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HK October 29th 07 04:27 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

In late July, Microsoft said it had hit the 60 million shipment mark
with Vista.

Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of
Vista in its first month and 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100
days.

Microsoft credited Vista with helping it beat Wall Street expectations
and raise financial projections for the rest of the year. The company
reported revenue of US$13.76 billion for the first quarter ended Sept.
30, up 27 percent from the same quarter in 2006.

Revenue in its client segment, which includes all consumer versions of
Windows, was $4.14 billion, edging out the $4.11 billion in revenue from
the Microsoft Business Division where Office is produced.

CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part
to anti-piracy and legalization programs there.

Client revenues, however, did not top those of the first calendar
quarter this year, when Vista was officially launched. Revenues at that
time were $5.32 billion.

Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were higher-priced 'premium'
versions, compared to 59 percent of the copies of Windows -- primarily
XP -- available a year ago.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold
in stores or online.

It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume
licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.

Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for
Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27 percent.

Other highlights from the statistics:

-- Unit sales of Windows Server's premium enterprise edition were up 35
percent year-over-year;

-- A release candidate for Windows Server 2008 has been downloaded more
than one million times in its first month;

-- Unit and revenue growth of SQL Server were both up more than 15 percent;

-- Halo 3 generated $330 million in revenue;

-- Xbox 360 console unit sales increased 90 percent, driven by a price
cut in August and Halo 3-related demand;

-- Client revenues, including those for Vista, are expected to grow
62-64 percent year-over-year in the current fiscal Q2, or 13-14 percent
excluding certain revenue deferrals in the prior year;

-- Microsoft Business Division revenues, including those for Office, are
expected to grow 15-16 percent in Q2 after normalizing for impact of
technology guarantees and pre-shipment deferrals in the prior year;

-- A beta version of Office Communications Server has been downloaded
80,000 times;

-- There are 10,000 customers in the Customer Technical Preview (CTP)
program for PerformancePoint Server, its new business intelligence offering.

Wayne.B October 29th 07 04:52 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 04:56 PM

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HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.


The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,


Harry,
I guess if that just shows if you push Vista at the OEM side, that even
a dog like Vista can get out in the Marketplace. While the number of
copies of Vista is double that of XP, did you read that there were more
than double the number of computers sold?

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.

What did you think of Vista doubling the market share of Macs, now that
is REALLY impressive.

HK October 29th 07 04:57 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?



Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.

I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 04:57 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?


No Wayne, I think i said it, ........ or maybe it was said by
millions of consumers and IT pros, and that is why they are now offering
XP.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 05:01 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?



Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.

I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.


As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 05:09 PM

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that
it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost
double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its
launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It just
goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.


Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for my
son.


JimH,

Yeah, that is what I meant to say. You do know that Dell will exchange
that for a Dell Laptop with XP. According to all the IT pros you will
see a blazing difference between the two. If you contact Dell and let
them know about your son's graduation, they will probably expedite it.

Best of luck to your son, I hope he gets a good assignment that will
keep him safe and sound.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 05:12 PM

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WaIIy wrote:


Duh, that's because the normal consumer hasn't a clue and is forced to
buy it on a new PC.

I wonder in those stats, how many individual copies were purchased.

MS will not reveal those numbers.

Vista is one step closer to the MS 'almost' takeover by MS.

"The answer is controversial, but designed into Vista are several things
equally controversial: 1) Digital Rights Management, 2) Protected Video
Path, and perhaps most controversial, 3) ..." a revocation mechanism
that allows Microsoft to disable drivers of compromised devices..." (
source, Wikipedia). The bottom line seems to be that, for the first
time, Microsoft is now able to dictate hardware design, giving it
unprecedented control over the entire computer industry."

http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/arch...t_to_whom.html

You can carry water for Vista all you want, but you are obviously below
average in operating system analysis.

BTW, did your Vista come with a new computer or did you buy it outright
and if so, for what reason.

There is almost no Vista acceptance at the corporate level.

"PARIS, Sept. 17 -- A European Union court ruled Monday that Microsoft
must share software information with rivals and pay a record $690
million in fines for quashing competition from smaller companies."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ogy/techpolicy


Wayne,
While they did sell twice as many copies of Vista, the general public
purchased twice as many computers. IT depts put their new computer
purchases on hold because they did not want to be beta testers.

