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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in
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Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.

AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....


Larry


I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Eisboch :-)

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.

AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....

I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:51:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
. ..
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.

AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;


The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....

I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.

Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic

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"Eisboch" wrote in
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I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET
types don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Eisboch :-)



Hmm.. Fat kid, kinda short and unmilitary, but always willing and able to
solve the problems the division officer's pets created? Das me!

Just follow the longwire with the biggest corona back to Radio 2 by the
67B cal lab, aft under the helo hangar.

Maybe you saw me over in the salvage yard, too! My truck was easy to
spot with those wide "Admiral" white sidewall tires and the "NAVY-A-Go-
Go" modified sticker in the back window, we made by cutting up the boring
"Go NAVY" ones they handed out. I'm the kid sneakin' 25# cans of Navy
coffee into various warehouses to trade with the supply civvies. How big
a diesel was that you needed? If it's bigger'n an 8V92TA, that'll take a
week or two because we gotta make arrangements for the train to haul it
for ya. You need a starting battery bank to go along with that 32V
system or is yours still in good shape.

HMMMMm.....that fan motor sure sounds kinda rough! Lemme see if I can
get the boys in the Shop 51 motor shop in the Shipyard to put our work
order on top of the pile. They sure liked those shipmade pies I brought
'em when we wanted to get that winch motor rebuilt before the cans left
for the Med last month. I'm sure they'll remember us!...(c;

Yeah, that was probably me that LT was bitching at about my dirty hat.
He'll get his when HIS inspection comes up and HE wants a quicky cal job
ahead of the nice guys...(wink)(wink). PFAT CHANCE.

I must admit, I loved it all....(c; Our repair officer warned people not
to mention to me anything they needed that might have been illegal to
procure, for fear it would show up, unexpectedly, on Pier Papa. "We need
a new (put something here)." I'd turn and head down to the galley for
more coffee and pastries to trade for it. The galley guys appreciated
the shiny stainless steel bulkhead covers I got last year! Sooo....easy
to clean with a damp cloth. Very pretty. Even the admiral thought so
when he saw it! I think the requisition for it said something about
submarines and "reactors", whatever that means....?? Those were magic
words that could get things done for tin can sailors, too!

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic

Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.

What MIG? The 17? But I don't weld. Gives you lung cancer and
hurts your eyes. Anyway, I turned valves and stuff. Pretty good at
it. Only time I talked to the captain was when he sent me to the
brig. Oh, and once I tripped him when I was loafing on a work party.
Guess he thought that just because he was walking by I was supposed to
notice and pull my outstretched legs out his way. Riiiight. Makes
you wonder how they put clumsy people in charge of nuclear armed
ships, but they do.

--Vic

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
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Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.



There were 3 of us. One was a Machinery Repairman 1st, one was a Chief
Electrician's Mate and l'il ol' me.....(c;

"What size crane are we gonna need to get it off the flatcar onto the
pier??"
Sometimes "logistics" was more of a problem than "procurement". It was
hard to trade for "logistics". A free brand-new 12 cylinder diesel
generator isn't any good if you can't get it home. I often thought they
gave them to us just to see if we could successfully move them out of
salvage.....hee hee. Hmm...we'll need some new switchgear....hmm...

I set a 3/4 ton Dodge power wagon on its tailgate with its big wheels
sticking up on the main drag in front of the Shipyard power house one
day. How embarrassing. There was one too many triwall boxes full of
"gifts" in the bed, hanging over the tailgate. I knew it was a little
light steering when we left the salvage yard after discovering all those
new motors headed for the dump. I backed under the load and we
continued, gingerly, back to our stash going easy on the clutch after
that....(c; We laughed for hours after pulling it off. Those motors
made life on many cans much more bearable that year. FREE always fits in
a ship's budget....(c; I loved stuff that "didn't exist" on some
database and couldn't be traced. Condition R-4 was SUPPOSED to mean it
couldn't be fix and was scrap.....not "traded for coffee" with AD-24.

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:09:42 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:


Only for the pansy stuff. I did the boilers.

--Vic

Yeah? Can you weld? I need someone to give me some pointers on MIG
welding.

Well, first you have to get some MIGs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...T-99-04977.JPG

Then you weld them all together.

It's not hard.

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:38:38 +0000, Larry wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.



There were 3 of us. One was a Machinery Repairman 1st, one was a Chief
Electrician's Mate and l'il ol' me.....(c;

"What size crane are we gonna need to get it off the flatcar onto the
pier??"
Sometimes "logistics" was more of a problem than "procurement". It was
hard to trade for "logistics". A free brand-new 12 cylinder diesel
generator isn't any good if you can't get it home. I often thought they
gave them to us just to see if we could successfully move them out of
salvage.....hee hee. Hmm...we'll need some new switchgear....hmm...

