Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:35:43 -0500, HK wrote:

Sure, Dwayne, whatever you say. I had a Furuno fishfinder on the
original YoHo and was unimpressed by it, but I am sure your
experiences with Furuno fishfinders on the flying bridge of your RV
are relevant.

Harry, cut it out - the "snark" puts you at the same level as a couple
of others here.

Sorry, but I don't see where the under $1000 Furuno fishfinders are
better than any others in the same price and feature class. I had much
better service from Raymarine than Furuno.

Harry,
I think...

Why do you think I give a tinker's dam about what you think?

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:45:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:45:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:55:49 -0500, HK wrote:
Sorry to interrupt the usual drivel in here, but
I did want to report good customer service from Raymarine.

I have a Ray fishfinder/depthfinder on son of Yo Ho. I didn't think the
display was bright enough, so last September I called and asked what to
do. I was told to simply return the unit after the boating season and
Ray's service department would look it over.

Sent the unit back last week, got a phone call Wednesday, told there was
nothing out of the ordinary, but the company was sending a brand new
unit just to make sure.

It arrived yesterday.

Cool.

Oh...side benefit...everyone I spoke with at Ray spoke English properly,
with a solid Yankee accent!
================================================== =
That's good to know but I can tell you from personal experience that
if you had bought a Furuno, the display would have been bright enough
right out of the box. I have to turn ours way down at night to keep
from being blinded by it. It is highly visible in direct sunlight on
the flybridge and that was a deciding factor in buying it.

If you take a look around at what commercial fisherman are using, well
over 90% are Furuno.

When I bought my first Contender, I looked at both systems and didn't
see a lot of difference - both quality small boat systems.

I went with Raymarine only because I have a family connection to
Raytheon and up to that point, always used Raytheon marine equipment.
And I will admit to being a "brand" loyal type of person - with two
exceptions, I've always bought Ford vehicles.

Not a knock on Furuno, but I think a lot is market penetration - used
to be DECCA 202s that were popular small marine radars. I look at
Furuno kinda like Yamaha - they are ok engines, but monkey see, monkey
do. :)

Wow - that DECCA thing goes back a few years.

~~ sheesh ~~

The first Furuno fishfinder mounted on the original Yo Ho died during
the first season and it took Furuno a full month to replace it. I also
had to replace the Furuno-branded transducer once. Both units were
properly installed.

Counter point - I've never owned a Garmin unit that worked properly
first time out of the box and, in my experience, their customer
service leaves a lot to be desired. Yet a lot of people have nothing
but good things to say about them.

So - who knows.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...


You will be better off investing in Citigroup and riding out the present
troubles. RTN has never been a great dividend payer and they are already
at a very high price. Same with Harris group. You want investment
advice? Healthcare stocks will probably be number one with the greying of
the citizenry.


EWZ is my personal favorite- I'm retiring 15 years earlier than planned
because of this one fund.

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:25:04 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:45:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:45:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:55:49 -0500, HK wrote:
Sorry to interrupt the usual drivel in here, but
I did want to report good customer service from Raymarine.

I have a Ray fishfinder/depthfinder on son of Yo Ho. I didn't think the
display was bright enough, so last September I called and asked what to
do. I was told to simply return the unit after the boating season and
Ray's service department would look it over.

Sent the unit back last week, got a phone call Wednesday, told there was
nothing out of the ordinary, but the company was sending a brand new
unit just to make sure.

It arrived yesterday.

Cool.

Oh...side benefit...everyone I spoke with at Ray spoke English properly,
with a solid Yankee accent!
================================================== =
That's good to know but I can tell you from personal experience that
if you had bought a Furuno, the display would have been bright enough
right out of the box. I have to turn ours way down at night to keep
from being blinded by it. It is highly visible in direct sunlight on
the flybridge and that was a deciding factor in buying it.

If you take a look around at what commercial fisherman are using, well
over 90% are Furuno.

When I bought my first Contender, I looked at both systems and didn't
see a lot of difference - both quality small boat systems.