Did you see where Mac has doubled their market share since the
introduction of Vista. That is double the market share, not double the
units.

Obviously not all consumers are as dumb as MS thought they were.


[email protected] October 29th 07 05:18 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:


many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.


Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?


Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.


I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.


As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.


I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 05:29 PM

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wrote:
On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:
many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.
And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.
Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?
Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.
I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.

As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.


I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch


If you have an old install disk of WinXp, you can reformat your hard
drive and get rid of all the spyware, freeware, trialware and bloatware
that most companies put on their computer today, and install a WinXP.

Dell is one of the worst companies for loading their computer with stuff
you don't want and didn't ask for. They make a ton of money loading
your computer with that crap. If you check the start up registry it is
amazing how much garbage they put in there that just applifies the
problem with Vista. While you can delete the items from your registry,
too often they have it set up to reinstall the items automatically when
you reboot.

My last computer did not have a lot of freeware and trialware, but I
still reformatted the hardrive and only installed the software I wanted.
On my mothers computer I was lazy, I just uninstalled the software I
didn't want, deleted the items in the start up registry I didn't want,
and then ran registry mechanic to clean up the registry. Not the best
method, but it did make one hell of a difference.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 05:32 PM

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JimH wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.

Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for
my son.


BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.



We are just discussing Vista in general, you only come up in passing
because you mentioned your computer and you wanted to try to tweak it to
speed it up and free up resources.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:13 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.


Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


JohnH,
Don't you think that is a tad bit too obvious?


Wayne.B October 29th 07 06:13 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:03:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


It's a given that all decisions and opinions posted here will be
examined, parsed and discussed in great detail. Those with thin skins
should not bother.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:15 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:03:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


It's a given that all decisions and opinions posted here will be
examined, parsed and discussed in great detail. Those with thin skins
should not bother.


Wayne,
I hate to have to correct you on every post you make, but I think you
forgot the part about beating a dead horse.





Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:17 PM

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JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.


thunder October 29th 07 06:30 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:


Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.


Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal computer
market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51 million PCs sold.
In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold.

HK October 29th 07 06:32 PM

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WaIIy wrote:


BTW, did your Vista come with a new computer or did you buy it outright
and if so, for what reason.



1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Because I wanted to buy it.

Every two years or so I assemble a new desktop computer from what I
believe to be the best or fastest or both components generally
available. The vendor from whom I bought the ASUS motherboard had some
good prices on VISTA OEM, so I asked him to tuck in a copy. So, not only
did I buy a copy of VISTA, I bought it from an OEM supplier sans OS
technical support.

The few issues I have had with VISTA have been minor and easy to
resolve. All of my software but one program works just fine on VISTA,
and when I connected up everything, it found all my hardware and
installed all the necessary drives, but for one, and that issue was
easily resolved.

I run this desktop on the bleeding edge. It is full of beta and even
some alpha software, and it has been rock steady.

It is kind of humorous that my actual experience with VISTA has been
relatively trouble-free and a good learning experience while so many of
you are the wimps I suspected you were.

But, then, I'm just an English major.

Wayne.B October 29th 07 06:32 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:12:28 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Did you see where Mac has doubled their market share since the
introduction of Vista. That is double the market share, not double the
units.


There are lots of people who like Macs but I'm not one of them. To me
they are too cutesy, over priced, over hyped and way too Apple
centric, which is of course the way Apple wants it. I'd probably get
serious about Linux before switching to a Mac.

Obviously not all consumers are as dumb as MS thought they were.


Not at all. Those who have been through the upgrade cycle a few times
are beginning to get quite savy about it. My friends and neighbors
tend to regard me as "their computer expert" and when I advise them to
wait, most nod in agreement. That would change if I heard some cogent
and compelling reasons to upgrade, and if the compatability issues
were largely behind us. I'm still running a lot of relatively old
software that does a good job at what I purchased it for. If it isn't
compatible with a new operating system, what's the point of upgrading
everything unless there are really good reasons? As it stands right
now you not only need a big hardware upgrade to run VISTA, but
probably need to upgrade your application suite as well. I'm
perfectly happy to let the early adopters sort things out, report on
their experiences, and help Microsoft get it debugged. Micrsoft
should compensate their beta testers in my opinion.

