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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:13:34 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:41:07 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Real men live in the analog world. :)

That's a self-contradictory sentence, isn't it?

Analog men live in an analog world. Real men live in a real world.

Hmmmm - contextually you are incorrect.

As a general statement of "being", you are correct. :)

... And digital men live in a two-bit world!

ROTFL!!

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:20:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

By the way, I discovered something amazing yesterday. You know how some good
labels contain warnings about ingredients some people might be sensitive to?
Get this: On the back of a bottle of La Choy soy sauce: CONTAINS SOY

I'm going to investigate further. I was shocked.

Damn - it actually contained soy?

Wow...

What next - admitting that a jar of Planters Dry Roasted Peanuts
contain peanuts? :)

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:20:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

By the way, I discovered something amazing yesterday. You know how some
good
labels contain warnings about ingredients some people might be sensitive
to?
Get this: On the back of a bottle of La Choy soy sauce: CONTAINS SOY

I'm going to investigate further. I was shocked.

Damn - it actually contained soy?

Wow...

What next - admitting that a jar of Planters Dry Roasted Peanuts
contain peanuts? :)


Yeah. I'm callin' the guvmint about this.

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On Dec 21, 9:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:08:42 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc





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On Dec 21, 8:41*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:33:03 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc

wrote:
And there's what is wrong with tube amps. *Tubes are fundamentally
voltage amplifiers while speakers are current devices. *To solve this
mismatch any tube amp has to have a big honking transformer in between
the output circuit and the speaker.

Blah, blah, blah.

Anybody and everybody with a smidgen of listening ability agrees that
transformer/tube nexus is the best quality listening experience -
there is nothing in the digital world that can match it.

Real men live in the analog world. *:)

All quality power amps are still analog. *And they're still class a or
class ab. *That's got nothing to do with the tube/transistor debate.
No one would argue with the fact that the class d switching amps kids
are putting in cars have terrible specs and terrible sound. *Digital
is how you store your music and if you're still using analog storage
then you're just stupid.

And some of the tube purests are bi-amping these days and running a
transistor amp for the lows. *I won't argue that a lot of people
prefer the warmer sound produced by tube amps. *But tube amps have
problems with the lows, it's the physics of the output transformer and
that's just unavoidable. *If all you ever listen to is elevator music
predominately between 1khz and 10khz then tube amps are fine. * But
you try to push any amount of 20hz through a tube amp and you're going
to run into transformer saturation. *When the rest of your signal is
riding on top of that 20hz then it gets impacted as well.

I know - Just arguing because I'm bored. *:)- Hide quoted text -

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I'd like to try a tube amp in place of my 535 but they are just so
expensive even used.

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On Dec 21, 9:34*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Dec 21, 9:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:08:42 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc

wrote:
On Dec 21, 8:41*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:33:03 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc

wrote:
And there's what is wrong with tube amps. *Tubes are fundamentally
voltage amplifiers while speakers are current devices. *To solve this
mismatch any tube amp has to have a big honking transformer in between
the output circuit and the speaker.

Blah, blah, blah.

Anybody and everybody with a smidgen of listening ability agrees that
transformer/tube nexus is the best quality listening experience -
there is nothing in the digital world that can match it.

Real men live in the analog world. *:)

All quality power amps are still analog. *And they're still class a or
class ab. *That's got nothing to do with the tube/transistor debate.
No one would argue with the fact that the class d switching amps kids
are putting in cars have terrible specs and terrible sound. *Digital
is how you store your music and if you're still using analog storage
then you're just stupid.

And some of the tube purests are bi-amping these days and running a
transistor amp for the lows. *I won't argue that a lot of people
prefer the warmer sound produced by tube amps. *But tube amps have
problems with the lows, it's the physics of the output transformer and
that's just unavoidable. *If all you ever listen to is elevator music
predominately between 1khz and 10khz then tube amps are fine. * But
you try to push any amount of 20hz through a tube amp and you're going
to run into transformer saturation. *When the rest of your signal is
riding on top of that 20hz then it gets impacted as well.