I went with Raymarine only because I have a family connection to
Raytheon and up to that point, always used Raytheon marine equipment.
And I will admit to being a "brand" loyal type of person - with two
exceptions, I've always bought Ford vehicles.

Not a knock on Furuno, but I think a lot is market penetration - used
to be DECCA 202s that were popular small marine radars. I look at
Furuno kinda like Yamaha - they are ok engines, but monkey see, monkey
do. :)

Wow - that DECCA thing goes back a few years.

~~ sheesh ~~

The first Furuno fishfinder mounted on the original Yo Ho died during
the first season and it took Furuno a full month to replace it. I also
had to replace the Furuno-branded transducer once. Both units were
properly installed.

Counter point - I've never owned a Garmin unit that worked properly
first time out of the box and, in my experience, their customer
service leaves a lot to be desired. Yet a lot of people have nothing
but good things to say about them.

So - who knows.

da, DA!

The Shadow knows....
--
John H

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:27:31 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..

I messed around with one of these yesterday and had a lot of fun with
it.

http://www.steelguitar.com/webpix/stdpix/d10ebapr.htm

Don't know that I want to learn a whole new technique though.

Kelly has a good reputation, and for acoustic instruments, Fishman
electronics are highly regarded. But, there's one thing to consider with
acoustic basses, and it's true regardless of the brand: When you're
playing
alone, it'll sound plenty loud to you, even without an amp. It's an
illusion. It won't hold its own against other instruments, except maybe
a
flute. Bass needs more power to go anywhere significant.

I don't expect to play with others - this is just for my own amusement
and trying to keep the fingers nimble enough - I've been having some
problems with dexterity and need to exercise them more.

And I hate the exercises the therapist recommends.

Bass would certainly do it. But (there's always a "but"), do you envision
sitting or standing while you play?

That's a good question - probably a combination of both.


Hollow body instruments can present problems if you play while sitting. The
body has a sharp bend where your right arm hangs over the edge. If the edge
presses into your wrist/lower arm in just the right way, it's painful enough
to make you want to stop playing.

Even a solid body bass with a smooth, round edge can be a problem while
sitting, depending on where the edge lands on your arm. Be sure you spend
some time in the store, sitting with the bass in a chair that's similar to
the one you'll use at home. You should be able to play without bending your
wrist too much. Otherwise, fatigue sets in quickly and you won't want to
play.

By the way, the Kelly bass isn't really an acoustic in the same category as
this style, for instance:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ass?sku=511994

What I said last night about lack of sound projection will be even more
pronounced with the Kelly and others that have a thin acoustic body. So, an
amp is almost a necessity. You can learn to milk more sound out of an
unamplified instrument, but it'll still only be enough for practice.

Finally, take a close look at where the neck meets the body of a bass. For
instance, compare these three:

http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/dragonfly.html
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?...ollectionID=12
http://www.peavey.com/products/brows...%20Bubinga.cfm

The three examples show various levels of access to the last few frets.
Although bassists don't play down there often, you may want to. He did, and
his basses always had enough of a cutaway to allow it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4kzCoLNAjo

Anyway, if I were starting over, I'd go for a solid body. Don't fall in love
with the wood. Get something that's really comfortable.

