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Eisboch November 26th 07 10:09 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom November 26th 07 10:25 PM

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yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs



That is obscene.



Eisboch November 26th 07 10:28 PM

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yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs



That is obscene.


I remember that one from last year. It's all controlled by a midi
controller .... the same type of equipment used by live bands.

Lemmie work on it a bit ....

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing November 26th 07 11:02 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:23:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


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Eisboch




yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs


Yawn...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEOw53GnWQ

[email protected] November 26th 07 11:06 PM

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Eisboch


I like the boat;)

Short Wave Sportfishing November 26th 07 11:08 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

http://www.eisboch.com/lights1.jpg

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Needs a little more "pizz" with "azz" - or as they say in France -
illumination. :)

You know - go overboard.

Get it - overboard?

Short Wave Sportfishing November 26th 07 11:12 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

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These kids have really done themselves proud.

Six different international lighting awards and while they were still
in high school.

http://www.lindsaylights.com/Videos/...eos/index.html

My favorite is still 2005 - Wizard's Court.

Eisboch November 26th 07 11:24 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
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http://www.eisboch.com/lights3.jpg


Needs a little more "pizz" with "azz" - or as they say in France -
illumination. :)

You know - go overboard.

Get it - overboard?




Came close today.

Not done yet .... gimmie a break.

Eisboch



[email protected] November 26th 07 11:27 PM

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On Nov 26, 5:23 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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Eisboch


yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs


Oh, yes, everything and anything you do is far superior to anyone
else! The size of your turkey is bigger than anyone's. The method you
use to cook your turkey is better than anyone's. Your son is better
than anyone's. Shut up and grow a dick.

Don White November 26th 07 11:40 PM

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Eisboch




yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs



Pretty amazing. The front lawn trees really seem to be running
around...somewhat like a Disney animation.



Short Wave Sportfishing November 26th 07 11:56 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:24:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

http://www.eisboch.com/lights1.jpg

http://www.eisboch.com/lights2.jpg

http://www.eisboch.com/lights3.jpg


Needs a little more "pizz" with "azz" - or as they say in France -
illumination. :)

You know - go overboard.

Get it - overboard?


Came close today.

Not done yet .... gimmie a break.


10-4.

You are officially broken. :)

You wouldn't happen to have a MIDI controller? :)

[email protected] November 27th 07 12:04 AM

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On Nov 26, 6:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:88kmk35o85eoq79ce46s0cjg0cccg9qvtf@4ax .com...

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


http://www.eisboch.com/lights1.jpg


http://www.eisboch.com/lights2.jpg


http://www.eisboch.com/lights3.jpg


Needs a little more "pizz" with "azz" - or as they say in France -
illumination. :)


You know - go overboard.


Get it - overboard?


Came close today.

Not done yet .... gimmie a break.

Eisboch


That's a "rule 1" thing... You should have a whistle that you put
around your neck whenever you are working outside around the dock and
boat, whenever the water is under 55 degrees or so. I is no harder
than grabbing your keys before you go out to the car. We had a lady
here in Essex a couple of years back go over, by the time she swam
around to the dock, she could not climb the ladder, she died. So, lash
up a nice thick cotton shoelace with a whistle and wear it when you go
outside. Just my opinion, that's how we do things around here. In
every part of your life there are stupid things that can go wrong,
some more likely than others. Although we can't prepare for
everything, we do prepare for the more obvious dangers, before we get
ourselves into it. We fish at night with whistles and flashlights
lashed to the life jackets, we clear a path and scope out escape
routes and safe areas before moving the horses, we tell everyone on
our boat where the lifejackets are and make them put them on when
conditions call for it, even slightly, why not, that's the point. It
only takes a second to stay alive...BTW, Rule 1 is something I picked
up in the Kayak forums, rule 1 is "Don't get dead!" Anyway, that is
my friday night rant, on monday;) Make a lanyard, make a new habit;)

Tim November 27th 07 12:38 AM

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No lights, but I dig this!

http://stevebetz.vox.com/library/aud...ab124094f.html

John H. November 27th 07 12:42 AM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:09:06 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

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Eisboch



You win the earliest Christmas decorator prize.
--
John H

Chuck Gould November 27th 07 12:48 AM

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On Nov 26, 2:09�pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Eisboch



Hmm.

