Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:01:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.

Here's another "one time shot"
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=161428

Looks like Idaho has these parades too.

--Vic

Getting in the spirit ...(May have found the town)
 

On Nov 27, 1:30�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.

Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

Remember the newsgroup rule:

"If I ain't seen it, it doesn't exist".

It's related to another rule:

"Without a web link, nothing exists".

Ahh, yes, the "totally dependent upon Google newsgroup researchers."

Hey...it is free, and worthy every penny.

Harry,
I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Turns out that there is a "theme park" in Orlando, FL, where the
crucifixtion of Jesus is reenacted (for the benefit of paid ticke
holder, of course) several times each week. Photo shows a realistic
depiction of a man tied to the horizontal portion of the cross, being
whipped along by a Roman soldier- but does not show the man actually
elevated on the vertical member of the cross. Still, it is a memorable
image.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19854489/


Jesus is reduced to a theme park character, running around with a
"wireless microphone", and all in the name of religon, profit, or
both.
I think this is a bit bizarre, but obviously this is a private
enterprise operation and it doesn't have to appeal to everybody.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H


OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?

Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:21:35 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:01:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.

Here's another "one time shot"
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=161428

Looks like Idaho has these parades too.

--Vic

Nope, wrong state.
--
John H

Getting in the spirit ...(May have found the town)
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...

Turns out that there is a "theme park" in Orlando, FL, where the
crucifixtion of Jesus is reenacted (for the benefit of paid ticke
holder, of course) several times each week. Photo shows a realistic
depiction of a man tied to the horizontal portion of the cross, being
whipped along by a Roman soldier- but does not show the man actually
elevated on the vertical member of the cross. Still, it is a memorable
image.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19854489/


Jesus is reduced to a theme park character, running around with a
"wireless microphone", and all in the name of religon, profit, or
both.
I think this is a bit bizarre, but obviously this is a private
enterprise operation and it doesn't have to appeal to everybody.



I wonder when the Playstation 2 version will be released.

Eisboch

Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Nov 27, 3:02�pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:56:18 GMT, James R. Gallows III
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?

I found it and I'm not telling.

A**hole
--
John H

John, here's another eye witness to the same phenomenon;

a Protestant pastor "writhing and dieing on a cross" in a Christmas
parade in Central FL. Either Harry and this nice little old Episcopal
lady are in a conspiracy- or he really saw what he claims to have
seen.


http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...ntroversy.html

Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:29:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
. ..

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H


OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?


I don't believe Harry saw what he says he saw. That's easily
understandable. The parade to which the URL refers doesn't meet the
requirements of 'Harry's Parade'.
--
John H

Getting in the spirit ...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:29:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
.. .

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Nov 27, 12:35 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:03:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05?am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK
wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask
wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! ? ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there
was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened
to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to
see
its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious
parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street
of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have
his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it
be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs
broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear
enough
to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength,
and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry
mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics
concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the
year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of
practicing
Catholics.
He must have seen a "Stations of the Cross" parade around Good
Friday.
Catholics celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ, just as do
all
the
other Christian sects.

Note that the death and crucifixion of Christ are something to be
made
fun
of by Harry. I find little redeeming quality in his comments or
attitude.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, you have to remember here, you are dealing with a fundie
liberal, they are among the most intolerant segments of our society.


Neither you nor Herring have a clue about this.

I was raised Catholic and have been so all my life. I never heard of
such
a parade.

Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, not his death.



http://1episcopalvoice.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html

Page down to "bleedin jesus".


We've already discounted this anomaly. It's not the 'parade' to which
Harry
refers. This was a one time shot.
--
John H


OK - let me get this straight: Someone claims to have seen something just
once, and you don't believe it unless you have proof that it happened more
than once?


I don't believe Harry saw what he says he saw. That's easily
understandable. The parade to which the URL refers doesn't meet the
requirements of 'Harry's Parade'.
--
John H


John, you're still an idiot. Eat more fish. It's supposed to help your
brains. In your case, a spoonful should have the desired effect.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:37:52 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:29:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

James R. Gallows III wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

I would doubt a small town would have any info on a small parade, and I
am sure you are correct, but I am curious, what town is it?
I found it and I'm not telling.
Yeah right, I don't believe you, you are a figment of my imagination.

Am not.

well give SWF my address.

Ok - I will.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:55:18 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:35:00 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:16:28 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Rev. Eisboch

That has a certain air of authority about it.

The Right Reverend Eisboch.

I like it.

Oh..... the new "thing," for fundies around here, is to promote
themselves to the position of "Bishop."

Bishop Eisboch sounds like some fifth tier comedian working the salad
bar circuit in the Poconos..