On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:33:24 GMT, wrote:



I can tell your uncle what happens if you go in the river. If he's not wearing a
seatbealt, he's gonna hit his head very hard on the windshield and be knocked
out cold. He'll get out when they recover the car with a winch.

If he's wearing a seatbelt, he may at least have a possibility of unbuckling it
and making an escape. It's a better chance than without the belt.

He probaly thinks he's going to open the door underwater, too!


They've done a number of shows on Discovery-type channels about
how Floridians - who are always driving into canals - should carry a
center punch to shatter windows when caught underwater.
Damn, life can get complicated.

--Vic

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:19:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Why? If some moron wants to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, who
cares? If you're stupid enough to think you're immune to head injuries,
the gene pool is better off without you. Give this 200 years and the 54%
might shrink a bit.


To quote a famous NG participate .....

"Damn straight!"

Holy smokes - I'm famous!!!

WHOO HOO!!

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:17:43 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


More regression.

Isn't it awesome?

Regression is a tool of the right wing hegemonic cabal in convert with
the left wing facists in charge of Hollywood to control the
proletariat.

Or not.

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:19:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Why? If some moron wants to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, who
cares? If you're stupid enough to think you're immune to head injuries,
the gene pool is better off without you. Give this 200 years and the 54%
might shrink a bit.

To quote a famous NG participate .....

"Damn straight!"
Holy smokes - I'm famous!!!

WHOO HOO!!


I would have said 'infamous', but I guess it's all in the eye of the
beholder. ;-)




Or...the nose of the inhaler! :}

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:19:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Why? If some moron wants to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, who
cares? If you're stupid enough to think you're immune to head injuries,
the gene pool is better off without you. Give this 200 years and the 54%
might shrink a bit.


To quote a famous NG participate .....

"Damn straight!"

Holy smokes - I'm famous!!!

WHOO HOO!!


I would have said 'infamous', but I guess it's all in the eye of the
beholder. ;-)

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...


There is, in fact, a national motorcycle helmet law in
effect already. It only applies to people with something worth protecting.


Please provide a cite.

A while back the Fed refused money for road system maintenance if the state
did not have a helmet law .... similar to the 55 mph speed limit of the
70's. But that is changing.

Every year more states are changing the law or modifying it based on real
data.
Florida is a good example and reflects some common sense. There *is* a
helmet law, but you are not required to wear one if over 21 years of age and
can prove that you have at least some minimum amount of personal health
insurance.

That is meaningless. When you are in an ambulance being rushed to the
hospital with your with your massive head injury they are not going to
refuse you emergency treatment due to the fact that you are under 21 or
that you don't carry a minimum amount of insurance. If you become a
vegetable what difference does it make whether you had insurance?

There are more states that riding without a helmet is legal today than there
were 20 years ago.

Personal choice. I like NH's law on seat belts. If you are over 18 you
have the choice to wear a seatbelt or not wear a seatbelt.

BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...


There is, in fact, a national motorcycle helmet law in
effect already. It only applies to people with something worth
protecting.


Please provide a cite.

A while back the Fed refused money for road system maintenance if the
state did not have a helmet law .... similar to the 55 mph speed limit
of the 70's. But that is changing.

Every year more states are changing the law or modifying it based on
real data.
Florida is a good example and reflects some common sense. There *is*
a helmet law, but you are not required to wear one if over 21 years of
age and can prove that you have at least some minimum amount of
personal health insurance.

That is meaningless. When you are in an ambulance being rushed to the
hospital with your with your massive head injury they are not going to
refuse you emergency treatment due to the fact that you are under 21 or
that you don't carry a minimum amount of insurance. If you become a
vegetable what difference does it make whether you had insurance?

There are more states that riding without a helmet is legal today than
there were 20 years ago.

Personal choice. I like NH's law on seat belts. If you are over 18 you
have the choice to wear a seatbelt or not wear a seatbelt.


I certainly have no objection to people like you not wearing helmets or
seatbelts. Go for it, and drive like the macho man you think you are.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...


There is, in fact, a national motorcycle helmet law in
effect already. It only applies to people with something worth
protecting.


Please provide a cite.

A while back the Fed refused money for road system maintenance if the
state did not have a helmet law .... similar to the 55 mph speed
limit of the 70's. But that is changing.

Every year more states are changing the law or modifying it based on
real data.
Florida is a good example and reflects some common sense. There *is*
a helmet law, but you are not required to wear one if over 21 years
of age and can prove that you have at least some minimum amount of
personal health insurance.

That is meaningless. When you are in an ambulance being rushed to the
hospital with your with your massive head injury they are not going to
refuse you emergency treatment due to the fact that you are under 21
or that you don't carry a minimum amount of insurance. If you become a
vegetable what difference does it make whether you had insurance?

There are more states that riding without a helmet is legal today
than there were 20 years ago.

Personal choice. I like NH's law on seat belts. If you are over 18 you
have the choice to wear a seatbelt or not wear a seatbelt.


I certainly have no objection to people like you not wearing helmets or
seatbelts. Go for it, and drive like the macho man you think you are.

Harry, I didn't know you cared.

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...


There is, in fact, a national motorcycle helmet law in
effect already. It only applies to people with something worth
protecting.


Please provide a cite.

A while back the Fed refused money for road system maintenance if
the state did not have a helmet law .... similar to the 55 mph speed
limit of the 70's. But that is changing.

Every year more states are changing the law or modifying it based on
real data.
Florida is a good example and reflects some common sense. There
*is* a helmet law, but you are not required to wear one if over 21
years of age and can prove that you have at least some minimum
amount of personal health insurance.

That is meaningless. When you are in an ambulance being rushed to the
hospital with your with your massive head injury they are not going
to refuse you emergency treatment due to the fact that you are under
21 or that you don't carry a minimum amount of insurance. If you
become a vegetable what difference does it make whether you had
insurance?

There are more states that riding without a helmet is legal today
than there were 20 years ago.

Personal choice. I like NH's law on seat belts. If you are over 18
you have the choice to wear a seatbelt or not wear a seatbelt.


I certainly have no objection to people like you not wearing helmets
or seatbelts. Go for it, and drive like the macho man you think you are.

Harry, I didn't know you cared.



D'oh.

wrote in news:83a75517-a723-4e23-
:

Yep, I got that. The phone and cable companies have been doing
this
for a long time so they could bring in services as "extras" or
upgrades and charge more. When we had DSL in one location, I
knew a
guy that worked at the local NOC where our line met the others.
He
went down the street one day and "flipped a switch" and our DSL
went
ballistic with speed, anything we could throw at it



If "they" find him, "they" will fire him, maybe prosecute him.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v