I know - Just arguing because I'm bored. *:)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd like to try a tube amp in place of my 535 but they are just so
expensive even used.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, and THE definitive system test music: Pink Floyd - Money

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:32:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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Last I heard, Bose was more interested in figuring out electronic
automotive suspensions. Selling outrageously overpriced boomboxes and
clock radios probably just funds the research for that.



One product that apparently is very good is their noise canceling
headsets.
They advertise the commercial versions but they also supply to the
military.

Eisboch


Their clock radio and boombox are nice too. Just not any better than
similar offerings from other manufacturers, and not worth anywhere
near what they sell them for. Sorta like DeBeers and how they market
diamonds. They created a myth and some suckers feel honored to be a
part of the cult.



I know. I am married to one.

Eisboch

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"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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All quality power amps are still analog. And they're still class a or
class ab. That's got nothing to do with the tube/transistor debate.
No one would argue with the fact that the class d switching amps kids
are putting in cars have terrible specs and terrible sound. Digital
is how you store your music and if you're still using analog storage
then you're just stupid.

And some of the tube purests are bi-amping these days and running a
transistor amp for the lows. I won't argue that a lot of people
prefer the warmer sound produced by tube amps. But tube amps have
problems with the lows, it's the physics of the output transformer and
that's just unavoidable. If all you ever listen to is elevator music
predominately between 1khz and 10khz then tube amps are fine. But
you try to push any amount of 20hz through a tube amp and you're going
to run into transformer saturation. When the rest of your signal is
riding on top of that 20hz then it gets impacted as well.

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I use a conventional receiver/amp. (Denon) I use it's circuitry to decode
the Dolby, DTS or THX signal, power the center channel and surrounds and use
the subwoofer line output to feed the bass or LFE to a self powered 15"
Velodyne sub. I don't power the mains with the Denon. I take the mains
preamp output and currently feed a 150w/channel B&K Components power amp.
It drives the Martin-Logan mains. I've been experimenting with
disconnecting the conventional woofers built into the Martin-Logan's and
driving the electrostatic section only. The trick is to get the crossover
setting right in the sub output so there's a nice, seamless transition.

I'd love to get a hold of a decent pair (or two channel) vacuum tube power
amp in the 75-100 watt range and try it instead of the B&K amp. I don't
know how it would sound though because the impedance of electrostatics goes
down as the frequency goes up, just the opposite of a conventional speaker.
I've forgotten the exact value but at something like 18,000 Hz, the
electrostatics are approaching 1 ohm or less.

I am also going to steal the SACD player currently hooked up to another
system in another room. I have to wait until Mrs.E. isn't paying
attention.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:32:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
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Last I heard, Bose was more interested in figuring out electronic
automotive suspensions. Selling outrageously overpriced boomboxes and
clock radios probably just funds the research for that.



One product that apparently is very good is their noise canceling
headsets.
They advertise the commercial versions but they also supply to the
military.

Eisboch


Their clock radio and boombox are nice too. Just not any better than
similar offerings from other manufacturers, and not worth anywhere
near what they sell them for. Sorta like DeBeers and how they market
diamonds. They created a myth and some suckers feel honored to be a
part of the cult.



I know. I am married to one.

Eisboch

Ouch! I thought Mrs. E lurked here on occasion.
I'd wait until after Christmas before saying too much! ;-)

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:21:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I'd love to get a hold of a decent pair (or two channel) vacuum tube power
amp in the 75-100 watt range and try it instead of the B&K amp.

Wanna try a couple of Mac 50s?

I have two I that I haven't reinstalled when I moved my stereo system
to the office.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:53:17 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:49:18 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Hey, John, totally off topic, but since you are using Agent.....

your post and the ones threading under it have attached themselves to
the middle of a really old thread from 2004 "Wouldn't you rather have
a Bush?"



Are you seeing similar behavior?

No, I'm seeing them attached to the thread: Anyone got a docking thing
for an Ipod.

I've not seen the 'Bush' thread anywhere.
--
John H