I set a 3/4 ton Dodge power wagon on its tailgate with its big wheels
sticking up on the main drag in front of the Shipyard power house one
day. How embarrassing. There was one too many triwall boxes full of
"gifts" in the bed, hanging over the tailgate. I knew it was a little
light steering when we left the salvage yard after discovering all those
new motors headed for the dump. I backed under the load and we
continued, gingerly, back to our stash going easy on the clutch after
that....(c; We laughed for hours after pulling it off. Those motors
made life on many cans much more bearable that year. FREE always fits in
a ship's budget....(c; I loved stuff that "didn't exist" on some
database and couldn't be traced. Condition R-4 was SUPPOSED to mean it
couldn't be fix and was scrap.....not "traded for coffee" with AD-24.

You know, and I say this as a compliment, reading one of your posts is
like reading a Tom Clancy novel.

"I picked up the AD-24 which was attached to the UDAP 1525 armature
and reversed it in position to the ACT on the LSD parrallel to the
TCH-12 which of course multiplied for FOR to the CE and made mil-spec
coffee."

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in
:

Those DE's had three old AN/FRT-39 transmitters plus a pair of newer
and smaller transmitters with auto tuning that I can't remember the
name of. UCC something, I think.
AN/URT-23(A). The transmitter was a low powered lookalike for the R-1051
receiver and had a 400-cycle, 3-phase 480VAC powered pair of 4CX1500
ceramic tetrodes feeding a giant turrent of 1 Mhz tuning circuits that
was motor driven. Typical military operation, 5000 watts in, 500 watts
out. It was tied to the tuning in the little transmitter. Navy and CG
is still using it.

I got paid big money from a Navy Benny Sugg I submitted. The 400 Hz
cooling fan in the AM-2123 amp sounded like a 747 with all 4 engines wide
open for heavy takeoff just deafening radiomen. CG had a solution with
this little plastic right-angled cover that had soft foam to muffle the
sound inside it some contractor got rich off of. My Sugg was for the
Navy to buy it, making Radio LOTS quieter. NAVSEA agreed as the solution
was not too technical for their bureaucrats to understand. I don't
remember what the check was, but it was thousands...(c;

The first DE I was on, USS VanVoorhis (DE-2028) also became a test
bed for "Sat Nav", the early version of GPS. I think this would have
been in 1969 or '70, but my brain doesn't remember all the details any
more.


That would have been Omega, I believe, a GPS predecessor. It worked, but
GPS was much improved.

I was on Everglades from 66 to 69, finally transferred off to MINELANT,
CHARLESTON to start a new Qualification Lab with one other cal tech at
Mine Force Support Group, Atlantic on the S end of the Navy Base
Charleston by the MINELANT HQ and MSO piers.

MSO HF transmitters had a "grounditis" problem on the wooden ships.
Everything, of course, had to have these huge ground straps to all metal
rails and anything else they could ground tied to the bilges. They were
GREAT HF antennas! One sailor was nearly killed when someone keyed the
URC-32's 500W HF RTTY mode because he was between two differently-
grounded handrails. At this frequency, one handrail had several hundred
volts DIFFERENCE with the other one because of the different ground paths
making HF antennas, open on the top as far as HF was concerned. IT fried
his hands! The ham in the shop, I was called on to help figure out why.
After looking at the stupid grounding system meant to keep 60 Hz
grounded, it was easy to spot. I added an RF choke across a gap in each
ground strap right at the handrail and it vanished.....another benny sugg
submitted...another fine check of the taxpayer's money quickly cashed...
(c;

They sent me to the MED on an MSO just to get rid of me for a while.
Chow lines are short on MSOs offshore! They only have a 6-7' draft, you
know! No stabilizing mainsail, either! God that thing could get rid of
diesel fuel quickly in those twin Packard monsters....
I think I know you. Or someone just like you. Us common, lowly ET types
don't quickly forget the Navy's "SuperTechs".

Sounds like Larry was the Navy's go to guy for tough problems.

How else would he had survived in the military.

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HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:47:59 +0000, Larry wrote:

Armed with this information, why would you buy a $5000 stereo
receiver that has a frequency response so wonderful it can reproduce
30 Khz to drive the neighbor's ultrasonic-hearing dogs just crazy?
You also don't need a $1200 woofer that can reproduce 10-50 Hz,
because the only thing down there is turntable rumble and a few heavy
trucks rattling FM detector's tuned circuits, in older radios.
Shhh...this farce has been successfully sold the the public since
WW2. It made many billionaires!

Anybody notice that Larry is just like Harry if you change the L and H
around?

Same attitudes, same theory system - same everything only the focus is
different.


Really? Does Larry also think the bitty Bose speaker systems are crap,
and that you cannot violate the laws of physics when it comes to sound
reproduction?

Where did he say that?