Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get around 2
cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple acc
compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.

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The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these toys.
Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I think it's a
mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo system, even if this
means getting rid of his roommate to make space in the dorm room. The
prince doesn't agree.

The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model this
Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down $400.00 +
taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.



If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music to
an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from CDs
for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So, at least
he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's listening with
earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to get him a set of
nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but he's not interested.

He's always right, ya know?

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

You can have both. I feed my full size stereo set up from one of these
http://www.slimdevices.com and have my entire 700 cd collection on a second
hard drive in my pc.


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The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these toys.
Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I think it's a
mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo system, even if this
means getting rid of his roommate to make space in the dorm room. The
prince doesn't agree.

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

jamesgangnc wrote:
Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get around 2
cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple acc
compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.

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The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these toys.
Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I think it's a
mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo system, even if this
means getting rid of his roommate to make space in the dorm room. The
prince doesn't agree.
The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model this
Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down $400.00 +
taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.


If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music to
an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from CDs
for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So, at least
he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's listening with
earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to get him a set of
nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but he's not interested.

He's always right, ya know?





MP4 320 kbps

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

Still lossy. I haven't found anyone that could really tell the difference
though. The problem comes in when you want to switch formats from one lossy
to another lossy. That's why it's always better to go back to the original
uncompressed source. Also why I very seldom buy music off itunes, because
then you never get a copy of the uncompressed song.

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jamesgangnc wrote:
Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get around
2 cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple acc
compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Like this:
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The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these
toys. Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I
think it's a mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo
system, even if this means getting rid of his roommate to make space
in the dorm room. The prince doesn't agree.
The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model
this Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down
$400.00 + taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.


If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music
to an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from
CDs for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So, at
least he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's listening
with earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to get him a
set of nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but he's not
interested.

He's always right, ya know?





MP4 320 kbps

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Like this:
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The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these toys.
Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I think it's
a mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo system, even if
this means getting rid of his roommate to make space in the dorm room.
The prince doesn't agree.

The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model
this Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down $400.00
+ taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.



If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music
to an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from
CDs for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So, at
least he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's listening
with earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to get him a
set of nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but he's not
interested.

He's always right, ya know?


Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get around
2 cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple acc
compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.



That's why I included the words "that he's applied". Although we have
different purposes in mind when we rip a CD, we both begin use Windows Media
Player as our starting point, with options set to do the least damage to the
files. Even if it's doing a little compression in that process, my ears
still tell me the results are better than some of what he downloads or
shares with friends.

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:08:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:41:53 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


If he was using Kazaa, chances are good that he paid even when he didn't
think he was paying. So many people's computers were turned useless by
Kazaa's spyware, and required reformatting/OS reinstall. Lots of geeks
made
money doing that for customers.

Yeah, that's the one. My son was home then, and put it on my
computer, which was the only one in the house. Being a geek, I fixed
it myself with no reinstall. And he got his first computer.

--Vic


I did a clean reformat/reinstall for the parents of a friend of my son's.
The computer was trashed by spyware. A week later, trashed again. Fixed it
again, but this time, I got paid for the work, with $100 worth of tools
from
the father's Snap-On truck. You'd think that would've made the parents
more
vigilant. Nope. The computer was phuqued again about a month later. Their
solution: Buy a new computer. Duh.


Snap-On? That's about one screwdriver.

.....and a refrigerator magnet with the dealer's phone number on it. :-)

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

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jamesgangnc wrote:
Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get
around 2 cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple
acc compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Like this:
http://www.alteclansing.com/index.ph...iproduct_id=64

or:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/iHome...oductDetail.do

The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these
toys. Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I
think it's a mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo
system, even if this means getting rid of his roommate to make space
in the dorm room. The prince doesn't agree.
The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model
this Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down
$400.00 + taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.


If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music
to an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from
CDs for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So,
at least he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's
listening with earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to
get him a set of nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but
he's not interested.

He's always right, ya know?


MP4 320 kbps


Still lossy. I haven't found anyone that could really tell the difference
though. The problem comes in when you want to switch formats from one
lossy to another lossy. That's why it's always better to go back to the
original uncompressed source. Also why I very seldom buy music off
itunes, because then you never get a copy of the uncompressed song.



At the "better settings", it's difficult to tell the difference. And,
whether it matters or not often depends on the purpose of the file you're
creating. If I need to send a song to a band member, to settle the "Are we
talking about the same song here?" question, and he's one of these people
whose email is always close to fill, I'll shrink a 15mb song down to 1mb. It
sounds hideous, but at least I get the answer I'm looking for.

If I have to listen to that same song on my stereo every day for a week,
while learning it, then it has to be the original or very close to it.
Otherwise, it grates on my nerves.