HK October 29th 07 06:35 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:03:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


It's a given that all decisions and opinions posted here will be
examined, parsed and discussed in great detail.


Not by me. I already know whose posts are worth reading carefully and
whose are not. These days, I give your posts the 10 seconds they
deserve, but you do get more time than Reggie and a few others.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:43 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
WaIIy wrote:


BTW, did your Vista come with a new computer or did you buy it outright
and if so, for what reason.



1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Because I wanted to buy it.

Every two years or so I assemble a new desktop computer from what I
believe to be the best or fastest or both components generally
available. The vendor from whom I bought the ASUS motherboard had some
good prices on VISTA OEM, so I asked him to tuck in a copy. So, not only
did I buy a copy of VISTA, I bought it from an OEM supplier sans OS
technical support.

The few issues I have had with VISTA have been minor and easy to
resolve. All of my software but one program works just fine on VISTA,
and when I connected up everything, it found all my hardware and
installed all the necessary drives, but for one, and that issue was
easily resolved.

I run this desktop on the bleeding edge. It is full of beta and even
some alpha software, and it has been rock steady.

It is kind of humorous that my actual experience with VISTA has been
relatively trouble-free and a good learning experience while so many of
you are the wimps I suspected you were.

But, then, I'm just an English major.


Harry,
You are definitely on the bleeding edge. Absolutely every software
designer would tell you NEVER install alpa software on your working
desktop. Most would warn you not to install Beta software on your
working desktop.

But then again, you are an English major. Univ. of Kansas can crank out
some really smart ones.

How did you pick Univ. of Kansas out of all the the great state schools
in the general area. New York, Mass, New Jersey etc. While I don't
think of them as a top tier school, it definitely is head and shoulders
over Univ. of Kansas.


John H. October 29th 07 06:59 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT


Sounds like a whole bunch of people will get screwed!

John H. October 29th 07 07:01 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:18:19 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:


many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.


And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.


Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?


Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.


I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.


As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.


I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch


Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.

John H. October 29th 07 07:03 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


" JimH" ask
wrote in message
.. .

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.


Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for
my son.


BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.


Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

HK October 29th 07 07:04 PM

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D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db



VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:10 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db



VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love the
way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a nice
feature.




D-unit October 29th 07 07:16 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"HK" wrote in message . ..
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

In late July, Microsoft said it had hit the 60 million shipment mark
with Vista.

Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of
Vista in its first month and 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100
days.

Microsoft credited Vista with helping it beat Wall Street expectations
and raise financial projections for the rest of the year. The company
reported revenue of US$13.76 billion for the first quarter ended Sept.
30, up 27 percent from the same quarter in 2006.

Revenue in its client segment, which includes all consumer versions of
Windows, was $4.14 billion, edging out the $4.11 billion in revenue from
the Microsoft Business Division where Office is produced.

CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part
to anti-piracy and legalization programs there.

Client revenues, however, did not top those of the first calendar
quarter this year, when Vista was officially launched. Revenues at that
time were $5.32 billion.

Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were higher-priced 'premium'
versions, compared to 59 percent of the copies of Windows -- primarily
XP -- available a year ago.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold
in stores or online.

It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume
licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying
Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of
next year.

Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for
Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27 percent.

Other highlights from the statistics:

-- Unit sales of Windows Server's premium enterprise edition were up 35
percent year-over-year;

-- A release candidate for Windows Server 2008 has been downloaded more
than one million times in its first month;

-- Unit and revenue growth of SQL Server were both up more than 15 percent;

-- Halo 3 generated $330 million in revenue;

-- Xbox 360 console unit sales increased 90 percent, driven by a price
cut in August and Halo 3-related demand;

-- Client revenues, including those for Vista, are expected to grow
62-64 percent year-over-year in the current fiscal Q2, or 13-14 percent
excluding certain revenue deferrals in the prior year;

-- Microsoft Business Division revenues, including those for Office, are
expected to grow 15-16 percent in Q2 after normalizing for impact of
technology guarantees and pre-shipment deferrals in the prior year;

-- A beta version of Office Communications Server has been downloaded
80,000 times;

-- There are 10,000 customers in the Customer Technical Preview (CTP)
program for PerformancePoint Server, its new business intelligence offering.


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db





HK October 29th 07 07:18 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.


Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.



That's right. That email address works just fine. I don't check it
often, but it does work.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:18 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?
If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.


JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.


I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.


Well at least now JimH has Harry's email.


HK October 29th 07 07:21 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db



VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love the
way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a nice
feature.



Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't use
them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:23 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same
amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so
slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with
Vista for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why
do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?
If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill
from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment
on John.


Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.



That's right. That email address works just fine. I don't check it
often, but it does work.


Harry,
How is that any different than just not using a real email address? I
recommend you send JimH your email so he can send you questions directly.

You do know ISP use the individual IP's to verify who sent a post or
email. They really don't care about the email address listed in the
newsreader. Some people who think they really know computers have been
caught when they try to create a sock pocket and forgot that the IP
would remain the same as the one they normally use. ;)


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:24 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that are
actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can have a
computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I love
the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of a
nice feature.



Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't use
them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.


Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?


HK October 29th 07 07:28 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
How is that any different than just not using a real email address? I
recommend you send JimH your email so he can send you questions directly.


It is a real email address, SFB. Obviously it is another one of those
little computer thingies you don't understand. Too bad. Not my job to
answer your questions.

HK October 29th 07 07:35 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that
are actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can
have a computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP. I
love the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell of
a nice feature.



Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't
use them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.


Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?



The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat poops
in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:42 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that
are actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can
have a computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP.
I love the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one hell
of a nice feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't
use them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.


Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?



The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat poops
in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.


Harry,
Did you find the 3D "feature" slowing your computer down to a crawl?


HK October 29th 07 07:51 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that
are actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can
have a computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win XP.
I love the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is one
hell of a nice feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I don't
use them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.

Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?



The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat poops
in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.


Harry,
Did you find the 3D "feature" slowing your computer down to a crawl?



I don't use 3D windows. Whatever assumption you make from that statement
will be as wrong as your statements here that I owned a 17' SeaPro.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 07:52 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer that
are actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more, you can
have a computer that will run Vista as fast as it will run Win
XP. I love the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now that is
one hell of a nice feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I
don't use them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a good
newsgroup for you to get away with that.

Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of the
features you like best?



The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat
poops in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.


Harry,
Did you find the 3D "feature" slowing your computer down to a crawl?



I don't use 3D windows. Whatever assumption you make from that statement
will be as wrong as your statements here that I owned a 17' SeaPro.

Oh, was it an 18' SeaPro, my bad.

So what feature do you love

HK October 29th 07 07:56 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an appropriate
amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Use that same processor and memory setup and XP will still run faster.
Running a warp speed processor to get the same performance as an XP machine
running a supersonic speed CPU is just masking problems.




Sorry; can't run the "same" memory setup on XP. That should give you a
hint, eh? I've been waiting patiently here for someone to bring up
something, anything, and you've come the closest, even though you still
didn't get it. :}




HK October 29th 07 07:58 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Harry,
You might be able to start a great business, selling computer
that are actually designed to run Vista. For only $1,000 more,
you can have a computer that will run Vista as fast as it will
run Win XP. I love the way you get the 3D windows in Vista, now
that is one hell of a nice feature.


Sorry, S.F.B., but I don't "get" 3D windows in vista because I
don't use them.

You obviously know nothing about VISTA and it shows. This is a
good newsgroup for you to get away with that.

Wow, you mean there is more to Vista, do tell. What are some of
the features you like best?



The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat
poops in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.

Harry,
Did you find the 3D "feature" slowing your computer down to a crawl?



I don't use 3D windows. Whatever assumption you make from that
statement will be as wrong as your statements here that I owned a 17'
SeaPro.

Oh, was it an 18' SeaPro, my bad.

So what feature do you love



Told you:


The one that is now packaging up the used kitty litter my Bobcat
poops in, so UPS can dump it on the doorstep of your little townhouse.

Hope that helps.

John H. October 29th 07 08:09 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:35:27 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:03:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


It's a given that all decisions and opinions posted here will be
examined, parsed and discussed in great detail.


Not by me. I already know whose posts are worth reading carefully and
whose are not. These days, I give your posts the 10 seconds they
deserve, but you do get more time than Reggie and a few others.


Do you spend a lot of time analyzing Jimh's decisions?

John H. October 29th 07 08:11 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:


" JimH" ask
wrote in message
.. .

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.

Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.


BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.


Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.


Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.


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