Go" modified sticker in the back window, we made by cutting up the boring
"Go NAVY" ones they handed out. I'm the kid sneakin' 25# cans of Navy
coffee into various warehouses to trade with the supply civvies. How big
a diesel was that you needed? If it's bigger'n an 8V92TA, that'll take a
week or two because we gotta make arrangements for the train to haul it
for ya. You need a starting battery bank to go along with that 32V
system or is yours still in good shape.

HMMMMm.....that fan motor sure sounds kinda rough! Lemme see if I can
get the boys in the Shop 51 motor shop in the Shipyard to put our work
order on top of the pile. They sure liked those shipmade pies I brought
'em when we wanted to get that winch motor rebuilt before the cans left
for the Med last month. I'm sure they'll remember us!...(c;

Yeah, that was probably me that LT was bitching at about my dirty hat.
He'll get his when HIS inspection comes up and HE wants a quicky cal job
ahead of the nice guys...(wink)(wink). PFAT CHANCE.

I must admit, I loved it all....(c; Our repair officer warned people not
to mention to me anything they needed that might have been illegal to
procure, for fear it would show up, unexpectedly, on Pier Papa. "We need
a new (put something here)." I'd turn and head down to the galley for
more coffee and pastries to trade for it. The galley guys appreciated
the shiny stainless steel bulkhead covers I got last year! Sooo....easy
to clean with a damp cloth. Very pretty. Even the admiral thought so
when he saw it! I think the requisition for it said something about
submarines and "reactors", whatever that means....?? Those were magic
words that could get things done for tin can sailors, too!

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

Vic Smith December 29th 07 11:35 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic


Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


What MIG? The 17? But I don't weld. Gives you lung cancer and
hurts your eyes. Anyway, I turned valves and stuff. Pretty good at
it. Only time I talked to the captain was when he sent me to the
brig. Oh, and once I tripped him when I was loafing on a work party.
Guess he thought that just because he was walking by I was supposed to
notice and pull my outstretched legs out his way. Riiiight. Makes
you wonder how they put clumsy people in charge of nuclear armed
ships, but they do.

--Vic

Larry December 29th 07 11:38 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.



There were 3 of us. One was a Machinery Repairman 1st, one was a Chief
Electrician's Mate and l'il ol' me.....(c;

"What size crane are we gonna need to get it off the flatcar onto the
pier??"
Sometimes "logistics" was more of a problem than "procurement". It was
hard to trade for "logistics". A free brand-new 12 cylinder diesel
generator isn't any good if you can't get it home. I often thought they
gave them to us just to see if we could successfully move them out of
salvage.....hee hee. Hmm...we'll need some new switchgear....hmm...

I set a 3/4 ton Dodge power wagon on its tailgate with its big wheels
sticking up on the main drag in front of the Shipyard power house one
day. How embarrassing. There was one too many triwall boxes full of
"gifts" in the bed, hanging over the tailgate. I knew it was a little
light steering when we left the salvage yard after discovering all those
new motors headed for the dump. I backed under the load and we
continued, gingerly, back to our stash going easy on the clutch after
that....(c; We laughed for hours after pulling it off. Those motors
made life on many cans much more bearable that year. FREE always fits in
a ship's budget....(c; I loved stuff that "didn't exist" on some
database and couldn't be traced. Condition R-4 was SUPPOSED to mean it
couldn't be fix and was scrap.....not "traded for coffee" with AD-24.

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

Short Wave Sportfishing December 29th 07 11:55 PM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic


Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.


Well, first you have to get some MIGs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...T-99-04977.JPG

Then you weld them all together.

It's not hard.

Short Wave Sportfishing December 30th 07 12:00 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:38:38 +0000, Larry wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.



There were 3 of us. One was a Machinery Repairman 1st, one was a Chief
Electrician's Mate and l'il ol' me.....(c;

"What size crane are we gonna need to get it off the flatcar onto the
pier??"
Sometimes "logistics" was more of a problem than "procurement". It was
hard to trade for "logistics". A free brand-new 12 cylinder diesel
generator isn't any good if you can't get it home. I often thought they
gave them to us just to see if we could successfully move them out of
salvage.....hee hee. Hmm...we'll need some new switchgear....hmm...

I set a 3/4 ton Dodge power wagon on its tailgate with its big wheels
sticking up on the main drag in front of the Shipyard power house one
day. How embarrassing. There was one too many triwall boxes full of
"gifts" in the bed, hanging over the tailgate. I knew it was a little
light steering when we left the salvage yard after discovering all those
new motors headed for the dump. I backed under the load and we
continued, gingerly, back to our stash going easy on the clutch after
that....(c; We laughed for hours after pulling it off. Those motors
made life on many cans much more bearable that year. FREE always fits in
a ship's budget....(c; I loved stuff that "didn't exist" on some
database and couldn't be traced. Condition R-4 was SUPPOSED to mean it
couldn't be fix and was scrap.....not "traded for coffee" with AD-24.


You know, and I say this as a compliment, reading one of your posts is
like reading a Tom Clancy novel.

"I picked up the AD-24 which was attached to the UDAP 1525 armature
and reversed it in position to the ACT on the LSD parrallel to the
TCH-12 which of course multiplied for FOR to the CE and made mil-spec
coffee."

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 30th 07 01:48 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.
AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;

The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....

I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".


Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.


How else would he had survived in the military.

Dan December 30th 07 02:18 AM

For you smart audiophiles...
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote:

Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo
receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce
30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy?
You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz,
because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy
trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios.
Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since
WW2. It made many billionaires!


Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H
around?

Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is
different.



Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap,
and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound
reproduction?


Where did he say that?


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