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HK November 27th 07 09:46 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.

HK November 27th 07 09:47 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:


No, John, for the fifth time, it was not DONE by a Baptist church. It
was a Christmas parade. I don't know who the overall sponsor was, but
there were many organizations participating, including a bunch of
fundie churches with live Jesus on a cross floats. Got it? Now, how do
I know they were fundie churches? There isn't hardly anything else out
there, or wasn't when I was a visitor. Even the Presbyterians weren't
out there back then.


That must have been real lucky for you to bump into a Christmas parade
in a tiny little town, without any newspapers, that was actually having
a Christmas parade as you were driving through. The best part is that
this parade was done by fundie's who tied people to the cross to
celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.

You are a very lucky guy. Was this about the same time you ran into
that bungler of a robber with your car?



Where did I say I was "driving through"?

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:48 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere.
I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season
and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various
fundie church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion.
Yes, they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a
spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a
photo of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just
guessed that it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats
sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't
pay any attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was
laughing too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were
many Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other
religious reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but
you hit the mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town
again?





Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:49 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.


Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.




How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.


Harry,
I am up for the bet, are you?


Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:51 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.
How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.

I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat


I'll bid 40 Quatloos.


I will pay you $100 for each Quatloos you deliver.
;)



JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 09:52 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that
it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats sponsored
by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't pay any
attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was laughing
too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were many
Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other religious
reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but you hit the
mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town again?



How big does a town have to be to have X number of churches? Please explain
your theory. Is "big" dependent on physical area, population in the town
limits, population within a certain distance of the town, or what?



JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 09:55 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.



Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".



James R. Gallows III November 27th 07 09:56 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 09:58 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and
I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for
my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.


HK November 27th 07 10:01 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such a
parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.




The Catholics where I grew up certainly did not have a parade with a guy
playing Jesus up on a cross. And the city where I grew up was about 65%
RC when I lived there, mostly of Italian, Irish, and Polish ancestry.
The real deal Catholics of that time.

HK November 27th 07 10:02 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to
be made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.

Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and
I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name,
I will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for
my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.



Yeah, sure, so scan and fax a copy to my email, bigshot.

HK November 27th 07 10:03 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost
everywhere. I happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one
holiday season and got to see its annual Christmas parade, in
which the various fundie church congregations ran floats
depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live guys up there on
the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a
photo of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just
guessed that it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was
a parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats
sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I
didn't pay any attention to the names of the churches or
organizations; I was laughing too hard. At the time I observed the
parade, I doubt there were many Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other
religious reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but
you hit the mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town
again?





Now you are posing as an authority on the number of churches in small
southern towns?


Short Wave Sportfishing November 27th 07 10:09 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:51:29 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.
How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.
I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat


I'll bid 40 Quatloos.


I will pay you $100 for each Quatloos you deliver.
;)


Really?

Send me your address - I have 100 of them.

Seriously.

Eisboch November 27th 07 10:16 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I asked
my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They weren't
Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.




That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high"
Protestant tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a
cross, not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ in
their rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch



I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all the
fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a backwater
place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But it doesn't.


Far from a theologian and I know virtually nothing about fundie sects. I
simply stated it was a bit strange that whatever a "fundie" Baptist is (as
identified by your host and repeated by you to the NG) would participate in
the display you described as it is not a symbolic to their (meaning the
Baptist) faith.

Rev. Eisboch



HK November 27th 07 10:16 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.
Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".


Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.
Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.

Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for
my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.


Just curious Reggie.......why are you and John puppy dogging all of Harry's
posts once again today? Honest question.

Today looks like it like you were tag teaming and trying to start fights
worse than you 100+ posts on 11-24.

Can you stop it? Can you?




Doubtful. Neither of them, along with a few others (Dan, BAR, et cetera)
have anything to contribute, boat-wise.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 10:29 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.


Yeah right, I don't believe you, you are a figment of my imagination.


Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 10:31 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to
be made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our
society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.

Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade,
and I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your
name, I will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration
for my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.



Yeah, sure, so scan and fax a copy to my email, bigshot.


Harry,
It is a bet remember, it is an opportunity for one of us to make $20,000.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 10:33 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:51:29 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.
How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.
I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat
I'll bid 40 Quatloos.

I will pay you $100 for each Quatloos you deliver.
;)


Really?

Send me your address - I have 100 of them.

Seriously.


Speak to James R. Gallows III, he has my address.


Short Wave Sportfishing November 27th 07 10:35 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:16:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Rev. Eisboch


That has a certain air of authority about it.

The Right Reverend Eisboch.

I like it.

James R. Gallows III November 27th 07 10:35 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.


Yeah right, I don't believe you, you are a figment of my imagination.


Am not.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 27th 07 10:37 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?
I found it and I'm not telling.

Yeah right, I don't believe you, you are a figment of my imagination.


Am not.


well give SWF my address.


HK November 27th 07 10:41 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to
be made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments
or attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our
society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.

Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade,
and I am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your
name, I will not reveal it here or elsewhere.

Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration
for my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.



Yeah, sure, so scan and fax a copy to my email, bigshot.


Harry,
It is a bet remember, it is an opportunity for one of us to make $20,000.



Coward.

HK November 27th 07 10:54 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:46:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.
Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".


Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.
Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Now why the **** would you want someone's 'real' name? Your use of personal
data in the past has been nothing but nefarious. Are you turning a new leaf
here?

No way would I give you *any* personal information again.



To what personal information of yours are you referring? The fact that
we used to keep boats in the same marina?

John H. November 27th 07 10:54 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:46:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Now why the **** would you want someone's 'real' name? Your use of personal
data in the past has been nothing but nefarious. Are you turning a new leaf
here?

