On Dec 17, 1:18 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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On the other hand, if I could get out of my lease early, I'd buy one of
the regular cab EF? 4 cylinder manual versions they're selling here for
less than $13K.
My towing needs are pretty modest now with the aluminum Princecraft.

Speaking of Rangers, I am seriously thinking of taking the hit and trading
mine back for a full sized truck again.
I had determined that I really didn't need the last one I had, a Ford F-350
PS diesel and traded it for the '07 Ranger "Level II" 4x4. Although it's a
nice little truck and is adequately powered with the 4.0L V6, I still miss
the oomph of a V8 or diesel. It also gets about the same mpg as the F-350
diesel, in fact if anything, it gets slightly less miles per gallon overall.
With it's small fuel tank it seems like I am always looking for a gas
station. The F-350 was good for over 400 miles per tank. Economy wise, the
two trucks are probably equal since diesel is more expensive than gas.

My son, who had a F-250 with the gas guzzling V10, traded it for a F-150 4x4
with the smaller V8. I rode it in the other day and was very impressed with
it's ride, room and power. My brother has a newer Ram 1500 4x4 which also
is a nice riding truck although the gas mileage of the mini-hemi leaves
something to be desired.

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never had one.

Eisboch

What cracks me up is these 150 class trucks with the huge tires and
lift kits sitting two feet off the ground from the factory. As if
these white collar weenies around here were gonna' take em' off road.
Even worse is a clean Hummer, what a frekin' waste. The one constant
there was in the paint of all my jeeps was scratches

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Don White wrote:
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:18:00 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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On the other hand, if I could get out of my lease early, I'd buy
one of the regular cab EF? 4 cylinder manual versions they're
selling here for less than $13K.
My towing needs are pretty modest now with the aluminum
Princecraft.

Speaking of Rangers, I am seriously thinking of taking the hit and
trading mine back for a full sized truck again.
I had determined that I really didn't need the last one I had, a
Ford F-350 PS diesel and traded it for the '07 Ranger "Level II"
4x4. Although it's a nice little truck and is adequately powered
with the 4.0L V6, I still miss the oomph of a V8 or diesel. It also
gets about the same mpg as the F-350 diesel, in fact if anything, it
gets slightly less miles per gallon overall. With it's small fuel
tank it seems like I am always looking for a gas station. The F-350
was good for over 400 miles per tank. Economy wise, the two trucks
are probably equal since diesel is more expensive than gas.

My son, who had a F-250 with the gas guzzling V10, traded it for a
F-150 4x4 with the smaller V8. I rode it in the other day and was
very impressed with it's ride, room and power. My brother has a
newer Ram 1500 4x4 which also is a nice riding truck although the
gas mileage of the mini-hemi leaves something to be desired.

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never
had one.

Eisboch
Check out the new Tundras. Smoooooooooth. Two different V8s, including
the same one I have in my 4Runner. Trouble free, quiet, comfy. Much
more refined on the inside than the Ford or GM trucks.
A Tundra may be in my future.

In addition to the 4Runner?

Once you start, you can't stop. They're worse than potato chips.

Now that the auto people are starting to acknowledge the strength of the
loonie vs. the yankee dollah, I could lease a regular cab 2x4 Tundra for
$20.00 more per month than my Ranger. That's the truck I wanted in the
first place before they ruined it by American sizing it.
A lot of us city people don't want or need a honking big truck to run
around town.
The smaller Toyota trucks look pretty nice, too. Never owned one, but
there are lots around, plain and fancy.


I checked out the Tacoma a couple of years ago but didn't like the cab.
Seemed like the roof was too low over your head and it had a closed in feel.
Also..they only come in an extended cab version.... no regular cabs.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:36:13 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:18:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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On the other hand, if I could get out of my lease early, I'd buy one of
the regular cab EF? 4 cylinder manual versions they're selling here for
less than $13K.
My towing needs are pretty modest now with the aluminum Princecraft.

Speaking of Rangers, I am seriously thinking of taking the hit and trading
mine back for a full sized truck again.
I had determined that I really didn't need the last one I had, a Ford F-350
PS diesel and traded it for the '07 Ranger "Level II" 4x4. Although it's a
nice little truck and is adequately powered with the 4.0L V6, I still miss
the oomph of a V8 or diesel. It also gets about the same mpg as the F-350
diesel, in fact if anything, it gets slightly less miles per gallon overall.
With it's small fuel tank it seems like I am always looking for a gas
station. The F-350 was good for over 400 miles per tank. Economy wise, the
two trucks are probably equal since diesel is more expensive than gas.

My son, who had a F-250 with the gas guzzling V10, traded it for a F-150 4x4
with the smaller V8. I rode it in the other day and was very impressed with
it's ride, room and power. My brother has a newer Ram 1500 4x4 which also
is a nice riding truck although the gas mileage of the mini-hemi leaves
something to be desired.

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never had one.

Eisboch

Check out the new Tundras. Smoooooooooth. Two different V8s, including
the same one I have in my 4Runner. Trouble free, quiet, comfy. Much more
refined on the inside than the Ford or GM trucks.

A Tundra may be in my future.


In addition to the 4Runner?

Once you start, you can't stop. They're worse than potato chips.