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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That's why I included the words "that he's applied". Although we have
different purposes in mind when we rip a CD, we both begin use Windows
Media Player as our starting point, with options set to do the least
damage to the files. Even if it's doing a little compression in that
process, my ears still tell me the results are better than some of what he
downloads or shares with friends.


I recently set up a music system using a pair of SL3 Martin-Logan's that
have been stored away since we moved into this house because I didn't have a
good room to set them up properly in. I decided to do the surround thing as
well and bought a new Denon receiver/amp, some Mirage surrounds and, believe
it or not, a decent sounding Bose center channel speaker.

Immediately ran into the problem I discovered the last time I used these
speakers. Many of the CDs that sound ok on a couple of other systems we
have using conventional speaker drivers sound terrible on the
electrostatics. But, the "good" ones sound spectacular, showing off the
acoustically transparent nature of this type of speaker.

Then, to my surprise, I found a royalty free, MP3 version Sousa's "Stars
and Stripes Forever" somewhere on the 'net. It was reported to be a high
quality file, recorded at a higher than normal bit rate, (don't remember
what it was). Anyway, I burned it to a CD and it sounds excellent. Lots
of dynamic range and you can clearly hear every instrument being played.
In terms of fidelity, it's better than half the commercially produced CDs I
have.

Eisboch

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

Ok, so what settings are you considering close to the original? And what
equipment do you run it through?

I'm using just 256kb mp4 and running it through a dbx223 crossover set at
700hz driving an adcom 555 amp for the woofers and an adcom 535 amp for the
midbass and ribbon tweeters. And I can't really tell any difference between
the uncompressed and the mp4.

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jamesgangnc wrote:
Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get
around 2 cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple
acc compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Like this:
http://www.alteclansing.com/index.ph...iproduct_id=64

or:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/iHome...oductDetail.do

The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these
toys. Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I
think it's a mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo
system, even if this means getting rid of his roommate to make space
in the dorm room. The prince doesn't agree.
The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model
this Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down
$400.00 + taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.


If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod
is probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the
music to an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled
directly from CDs for the most part, without any compression that he's
applied. So, at least he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But
then, he's listening with earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I
offered to get him a set of nice Sennheiser 400-series open air
headphones, but he's not interested.

He's always right, ya know?


MP4 320 kbps


Still lossy. I haven't found anyone that could really tell the
difference though. The problem comes in when you want to switch formats
from one lossy to another lossy. That's why it's always better to go
back to the original uncompressed source. Also why I very seldom buy
music off itunes, because then you never get a copy of the uncompressed
song.



At the "better settings", it's difficult to tell the difference. And,
whether it matters or not often depends on the purpose of the file you're
creating. If I need to send a song to a band member, to settle the "Are we
talking about the same song here?" question, and he's one of these people
whose email is always close to fill, I'll shrink a 15mb song down to 1mb.
It sounds hideous, but at least I get the answer I'm looking for.

If I have to listen to that same song on my stereo every day for a week,
while learning it, then it has to be the original or very close to it.
Otherwise, it grates on my nerves.

Anyone got a docking thing for an iPod?
 

The itunes acc format is actually considered to be better at the same rate
than mp3. Mp3 is pretty old now.

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Like this:
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or:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/iHome...oductDetail.do

The heir to my fortune and empire is apparently enamored of these
toys. Interested in feedback if you've got something like this. I
think it's a mistake and that a guy should have an actual stereo
system, even if this means getting rid of his roommate to make space
in the dorm room. The prince doesn't agree.

The 'kids' are hoked on the iPods or reasonable facimilie.
No point fighting it.
My son has had one for a couple of years , and asked for a new model
this Christmas. Of course his mom ran right out and plopped down
$400.00 + taxes for it.
It was a lot cheaper back in the days of the old 45s.



If we eliminate HD radio from the discussion for the moment, an iPod is
probably no worse than listening to FM radio, which munges up the music
to an extent. My son's at least using music files pulled directly from
CDs for the most part, without any compression that he's applied. So, at
least he's not at the mercy of radio stations. But then, he's listening
with earbuds, which suck, according to my ears. I offered to get him a
set of nice Sennheiser 400-series open air headphones, but he's not
interested.

He's always right, ya know?


Without any compression? Are you sure about that. Cause the lossless
formats only achieve about a 70% reduction in file size so you get around
2 cds or so per gig. Default ripping with itunes uses the apple acc
compression which is a lossy algorythm. Mp3 is also lossy.



That's why I included the words "that he's applied". Although we have
different purposes in mind when we rip a CD, we both begin use Windows
Media Player as our starting point, with options set to do the least
damage to the files. Even if it's doing a little compression in that
process, my ears still tell me the results are better than some of what he
downloads or shares with friends.