No way would I give you *any* personal information again.
--
John H

John H. November 27th 07 10:56 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:14:36 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".



Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.

Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?



As soon as you publish your real, legal name or email it to me, and
let us know right here what year, size, model and brand of boat you
drive, I'll be glad to help you in your quest. If you email your name, I
will not reveal it here or elsewhere.


Harry, I told you I would provide you with a copy of my registration for
my boat, you are the one who refuses to accept my offer.


Just curious Reggie.......why are you and John puppy dogging all of Harry's
posts once again today? Honest question.

Today looks like it like you were tag teaming and trying to start fights
worse than you 100+ posts on 11-24.

Can you stop it? Can you?


Can you count? Or do you just find it necessary to lie? It's Harry who's
been doing the puppy-dogging. You need to get out of bed earlier.

BTW, neither Harry nor anyone else benefits from your 'ass-istance'.
--
John H

John H. November 27th 07 10:57 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:52:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that
it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats sponsored
by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't pay any
attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was laughing
too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were many
Latinos living in the community.


That was a great small town with a number of churches and other religious
reorganizations. Most small towns have a church or two, but you hit the
mother load of a small town. What was the name of that town again?



How big does a town have to be to have X number of churches? Please explain
your theory. Is "big" dependent on physical area, population in the town
limits, population within a certain distance of the town, or what?


12
--
John H

John H. November 27th 07 11:00 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:53:40 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.



Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such a
parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.


Why are you puppy dogging Harry's posts? Ask him what town the 'parade' of
crucifixion scenes was in. I'm sure he respects you enough to tell you!
--
John H

John H. November 27th 07 11:01 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H

John H. November 27th 07 11:02 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:56:18 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.


A**hole
--
John H

Chuck Gould November 27th 07 11:08 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Nov 26, 7:12�pm, wrote:


I give my wife 20 amps, when she pops the breaker..... - Show quoted text -



If I hooked my wife to 20 amps, I can tell for a fact she'd pop a
breaker. :-)

Vic Smith November 27th 07 11:21 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:01:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.


Here's another "one time shot"
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=161428

Looks like Idaho has these parades too.

--Vic

Chuck Gould November 27th 07 11:23 PM

Getting in the spirit ...(May have found the town)
 
On Nov 27, 1:30�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...


Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.


Remember the newsgroup rule:


"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".


It's related to another rule:


"Without a web link, nothing exists".


Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."


Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.


Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Turns out that there is a "theme park" in Orlando, FL, where the
crucifixtion of Jesus is reenacted (for the benefit of paid ticke
holder, of course) several times each week. Photo shows a realistic
depiction of a man tied to the horizontal portion of the cross, being
whipped along by a Roman soldier- but does not show the man actually
elevated on the vertical member of the cross. Still, it is a memorable
image.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19854489/


Jesus is reduced to a theme park character, running around with a
"wireless microphone", and all in the name of religon, profit, or
both.
I think this is a bit bizarre, but obviously this is a private
enterprise operation and it doesn't have to appeal to everybody.






JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 11:29 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H



OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?



John H. November 27th 07 11:33 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:21:35 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:01:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.


Here's another "one time shot"
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=161428

Looks like Idaho has these parades too.

--Vic


Nope, wrong state.
--
John H

Eisboch November 27th 07 11:34 PM

Getting in the spirit ...(May have found the town)
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Turns out that there is a "theme park" in Orlando, FL, where the
crucifixtion of Jesus is reenacted (for the benefit of paid ticke
holder, of course) several times each week. Photo shows a realistic
depiction of a man tied to the horizontal portion of the cross, being
whipped along by a Roman soldier- but does not show the man actually
elevated on the vertical member of the cross. Still, it is a memorable
image.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19854489/


Jesus is reduced to a theme park character, running around with a
"wireless microphone", and all in the name of religon, profit, or
both.
I think this is a bit bizarre, but obviously this is a private
enterprise operation and it doesn't have to appeal to everybody.



I wonder when the Playstation 2 version will be released.

Eisboch







Chuck Gould November 27th 07 11:34 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Nov 27, 3:02�pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:56:18 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?


I found it and I'm not telling.


A**hole
--
John H


John, here's another eye witness to the same phenomenon;

a Protestant pastor "writhing and dieing on a cross" in a Christmas
parade in Central FL. Either Harry and this nice little old Episcopal
lady are in a conspiracy- or he really saw what he claims to have
seen.


http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...ntroversy.html

John H. November 27th 07 11:35 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:29:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
. ..

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H



OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?


I don't believe Harry saw what he says he saw. That's easily
understandable. The parade to which the URL refers doesn't meet the
requirements of 'Harry's Parade'.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom November 27th 07 11:38 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:29:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to
see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street
of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have
his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear
enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength,
and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics
concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the
year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of
practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do
all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H



OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?


I don't believe Harry saw what he says he saw. That's easily
understandable. The parade to which the URL refers doesn't meet the
requirements of 'Harry's Parade'.
--
John H



John, you're still an idiot. Eat more fish. It's supposed to help your
brains. In your case, a spoonful should have the desired effect.



James R. Gallows III November 27th 07 11:41 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:37:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?
I found it and I'm not telling.
Yeah right, I don't believe you, you are a figment of my imagination.


Am not.


well give SWF my address.


Ok - I will.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 27th 07 11:52 PM

Getting in the spirit ...
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:55:18 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:35:00 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:16:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Rev. Eisboch


That has a certain air of authority about it.

The Right Reverend Eisboch.

I like it.


Oh..... the new "thing," for fundies around here, is to promote
themselves to the position of "Bishop."


Bishop Eisboch sounds like some fifth tier comedian working the salad
bar circuit in the Poconos..


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