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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:14:27 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:17 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.


Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


What's ragging, Don?

Ahh, the old "Who, me?".


No, asking for a definition. Besides, as you are so apt to say, I wasn't
talking to you.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:58:46 -0400, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:18:19 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:
many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.
And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.
Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?
Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.
I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.
As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.
I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.

Smash it first and fix it second.

*I* was paying him a compliment! But, I guess you are too.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.

And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?

Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.

I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.

As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.

I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch


I understand one of the best Windows boxs is an IMac laptop. Runs Windows
better than any other laptop.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:06:12 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:09:30 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same
amount
of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought
by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with
Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people
make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from
there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment
on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.

I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.

Did you two exchange love notes while you were away.
Mr. Burns may not like that.


How's your mom doing, Don?

Don has already told you several times that he does not appreciate you
bringing up his Mother here. Why are you having a hard time with that
request John H?


You're wrong. You are the one who attributed despicable, horrible,
atrocious motives to my question. Don just followed along.

Actually, I was just wondering how she's doing.

Do you have a power of attorney to be Don's representative now?

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:07:59 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:18:19 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK
wrote:

many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first
quarter
of next year.

And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider
it
ready for prime time.

Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?

Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.

I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.

As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.

I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.

Damn straight.

On the other hand.........Army folks just give up and ask the Marines to
help them. ;-)


There you go! Now you're getting it! There was no 'family attack' as you
and Don like to pretend.

But, what does this ;-) really mean? Do you just wink a lot at
everybody? Or is this something special just between you and me?

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Use that same processor and memory setup and XP will still run faster.
Running a warp speed processor to get the same performance as an XP
machine running a supersonic speed CPU is just masking problems.


Sorry; can't run the "same" memory setup on XP. That should give you a
hint, eh? I've been waiting patiently here for someone to bring up
something, anything, and you've come the closest, even though you still
didn't get it. :}




Depending the processor, you can run up to 64 gb of memory. Does Vista
require even more?

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In article ,
thunder wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:


Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.

Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal
computer
market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51
million PCs sold.
In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold.

Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says
something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market
share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is
currently at 8% market share.
And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells
at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways
more advanced.
But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft
rules.

Marc

--
remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail
http://www.heusser.com

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:28:52 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


Time for another Disney cruise John. Chill. ;-)



Precious! ;-)

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:56 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
...


Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.


All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time.

Eisboch


Oh come on...it's not that bad.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:37:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.

Oh no, just because I managed large corporate systems, I never had
that mentality although there are certainly some who do. I've been
dabbling in home computers for a long time, well before the IBM PC,
MS/DOS, etc. My first was actually a DIY project using a board level
engineering prototype called the SC/MP. It was made by National
Advanced Systems back in the 70s and was programmed in hexadecimal
machine language via a keypad device. Those were the days. Of
course it didn't do much compared to what we now have. My first
"boxed" home computer was the Commodore VIC-20 which used an audio
cassette for input/output. It had a decent Basic compiler and could
do some useful things. Well before all of that I had a TI-59
programmable hand held with all the bells and whistles. It was an
amazing device in its day.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:59:58 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

At some point XP will have too many drawbacks, and you'll be more or
less compelled to go to Vista anyway.

Since we are not yet at that point with Win2K, it seems likely that XP
has a few good years left in it.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:56 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.


All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time.

There's a lot of truth to that unfortunately. Until we all learn to
disagree without being disagreeable it will not likely get better.
Meanwhile anyone new who pokes their head in the door will think
they've stepped into the loony bin.

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HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981


Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.

You haven't got a clue about being an IT manager.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:56 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.

All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time.

There's a lot of truth to that unfortunately. Until we all learn to
disagree without being disagreeable it will not likely get better.
Meanwhile anyone new who pokes their head in the door will think
they've stepped into the loony bin.


We're all following the example you, Reggie, John, Dan, et cetera, set.

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981


Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid
1980s who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could
kind of do things their way instead of his way.

You haven't got a clue about being an IT manager.


Y-A-W-N.

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:56 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.

All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time.

There's a lot of truth to that unfortunately. Until we all learn to
disagree without being disagreeable it will not likely get better.
Meanwhile anyone new who pokes their head in the door will think
they've stepped into the loony bin.


We're all following the example you, Reggie, John, Dan, et cetera, set.

We have all learned from the master, who is you Krause.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:07:53 -0400, HK wrote:

We're all following the example you, Reggie, John, Dan, et cetera, set.

Not so fast, look in the mirror first.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:42:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:37:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.