No, I'd probably trade the 4Runner for it. I'm missing my pickup fiercely,
although I do like the 4Runner. I may just get a trailer. We'll see what we
move into when we move.
--
John H

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:18:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never had one.

Take a ride in a Tundra also. I think you'll be impressed.

"HK" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:18:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

On the other hand, if I could get out of my lease early, I'd buy one of
the regular cab EF? 4 cylinder manual versions they're selling here for
less than $13K.
My towing needs are pretty modest now with the aluminum Princecraft.

Speaking of Rangers, I am seriously thinking of taking the hit and
trading mine back for a full sized truck again.
I had determined that I really didn't need the last one I had, a Ford
F-350 PS diesel and traded it for the '07 Ranger "Level II" 4x4.
Although it's a nice little truck and is adequately powered with the
4.0L V6, I still miss the oomph of a V8 or diesel. It also gets about
the same mpg as the F-350 diesel, in fact if anything, it gets slightly
less miles per gallon overall. With it's small fuel tank it seems like I
am always looking for a gas station. The F-350 was good for over 400
miles per tank. Economy wise, the two trucks are probably equal since
diesel is more expensive than gas.

My son, who had a F-250 with the gas guzzling V10, traded it for a F-150
4x4 with the smaller V8. I rode it in the other day and was very
impressed with it's ride, room and power. My brother has a newer Ram
1500 4x4 which also is a nice riding truck although the gas mileage of
the mini-hemi leaves something to be desired.

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never had
one.

Eisboch


Check out the new Tundras. Smoooooooooth. Two different V8s, including the
same one I have in my 4Runner. Trouble free, quiet, comfy. Much more
refined on the inside than the Ford or GM trucks.

My 2004 Chevy 2500 is more refined than my S-I-L's Tundra. Rides nicer
also.

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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:50:13 -0500, HK wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:18:00 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
On the other hand, if I could get out of my lease early, I'd buy
one of the regular cab EF? 4 cylinder manual versions they're
selling here for less than $13K.
My towing needs are pretty modest now with the aluminum
Princecraft.

Speaking of Rangers, I am seriously thinking of taking the hit and
trading mine back for a full sized truck again.
I had determined that I really didn't need the last one I had, a
Ford F-350 PS diesel and traded it for the '07 Ranger "Level II"
4x4. Although it's a nice little truck and is adequately powered
with the 4.0L V6, I still miss the oomph of a V8 or diesel. It
also gets about the same mpg as the F-350 diesel, in fact if
anything, it gets slightly less miles per gallon overall. With it's
small fuel tank it seems like I am always looking for a gas
station. The F-350 was good for over 400 miles per tank. Economy
wise, the two trucks are probably equal since diesel is more
expensive than gas.

My son, who had a F-250 with the gas guzzling V10, traded it for a
F-150 4x4 with the smaller V8. I rode it in the other day and was
very impressed with it's ride, room and power. My brother has a
newer Ram 1500 4x4 which also is a nice riding truck although the
gas mileage of the mini-hemi leaves something to be desired.

I am also going to checkout the GMC trucks, only because I've never
had one.

Eisboch
Check out the new Tundras. Smoooooooooth. Two different V8s,
including the same one I have in my 4Runner. Trouble free, quiet,
comfy. Much more refined on the inside than the Ford or GM trucks.
A Tundra may be in my future.

In addition to the 4Runner?

Once you start, you can't stop. They're worse than potato chips.

Now that the auto people are starting to acknowledge the strength of the
loonie vs. the yankee dollah, I could lease a regular cab 2x4 Tundra for
$20.00 more per month than my Ranger. That's the truck I wanted in the
first place before they ruined it by American sizing it.
A lot of us city people don't want or need a honking big truck to run
around town.
The smaller Toyota trucks look pretty nice, too. Never owned one, but
there are lots around, plain and fancy.


I checked out the Tacoma a couple of years ago but didn't like the cab.
Seemed like the roof was too low over your head and it had a closed in
feel.
Also..they only come in an extended cab version.... no regular cabs.


Regular cabs sux. Last regular cab pickup I had was a Chevy LUV in about
1977 or so. No room inside to put extra stuff that you do not want in the
weather or to lock up. The extra 18" or so for an extended cab is worth it.
The Tacoma's are nice. One of my S-I-L's has a 2006 and he is 6'3" and has
no problem with the height.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:05:15 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

My 2004 Chevy 2500 is more refined than my S-I-L's Tundra. Rides nicer
also.

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:40:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:05:15 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

My 2004 Chevy 2500 is more refined than my S-I-L's Tundra. Rides nicer
also.

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:34:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:40:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:05:15 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

My 2004 Chevy 2500 is more refined than my S-I-L's Tundra. Rides nicer
also.

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

GMC - SLT (high end) crew cab - http://tinyurl.com/2xth8l

Tundra - Limited (high end) crew cab - http://tinyurl.com/2vxdbk

Not a whole lot of price difference there.
--
John H

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:34:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Maybe but the Tundra will last a lot longer and have more resale
value.

Which is the result of costing $10,000 more than a similarly equipped
Ford, Chevy or Dodge.

IMHO money well spent if you plan on keeping it for a while. The
increased reliability alone is worth quite a bit to me. Several times
I have resolved to never again own an american made automotive
product. This time I mean it. :-)