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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made fun of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or attitude. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society. Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this. Remember the newsgroup rule: "If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist". It's related to another rule: "Without a web link, nothing exists". Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers." Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny. Harry, I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it? As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I will not reveal it here or elsewhere. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: No, John, for the fifth time, it was not DONE by a Baptist church. It was a Christmas parade. I don't know who the overall sponsor was, but there were many organizations participating, including a bunch of fundie churches with live Jesus on a cross floats. Got it? Now, how do I know they were fundie churches? There isn't hardly anything else out there, or wasn't when I was a visitor. Even the Presbyterians weren't out there back then. That must have been real lucky for you to bump into a Christmas parade in a tiny little town, without any newspapers, that was actually having a Christmas parade as you were driving through. The best part is that this parade was done by fundie's who tied people to the cross to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. You are a very lucky guy. Was this about the same time you ran into that bungler of a robber with your car? Where did I say I was "driving through"? |
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HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing Catholics. Chuck, I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and who was doing the parade. How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000? It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses. Harry, I am up for the bet, are you? |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald Smithers III wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing Catholics. Chuck, I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and who was doing the parade. How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000? It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses. I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat I'll bid 40 Quatloos. I will pay you $100 for each Quatloos you deliver. ;) |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. .. HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the list is endless! ;-) Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida. (not home yet but making good progress) One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon. Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany. In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents. Remarkable. It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that it was a fundie thing. Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin" community. . What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church? I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't pay any attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was laughing too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were many Latinos living in the community. That was a great small town with a number of churches and other religious reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but you hit the mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town again? How big does a town have to be to have X number of churches? Please explain your theory. Is "big" dependent on physical area, population in the town limits, population within a certain distance of the town, or what? |
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" JimH" ask wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the list is endless! ? ;-) Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida. (not home yet but making good progress) One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon. Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany. In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents. Remarkable. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be crucified? http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken, the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally "sagging" down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and the victim drowns in his own fluid. Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think. I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing Catholics. He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday. Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all the other Christian sects. Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made fun of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or attitude. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society. Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this. I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such a parade. Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death. http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html Page down to "bleedin jesus". |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it? I found it and I'm not telling. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made fun of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or attitude. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society. Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this. Remember the newsgroup rule: "If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist". It's related to another rule: "Without a web link, nothing exists". Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers." Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny. Harry, I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it? As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I will not reveal it here or elsewhere. Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer. |
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the list is endless! ? ;-) Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida. (not home yet but making good progress) One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon. Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany. In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents. Remarkable. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be crucified? http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken, the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally "sagging" down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and the victim drowns in his own fluid. Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think. I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing Catholics. He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday. Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all the other Christian sects. Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made fun of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or attitude. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society. Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this. I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such a parade. Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death. The Catholics where I grew up certainly did not have a parade with a guy playing Jesus up on a cross. And the city where I grew up was about 65% RC when I lived there, mostly of Italian, Irish, and Polish ancestry. The real deal Catholics of that time. |
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