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Eisboch December 29th 07 10:54 AM

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"Larry" wrote in message
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I got mine aboard USS Everglades (AD-24), the tender I spent over 3 years
on in the 1960's. Radio 2 had TBK, TBL, TBM and TCS transmitters from
WW2 on them, still.



I remember the Everglades. It was still in commission when I was on my
first DE in 1969.
Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer and
smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the name of. UCC
something, I think.

The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test bed
for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have been in
1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any more.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] December 29th 07 12:49 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:13:23 +0000, Larry wrote:

Voltage means nothing. Current kills.


Yes Larry - I think we are all smart enough with some experience in
the area to understand that amps kill.


Larry has been hit with hundreds of of high voltage, low amp electrical
shocks, and it has never hurt him. ;)

D.Duck December 29th 07 01:04 PM

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wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:44:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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I also would *like* to forget how many of those TV sets threw me on my
rear because the high voltage section wasn't discharged.

When you think about it, all this new, low voltage computerized stuff
is
kinda boring. No challenge at all.

Eisboch

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.


Yeah, I remember the bleeder resistors. Where were they when you needed
one?
I also recall trying to do gross convergence adjustments using the rings
on the yoke.
Always half expected to find myself on my ass on the floor again.

Eisboch

Eisboch



That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


???


Satire....



John H.[_3_] December 29th 07 01:30 PM

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:50:47 +0000, Larry wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in
m:

Now a Marine would never pull a stunt like that. :-)



Marines are terrified of Tesla coils....(c;

Larry


If they've been to Vietnam, they know the damn things are poisonous as
hell!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Don White December 29th 07 03:25 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident in
the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/



HK December 29th 07 03:42 PM

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Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident in
the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/




I think the damned things ought to be recalled and stored in a big
warehouse somewhere with electronic voting machines.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

D.Duck December 29th 07 04:32 PM

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wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:04:27 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:44:33 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:_6idnQX3AdbTGOjanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews .com...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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I also would *like* to forget how many of those TV sets threw me on
my
rear because the high voltage section wasn't discharged.

When you think about it, all this new, low voltage computerized
stuff
is
kinda boring. No challenge at all.

Eisboch

In deflection circuits I designed the FBT had a bleeder resistor, to
improve regulation and discharge the CRT.


Yeah, I remember the bleeder resistors. Where were they when you
needed
one?
I also recall trying to do gross convergence adjustments using the
rings
on the yoke.
Always half expected to find myself on my ass on the floor again.

Eisboch

Eisboch


That's why you should always be wearing your grounded wrist strap. :-)


???


Satire....


I missed the "smiley"


8-)



Calif Bill December 29th 07 05:56 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
My youngest son had to go through taser training a couple of months
ago. First you have to zap yourself, then have somebody zap you.

Said it the pain was unbelievable - took at least a couple of days to
work out the kinks.



A lot of controversy about tazers up here..after a well publized incident
in the Vancouver airport and a couple of local deaths.
http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/...rt-dziekanski/



I think the damned things ought to be recalled and stored in a big
warehouse somewhere with electronic voting machines.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!


Then just shoot them with the Gl;ock .40?



Calif Bill December 29th 07 05:59 PM

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wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:03:03 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:56:33 -0500, HK wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Bitty Bose speaker systems may be crap, but the ol' Doc has done
pretty well:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...poration-Compa
ny-History.html


Eisboch



Hey, these same people buying Bose are buying Apple iPhones, which are
also
crap.

Larry


All I want from a cellphone is a strong signal wherever I am, long
battery life, a volume control that provides plenty of gain so I can
hear what is being said in noisy places, and a way to easily store and
retrieve the phone numbers I call. I don't want no steeeenking camera,
video games, internet access or instant messaging, or any of the other
crap. Concentrate on the damned phone as a phone, dammit.

Yeah, cell phones are as pointless as a GPS. Nobody needs one. Use a
payphone if you need to call someone!



Payphone?
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...ON02/712110315


I guess satire is beyond your limited imagination. Sorry to wake you from
your
nap, Bill.



Just pointing out Payphones are an anachronism. Figured you were napping
when the story appeared.



Larry December 29th 07 08:40 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in
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Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.


AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


Larry
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