Oh no, just because I managed large corporate systems, I never had
that mentality although there are certainly some who do. I've been
dabbling in home computers for a long time, well before the IBM PC,
MS/DOS, etc. My first was actually a DIY project using a board level
engineering prototype called the SC/MP. It was made by National
Advanced Systems back in the 70s and was programmed in hexadecimal
machine language via a keypad device. Those were the days. Of
course it didn't do much compared to what we now have. My first
"boxed" home computer was the Commodore VIC-20 which used an audio
cassette for input/output. It had a decent Basic compiler and could
do some useful things. Well before all of that I had a TI-59
programmable hand held with all the bells and whistles. It was an
amazing device in its day.

Oh man does that bring back memories.

When I was in high school, the Math Club used to work at the Sylvania
plant over in Danvers "programming" one of their computers - with
phone jacks of all things.

My first exposure to the mini-computer was a Digital Research CP/M
machine working with the IBM P/LM compiler. From there it was a few
home built computers that essentially did nothing more than play Lunar
Lander, Kingdom and Collassal Cave. Used to bootstrap the earlier
computers eventually moving the paper tape which I found at a ham flea
market.

Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to
the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with
that. It still runs.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:21:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Yeah, obviously. Wayne apparently hasn't bought a new computer since he
retired.

Darn right, I buy new computers when I need them, not until. I built
a "Super PC" once similar to what you do. It was nifty at the time
but obsolete in a year or so. Why bother unless it is just a hobby to
do that sort of thing.

I have never been obsessed with a need to have the "latest and
greatest". That's all Detroit marketing BS as far as I'm concerned,
designed to separate the gullible from their money.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:37:04 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)


Oh, and yes, that *was* so very precious! ;-) :-)

You are really losing it John. Time for another snot nosed brat filled
Disney cruise? ;-)

Knock it off guys, it's getting tiresome.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:37:04 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)

Oh, and yes, that *was* so very precious! ;-) :-)
You are really losing it John. Time for another snot nosed brat filled
Disney cruise? ;-)

Knock it off guys, it's getting tiresome.


Oh? Are you back to "leading by example" again, or is this just a
temporary pause until you and Reggie start playing "Who's the Best
Snark?" again?

Just curious, because for a couple of weeks just about everyone was
behaving properly, except for you, Reggie, and a few of the lost-cause
imbeciles who hang out here. Even Herring was being nice.

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HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981

If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when
you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do
this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few
weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

Most of us spell intricacies correctly.

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981

If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when
you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do
this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few
weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

Most of us spell intricacies correctly.


Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in...
He's the self-taught IT guy.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:45:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Just curious, because for a couple of weeks just about everyone was
behaving properly, except for you, Reggie, and a few of the lost-cause
imbeciles who hang out here. Even Herring was being nice.

Everbody gets their turn, then it's time to stop.

You to.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:42:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:37:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.
Oh no, just because I managed large corporate systems, I never had
that mentality although there are certainly some who do. I've been
dabbling in home computers for a long time, well before the IBM PC,
MS/DOS, etc. My first was actually a DIY project using a board level
engineering prototype called the SC/MP. It was made by National
Advanced Systems back in the 70s and was programmed in hexadecimal
machine language via a keypad device. Those were the days. Of
course it didn't do much compared to what we now have. My first
"boxed" home computer was the Commodore VIC-20 which used an audio
cassette for input/output. It had a decent Basic compiler and could
do some useful things. Well before all of that I had a TI-59
programmable hand held with all the bells and whistles. It was an
amazing device in its day.

Oh man does that bring back memories.

When I was in high school, the Math Club used to work at the Sylvania
plant over in Danvers "programming" one of their computers - with
phone jacks of all things.

My wife claims to be a mathlete when she was in high school. Alternate
for the It's Academic team too.

My first exposure to the mini-computer was a Digital Research CP/M
machine working with the IBM P/LM compiler. From there it was a few
home built computers that essentially did nothing more than play Lunar
Lander, Kingdom and Collassal Cave. Used to bootstrap the earlier
computers eventually moving the paper tape which I found at a ham flea
market.

I really liked programing in P/L M, P/L 1, P/L M86. Great languages.

Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to
the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with
that. It still runs.

You should donate it to a computer museum.

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981

If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when
you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do
this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few
weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

Most of us spell intricacies correctly.


Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in...
He's the self-taught IT guy.

You still have my file, but you have done a poor job of keeping it up to
date. You are slipping Krause.

BTW, any pictures of your 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat?

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BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK
wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction.
Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981

If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also,
when you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want
to do this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for
a few weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

Most of us spell intricacies correctly.


Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in...
He's the self-taught IT guy.

You still have my file, but you have done a poor job of keeping it up to
date. You are slipping Krause.

BTW, any pictures of your 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat?

Lots of pictures.

Rockville, Damascus, Gaithersburg...one of those crowded 'burbs, right?
I mean, I can't tell them apart.

