On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:15:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:47 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:58:22 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:34:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

IMHO money well spent if you plan on keeping it for a while. The
increased reliability alone is worth quite a bit to me. Several times
I have resolved to never again own an american made automotive
product. This time I mean it. :-)

Well, I will say that I am really disappointed in my new F-150.

As in VERY disappointed.

However, to Ford's credit, they have stood behind it to the tune of
$13,000 worth of new drive train - engine, transmission, drive shaft,
transfer case and rear end. Plus new cat converters. And gave me a
full 100,000 mile transferable drivetrain warranty in the bargin.

Can't complain about their service.

OK, besides the obvious, how was everything else with the F150?

Fine - can't complain. Leather interior, audio system, moonroof, very
comfortable - all digital this and that - plenty of interior room,
drives great, handles well in bad weather.

It just doens't have any power - and I've got the 5.4 thingy doer with
the plow/tow package.

Oddly, that same package in the FX4 edition, tows my boat just fine -
no problem.

It's totally wierd.

Maybe it is a California Engine. My 99 Expedition was a dog.

You know, I didn't think of that.

Hmmmm....

On Dec 17, 6:29 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:15:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"





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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:59:47 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:58:22 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:34:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

IMHO money well spent if you plan on keeping it for a while. The
increased reliability alone is worth quite a bit to me. Several times
I have resolved to never again own an american made automotive
product. This time I mean it. :-)

Well, I will say that I am really disappointed in my new F-150.

As in VERY disappointed.

However, to Ford's credit, they have stood behind it to the tune of
$13,000 worth of new drive train - engine, transmission, drive shaft,
transfer case and rear end. Plus new cat converters. And gave me a
full 100,000 mile transferable drivetrain warranty in the bargin.

Can't complain about their service.

OK, besides the obvious, how was everything else with the F150?

Fine - can't complain. Leather interior, audio system, moonroof, very
comfortable - all digital this and that - plenty of interior room,
drives great, handles well in bad weather.

It just doens't have any power - and I've got the 5.4 thingy doer with
the plow/tow package.

Oddly, that same package in the FX4 edition, tows my boat just fine -
no problem.

It's totally wierd.

Maybe it is a California Engine. My 99 Expedition was a dog.

You know, I didn't think of that.

Hmmmm....- Hide quoted text -

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might be just the thing for a performance chip in the computer. Maybe
Bill is right. but the dealer ought to be able to do some tricks to
the trucks onboard computer by using their laptop. Amazing what one
can do with electronics nowdays.

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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:15:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


It just doens't have any power - and I've got the 5.4 thingy doer with
the plow/tow package.

Oddly, that same package in the FX4 edition, tows my boat just fine -
no problem.

It's totally wierd.

Maybe it is a California Engine. My 99 Expedition was a dog.

You know, I didn't think of that.

Hmmmm....

That's a real possibility, Tom. Some vehicle inventory in this area *are*
equipped with California emissions. Even the new Harley-Davidsons touring
bikes are subject to California emission standards which is controlled by
the vehicle's computer. The 2007 models came with or without in this area
and when I bought mine it fortunately came "without". Those equipped with
the CA systems are reported to be dogs and run hot.

Eisboch