And here I thought that with the six spiral lighted trees, (each with
a star on top), six plastic candy canes with internal lighting, and
two strings of "rope lights" conencted end-to and running around the
rail I would be the least decorated boat going. You're giving me a run
for minimalism, that's for sure. :-)

Maybe I'll have to take a photo as well.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 01:29 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:23:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Eisboch



yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs


Yawn...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEOw53GnWQ


Eisboch has his hands full to get his boat up to speed.


Dan November 27th 07 01:44 AM

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wrote:
On Nov 26, 5:23 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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http://www.eisboch.com/lights1.jpg
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Eisboch

yawn Let me know when you beat this. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYoPEyPkEs


Oh, yes, everything and anything you do is far superior to anyone
else! The size of your turkey is bigger than anyone's. The method you
use to cook your turkey is better than anyone's. Your son is better
than anyone's. Shut up and grow a dick.


Try growing a different herb, sport. You were way out there, again,
with that one.

-dk

Wayne.B November 27th 07 02:07 AM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)


Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



HK November 27th 07 02:15 AM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)


Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)




One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Tim November 27th 07 02:21 AM

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On Nov 26, 8:15 pm, HK wrote:
Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.



OK

?;

Eisboch November 27th 07 07:24 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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You wouldn't happen to have a MIDI controller? :)


Somewhere I have a cheap midi event controller that I was fooling around
with in Florida.
I think it only has three triac outputs that you can wire to lights or other
low powered devices.

It's pretty cool, as you can assign a midi "event" on one or more of 16
tracks to pulse a set of lights on or off and sync it to any one of the
music tracks. It would run straight off the computer or from the midi thru
port on a keyboard.

These people doing the light displays spent a lot of time programming the
sequence.

Eisboch




Short Wave Sportfishing November 27th 07 11:03 AM

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:24:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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You wouldn't happen to have a MIDI controller? :)


Somewhere I have a cheap midi event controller that I was fooling around
with in Florida.
I think it only has three triac outputs that you can wire to lights or other
low powered devices.

It's pretty cool, as you can assign a midi "event" on one or more of 16
tracks to pulse a set of lights on or off and sync it to any one of the
music tracks. It would run straight off the computer or from the midi thru
port on a keyboard.


I'll have to look it up, but I think the Lindsay's use a computer MIDI
something or other to a solid state powered relay bank. As I
understand it, the timing is more precise that way.

These people doing the light displays spent a lot of time programming the
sequence.


I saw an interview on the 2005 Lindsay Lights. The older of the two
said that they started programming in September as they were
installing the lights and finished in November - right before the
first show.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 11:54 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:24:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

You wouldn't happen to have a MIDI controller? :)

Somewhere I have a cheap midi event controller that I was fooling around
with in Florida.
I think it only has three triac outputs that you can wire to lights or other
low powered devices.

It's pretty cool, as you can assign a midi "event" on one or more of 16
tracks to pulse a set of lights on or off and sync it to any one of the
music tracks. It would run straight off the computer or from the midi thru
port on a keyboard.


I'll have to look it up, but I think the Lindsay's use a computer MIDI
something or other to a solid state powered relay bank. As I
understand it, the timing is more precise that way.

These people doing the light displays spent a lot of time programming the
sequence.


I saw an interview on the 2005 Lindsay Lights. The older of the two
said that they started programming in September as they were
installing the lights and finished in November - right before the
first show.


In 2003 it took them 30 hrs to program, in 2006 it was 60 hrs

John H. November 27th 07 12:05 PM

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)


Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)




One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.
--
John H

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 12:11 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)

Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.