I didn't make the BAR-Robbins connection until you revealed yourself as
the "self-made" IT go-fer.

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:29:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to
the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with
that. It still runs.

Yes, and it was a great glass teletype for logging onto Compuserve and
some of the early Bulletin Board systems. Those were the days. Look
how far we've come and how little has changed. :-) I once caught
something resembling a virus on the "64".

There used to be a company that offered a service close to universal
connectivity. You dialed into one number and from there you could
connect to a variety of different systems. Can't remember the name of
it but at the time it seemed like a great concept. Old stuff to those
on the old ARPANET I suppose.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:46:43 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Lead by example Wayne...........something we can all do.

Yes *we* could.

If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:29:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to
the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with
that. It still runs.

Yes, and it was a great glass teletype for logging onto Compuserve and
some of the early Bulletin Board systems. Those were the days. Look
how far we've come and how little has changed. :-) I once caught
something resembling a virus on the "64".

There used to be a company that offered a service close to universal
connectivity. You dialed into one number and from there you could
connect to a variety of different systems. Can't remember the name of
it but at the time it seemed like a great concept. Old stuff to those
on the old ARPANET I suppose.


I used to dial into the actual NSA from a phone number assigned to me as
an outside contractor. When we moved to North Florida, I was assigned a
phone number there. It was only good for email and some controlled
message boards, but it was kinda fun.

In the 1980s, I was a partner in a rather infamous dial up chat board
that started out with four incoming phone lines, grew to eight, then 16,
then 32. That was even more fun. This was 1984 or so, I think. Maybe a
year later.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:10:08 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Lead by example. :-)

Lead away, we're all watching.

And let's make it a *good* example. :-)

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JimH wrote:



My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is
AMD
Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB).

I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum.
Here
is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of
the
experts in the forum on computers

I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful
and
I am delighted with it.
-----------------------------------
Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come
out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista
today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have
forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same
arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over
again.

The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small
business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large
commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their
mega
profits.

Take no notice and enjoy it.


JimH,

I have to throw in the towel, when you provide irrefutable proof like
this what can I say. It is obvious Vista is a supreme OS, that will not
slow down your machine and will not cause any problems. That probably
is why MS is in no hurry to release their SP1 update.

Are you going to follow Harry's advice and add an additional 2 GB of RAM?

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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK
wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.
You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction.
Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what?
Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981

If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also,
when you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want
to do this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for
a few weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

Most of us spell intricacies correctly.


Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in...
He's the self-taught IT guy.

You still have my file, but you have done a poor job of keeping it up
to date. You are slipping Krause.

BTW, any pictures of your 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat?

Lots of pictures.

Rockville, Damascus, Gaithersburg...one of those crowded 'burbs, right?
I mean, I can't tell them apart.

I didn't make the BAR-Robbins connection until you revealed yourself as
the "self-made" IT go-fer.

You should be ashamed of your self. Old age is very unkind to you. Did
you get your afternoon nap today?

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:46:43 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Lead by example Wayne...........something we can all do.

Yes *we* could.

If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else.


That'll be fun to watch. I'll remind you of your pledge.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to
the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with
that. It still runs.

You should donate it to a computer museum.

I would, but I have a problem with old pieces like this - I tend to
keep them.

Besides, you can't get video games like the ones that ran on the C-64
- in particular "Omega Race" which I still enjoy playing once in a
while. :)

There is a ham here in Woodstock who still has his packet node running
on a C-64.

I've got my packet node, weather station and KAM running on a old 486
machine which, for my money, was one of the best processors ever
designed. It's gone through one power supply, but still runs like a
champ. I don't think it's been turned off in ten years or so (power
interruptions excepted).

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:46:43 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Lead by example Wayne...........something we can all do.

Yes *we* could.

If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else.

Please be careful, my back is sore from tonights workout at the SPA.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Are you going to follow Harry's advice and add an additional 2 GB of RAM?

It's not necessary for most apps, and not really necessary for some I
run, but in some circumstances, the ability to address about another gig
and a quarter of RAM speeds up some processes.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:46:43 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

Lead by example Wayne...........something we can all do.

Yes *we* could.
If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else.

Please be careful, my back is sore from tonights workout at the SPA.





I'll bet.

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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in...
He's the self-taught IT guy.


This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of
years ago?



You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend
marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years.
Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was
rather quickly after I changed my from address.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Are you going to follow Harry's advice and add an additional 2 GB of RAM?

It's not necessary for most apps, and not really necessary for some I
run, but in some circumstances, the ability to address about another gig
and a quarter of RAM speeds up some processes.



Address? Address? You can address all of the memory space all of the
time. What makes a processor run faster is to have a great pre-fetch or
a lot of real and fast memory available.