"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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On Dec 2, 8:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Dec 2, 8:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
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On Dec 2, 7:59 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Dec 2, 7:28 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry to interrupt the usual drivel in here, but
I did want to report good customer service from Raymarine.
I have a Ray fishfinder/depthfinder on son of Yo Ho. I didn't
think
the
display was bright enough, so last September I called and asked
what
to
do. I was told to simply return the unit after the boating
season
and
Ray's service department would look it over.
Sent the unit back last week, got a phone call Wednesday, told
there
was
nothing out of the ordinary, but the company was sending a brand
new
unit
just to make sure.
It arrived yesterday.
Cool.
Oh...side benefit...everyone I spoke with at Ray spoke English
properly,
with a solid Yankee accent!
I'd tell you what's paying for that great service, but it would
turn
this
into a political discussion. It's enough to say that it's your
tax
dollars,
and that you should buy as much RTN stock as you can afford,
along
with
some
HRS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Aren't you the one who went all tin foil hat about some kids
website
a
couple of months back?
No. You must be imagining that.
Right now, explain how you came to that conclusion based on what I
said.
Do
it carefully. Remember that you are disabled.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
No Joe, it was you. You freaked out and told us we were all
downloading some malware by clicking on the kids site. The kid post
the site every few months, been doing it for years... smerk...
OK. You're right.
Now, explain your tin foil hat bull****, and how it made sense as a
response
to my stock suggestions.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I think you see conspiracy where it is not, and I think your personal
politics leads your imagination. I think you read a lot but can't
process all that information logically, or put it to practical use. I
think you either have some insider info (doubt it) or are seeing
things again when it comes to your stock call.... Hows that for
disabled? :O
Are you saying that Raytheon's defense business doesn't make an
important
contribution to the quality of its tech support for its other
customers?
That's what I said in the paragraph which I've repeated below, in case
you've already lost track of the conversation.
No, but I have grown bored of it


You are a terrible dancer.

You have two left feet!


I know, and one is backwards.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry to interrupt the usual drivel in here, but
I did want to report good customer service from Raymarine.

I have a Ray fishfinder/depthfinder on son of Yo Ho. I didn't think the
display was bright enough, so last September I called and asked what to
do. I was told to simply return the unit after the boating season and
Ray's service department would look it over.

Sent the unit back last week, got a phone call Wednesday, told there was
nothing out of the ordinary, but the company was sending a brand new
unit just to make sure.

It arrived yesterday.

Cool.

Oh...side benefit...everyone I spoke with at Ray spoke English properly,
with a solid Yankee accent!


I'd tell you what's paying for that great service, but it would turn this
into a political discussion. It's enough to say that it's your tax
dollars, and that you should buy as much RTN stock as you can afford,
along with some HRS.

How much HRS and RTN do you own?


None, yet. I'm fully invested in my IRA, and all my attention is now on my
son's request to begin investing. He began with Citigroup. RTN and HRS
wouldn't fit his plans at this time.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:35:43 -0500, HK wrote:

Sure, Dwayne, whatever you say. I had a Furuno fishfinder on the
original YoHo and was unimpressed by it, but I am sure your
experiences with Furuno fishfinders on the flying bridge of your RV
are relevant.

Harry, cut it out - the "snark" puts you at the same level as a couple
of others here.

Sorry, but I don't see where the under $1000 Furuno fishfinders are
better than any others in the same price and feature class. I had
much better service from Raymarine than Furuno.

Harry,
I think...

Why do you think I give a tinker's dam about what you think?

Whenever someone makes a post in a NG, they are making to post to the OP
and whomever else reads the post. It really doesn't matter if you give
a damn, I am giving my opinion, which in this case is 100% accurate.
Feel free to ignore it. If you notice, SWF made the same observation I
did.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Anyway, if I were starting over, I'd go for a solid body. Don't fall in
love with the wood. Get something that's really comfortable.


Not a bass, but ...

The other day I was talking to one of my dock neighbors. He and his wife
are full-time liveaboards, and are really good folks. (Here's their
"yacht")

http://www.eisboch.com/yachtclub.jpg

While we were yaking I happened to notice a guitar on his houseboat. Turns
out it's a late 50's vintage Guild 12 string and his pride and joy. He's a
country music type, but we plan to get together and hum and strum this
winter, serenading the fish.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Anyway, if I were starting over, I'd go for a solid body. Don't fall in
love with the wood. Get something that's really comfortable.


Not a bass, but ...

The other day I was talking to one of my dock neighbors. He and his wife
are full-time liveaboards, and are really good folks. (Here's their
"yacht")

http://www.eisboch.com/yachtclub.jpg

While we were yaking I happened to notice a guitar on his houseboat.
Turns out it's a late 50's vintage Guild 12 string and his pride and joy.
He's a country music type, but we plan to get together and hum and strum
this winter, serenading the fish.

Eisboch


Nice yot!