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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo of
it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that it
was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they
had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed that
it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
..
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?

Getting in the spirit ...
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the list is endless! ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)



One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there
was the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and
got to see its annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie
church congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes,
they had live guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.

It is done in Latin communities and is hundreds of years old, it
definitely is not a fundie type thing. My guess is Harry saw a photo
of it, and really didn't understand what it was, and just guessed
that it was a fundie thing.


Your guess is wrong, crap for brains, and it wasn't in a "Latin"
community.
.
What community was it in? Do you remember the town name or the church?





I certainly remember the community name. It wasn't "a" church. It was a
parade, and there were a number of live Jesus on a Cross floats
sponsored by local churches and other religious organizations. I didn't
pay any attention to the names of the churches or organizations; I was
laughing too hard. At the time I observed the parade, I doubt there were
many Latinos living in the community.

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H


Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to the
fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air Force One
communications. We had a good time there but were happy to leave. Driving
up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was always an adventure.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/city/ponce.shtml

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple
years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a
bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H


Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to
the fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air
Force One communications. We had a good time there but were happy to
leave. Driving up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was
always an adventure.


Between road conditions and drivers who think they're god, it's still an
adventure!

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple
years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a
bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist.
Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base,
the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H


Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to
the fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air
Force One communications. We had a good time there but were happy to
leave. Driving up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was
always an adventure.


Between road conditions and drivers who think they're god, it's still an
adventure!


I remember the road as being very narrow, winding and full of "S" turns.
The truck drivers would stand with one foot on the running board, door open,
trying to see around the corners. In many places the road was too narrow to
allow two vehicles to pass each other.

I also recall that the road passed right by the Arecibo radio telescope
where they have been listening for radio signals from beyond our solar
system.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:20:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Interesting. I lived for three years in Puerto Rico. Must have just
missed
it.


Where and when?

I was stationed at Fort Allen (the Navy's only "|Fort") in Ponce. I
think
it was from about 1972 to 1974 or thereabouts.

Eisboch


I was at Ramey AFB from 1951-1954. We lived in Isabella for a couple years
and then moved on base when quarters became available. Ponce rings a bell,
but I can't remember why. Maybe it was a place to visit as a tourist. Our
big treat was going to the beach at Aguadilla. Once we moved on base, the
big treat was being awakened by B-36's taking off! Noisy buggers!
--
John H


Ponce is on the south side of the island. Fort Allen was a small
transmitter site back when HF was the primary means of communications to the
fleet. It also had a relay transciever that we maintained for Air Force One
communications. We had a good time there but were happy to leave. Driving
up and down the rain forest mountains to San Juan was always an adventure.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/city/ponce.shtml

Eisboch


My dad and I did a lot of inland fishing while there. Catfish was a regular
meal on Friday's, for the whole neighborhood when we lived on base. We
would go bass fishing at another lake. Never caught as many bass. I believe
the Puerto Ricans, at that time anyway, were not eaters of fresh water
fish, so these lakes had plenty of fish and very few people fishing.

I was happy to leave also.
--
John H

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On Nov 27, 4:05�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes.............the
list is endless! � ;-)

Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.

(not home yet but making good progress)

One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.

Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html

Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.

Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.

Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a photo
of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and who was
doing the parade.

Getting in the spirit ...
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy canes............the
list is endless! � ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.

In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.

Remarkable.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html

Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.

Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.



A. These weren't Catholics...they were crazed fundies.
B. There were very few Latinos in the area where I saw the parade when I
saw it.
C. It was a Christmas parade.

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