It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo of
it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that it
was a fundie thing.

Eisboch November 27th 07 12:36 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
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Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just missed
it.



Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing November 27th 07 12:38 PM

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:54:13 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:24:01 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

You wouldn't happen to have a MIDI controller? :)
Somewhere I have a cheap midi event controller that I was fooling around
with in Florida.
I think it only has three triac outputs that you can wire to lights or other
low powered devices.

It's pretty cool, as you can assign a midi "event" on one or more of 16
tracks to pulse a set of lights on or off and sync it to any one of the
music tracks. It would run straight off the computer or from the midi thru
port on a keyboard.


I'll have to look it up, but I think the Lindsay's use a computer MIDI
something or other to a solid state powered relay bank. As I
understand it, the timing is more precise that way.

These people doing the light displays spent a lot of time programming the
sequence.


I saw an interview on the 2005 Lindsay Lights. The older of the two
said that they started programming in September as they were
installing the lights and finished in November - right before the
first show.


In 2003 it took them 30 hrs to program, in 2006 it was 60 hrs


Didn't know that.

Thanks.

John H. November 27th 07 12:38 PM

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:11:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)

Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.


It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo of
it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that it
was a fundie thing.


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just missed
it.

I know Harry wouldn't lie or anything, but I did find it remarkable.
--
John H

HK November 27th 07 12:48 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! ;-)

Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.



What's your point?

In the parts of Florida I am discussing, Roman Catholics aren't
considered Christian.

John H. November 27th 07 12:49 PM

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just missed
it.



Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H

HK November 27th 07 12:50 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.


It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo of
it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that it
was a fundie thing.



Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 12:56 PM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.


It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that
it was a fundie thing.



Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

..
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?




HK November 27th 07 01:11 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes,
they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed
that it was a fundie thing.



Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats
sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't
pay any attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was
laughing too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were
many Latinos living in the community.


Eisboch November 27th 07 01:20 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.



Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H



Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to the
fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air Force One
communications. We had a good time there but were happy to leave. Driving
up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was always an adventure.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/city/ponce.shtml

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 01:34 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple
years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a
bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H



Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to
the fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air
Force One communications. We had a good time there but were happy to
leave. Driving up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was
always an adventure.



Between road conditions and drivers who think they're god, it's still an
adventure!



Eisboch November 27th 07 01:39 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple
years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a
bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist.
Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base,
the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H



Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to
the fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air
Force One communications. We had a good time there but were happy to
leave. Driving up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was
always an adventure.



Between road conditions and drivers who think they're god, it's still an
adventure!


I remember the road as being very narrow, winding and full of "S" turns.
The truck drivers would stand with one foot on the running board, door open,
trying to see around the corners. In many places the road was too narrow to
allow two vehicles to pass each other.

I also recall that the road passed right by the Arecibo radio telescope
where they have been listening for radio signals from beyond our solar
system.

Eisboch



John H. November 27th 07 01:44 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:20:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H



Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to the
fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air Force One
communications. We had a good time there but were happy to leave. Driving
up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was always an adventure.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/city/ponce.shtml

Eisboch


My dad and I did a lot of inland fishing while there. Catfish was a regular
meal on Friday's, for the whole neighborhood when we lived on base. We
would go bass fishing at another lake. Never caught as many bass. I believe
the Puerto Ricans, at that time anyway, were not eaters of fresh water
fish, so these lakes had plenty of fish and very few people fishing.

I was happy to leave also.
--
John H

Chuck Gould November 27th 07 04:03 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Nov 27, 4:05�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes.............the
list is endless! � ;-)


Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.


(not home yet but making good progress)


One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.


Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html

Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.

Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.

Reginald Smithers III November 27th 07 04:08 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.


Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a photo
of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and who was
doing the parade.




HK November 27th 07 04:29 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! � ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html

Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.

Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.




A. These weren't Catholics...they were crazed fundies.
B. There were very few Latinos in the area where I saw the parade when I
saw it.
C. It was a Christmas parade.

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