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HK November 27th 07 09:46 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.

HK November 27th 07 09:47 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


No, John, for the fifth time, it was not DONE by a Baptist church. It
was a Christmas parade. I don't know who the overall sponsor was, but
there were many organizations participating, including a bunch of
fundie churches with live Jesus on a cross floats. Got it? Now, how do
I know they were fundie churches? There isn't hardly anything else out
there, or wasn't when I was a visitor. Even the Presbyterians weren't
out there back then.


That must have been real lucky for you to bump into a Christmas parade
in a tiny little town, without any newspapers, that was actually having
a Christmas parade as you were driving through. The best part is that
this parade was done by fundie's who tied people to the cross to
celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.

You are a very lucky guy. Was this about the same time you ran into
that bungler of a robber with your car?



Where did I say I was "driving through"?

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:48 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere.
I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season
and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various
fundie church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion.
Yes, they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a
spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a
photo of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just
guessed that it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats
sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't
pay any attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was
laughing too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were
many Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other
religious reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but
you hit the mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town
again?





Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:49 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.


Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.




How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.


Harry,
I am up for the bet, are you?


Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:51 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.
How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.

I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat


I'll bid 40 Quatloos.


I will pay you $100 for each Quatloos you deliver.
;)



JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 09:52 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that
it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats sponsored
by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't pay any
attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was laughing
too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were many
Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other religious
reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but you hit the
mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town again?



How big does a town have to be to have X number of churches? Please explain
your theory. Is "big" dependent on physical area, population in the town
limits, population within a certain distance of the town, or what?



JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 09:55 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.



Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".



James R. Gallows III November 27th 07 09:56 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:58 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and
I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for
my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.


HK November 27th 07 10:01 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such a
parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.




The Catholics where I grew up certainly did not have a parade with a guy
playing Jesus up on a cross. And the city where I grew up was about 65%
RC when I lived there, mostly of Italian, Irish, and Polish ancestry.
The real deal Catholics of that time.


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