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Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years. Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was rather quickly after I changed my from address. Actually, Bertie, you spent almost the entire time in my bozo bin, not because I thought you were Bertie, but because your posts were just like Bertie's. Therefore, all those posts you posted that were aimed at me...why...how sad...I never saw them. |
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HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Are you going to follow Harry's advice and add an additional 2 GB of RAM? It's not necessary for most apps, and not really necessary for some I run, but in some circumstances, the ability to address about another gig and a quarter of RAM speeds up some processes. Address? Address? You can address all of the memory space all of the time. What makes a processor run faster is to have a great pre-fetch or a lot of real and fast memory available. We're not talking about the same thing here, Bertie. Have a nice night. |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years. Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was rather quickly after I changed my from address. Actually, Bertie, you spent almost the entire time in my bozo bin, not because I thought you were Bertie, but because your posts were just like Bertie's. Therefore, all those posts you posted that were aimed at me...why...how sad...I never saw them. He swings and he strikes out agian. How is that 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat? |
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... snip.. Actually, I was just wondering how she's doing. Do you have a power of attorney to be Don's representative now? John... you have no interest in how she's doing. Everyone who bothers to read your posts knows your little game. How about this... she's doing fine until I tell you different. Herring is back to his annoying "How's you mom" questions? Thought he gave that up. |
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote: BAR wrote: Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years. Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was rather quickly after I changed my from address. Actually, Bertie, you spent almost the entire time in my bozo bin, not because I thought you were Bertie, but because your posts were just like Bertie's. Therefore, all those posts you posted that were aimed at me...why...how sad...I never saw them. He swings and he strikes out agian. How is that 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat? How's your front loading garage? |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:41:46 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:
Lead by example. :-) Lead away, we're all watching. And let's make it a *good* example. :-) You first. ;-) OK. You caught me in an agreeable mood. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:42:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
Address? Address? You can address all of the memory space all of the time. What makes a processor run faster is to have a great pre-fetch or a lot of real and fast memory available. That's true at the hardware level. At the software level the best use is for preloading key database components into a large buffer store or virtual disk. Other than Harry I doubt that many of us are hosting large databases. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:29:40 -0400, HK wrote:
I used to dial into the actual NSA No Such Agency but they won't be amused. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:37:26 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:
If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else. After I am done with you.............fair enough? :-) Of course, as long as you don't get Eerie about it. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... snip.. Actually, I was just wondering how she's doing. Do you have a power of attorney to be Don's representative now? John... you have no interest in how she's doing. Everyone who bothers to read your posts knows your little game. How about this... she's doing fine until I tell you different. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. snip... who is you Krause. Who is you Bar? |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years. Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was rather quickly after I changed my from address. Actually, Bertie, you spent almost the entire time in my bozo bin, not because I thought you were Bertie, but because your posts were just like Bertie's. Therefore, all those posts you posted that were aimed at me...why...how sad...I never saw them. He swings and he strikes out agian. How is that 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat? How's your front loading garage? It's find, do you want to post a picture of it here to prove to everyone that you really are an insecure lonely old man? |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. This can't be that pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup a couple of years ago? You and Krause should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a "pretend marine who soiled this newsgroup" to fool you for a couple of years. Some other "pretend marines" and an army doggie figured out who I was rather quickly after I changed my from address. Great... now all we need is Skipper & Karen to return and we're right back where we started. It's enough to send me on a Mickey Mouse cruise. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:42:16 -0400, BAR wrote: Address? Address? You can address all of the memory space all of the time. What makes a processor run faster is to have a great pre-fetch or a lot of real and fast memory available. That's true at the hardware level. At the software level the best use is for preloading key database components into a large buffer store or virtual disk. Other than Harry I doubt that many of us are hosting large databases. Harry has a database with information about all of us. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Marc Heusser" d wrote in message ... In article , thunder wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote: Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal computer market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51 million PCs sold. In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold. Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is currently at 8% market share. And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways more advanced. But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft rules. Marc -- remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail http://www.heusser.com But Apple also includes the selling of 90 million Ipods. Lot of profit there. Maybe Microsoft should include the selling of hundreds of Zune's |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP. All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time. Eisboch Starting? Where's Tom's Discombobulater? |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... D-unit wrote: Dear MS (Bill) Can I get a refund on my copy Vista? I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like. An OS shouldn't do that. I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all. I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out. I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know. db VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use. Bet you're not. Use that same processor and memory setup and XP will still run faster. Running a warp speed processor to get the same performance as an XP machine running a supersonic speed CPU is just masking problems. Sorry; can't run the "same" memory setup on XP. That should give you a hint, eh? I've been waiting patiently here for someone to bring up something, anything, and you've come the closest, even though you still didn't get it. :} Depending the processor, you can run up to 64 gb of memory. Does Vista require even more? XP doesn't recognize 64 gigs of memory. 3.5 gigs with 64 bit system and 3 gigs with 32 bit and a /3gb ini qualifier. But that also inclueds virtual memory. MS DOS etc always never new how to use memory. |
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"Marc Heusser" d wrote in message ... In article , thunder wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote: Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal computer market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51 million PCs sold. In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold. Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is currently at 8% market share. And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways more advanced. But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft rules. Marc -- remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail http://www.heusser.com But Apple also includes the selling of 90 million Ipods. Lot of profit there. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:29:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Proably the most fun computer was the VIC-20 and when I upgraded to the Commodore 64 I was in hog heaven - man, could I do some stuff with that. It still runs. Yes, and it was a great glass teletype for logging onto Compuserve and some of the early Bulletin Board systems. Those were the days. Look how far we've come and how little has changed. :-) I once caught something resembling a virus on the "64". There used to be a company that offered a service close to universal connectivity. You dialed into one number and from there you could connect to a variety of different systems. Can't remember the name of it but at the time it seemed like a great concept. Old stuff to those on the old ARPANET I suppose. My first system was an NCR 315. 6 microsecond clock cycle. 10K decimal memory. 12 bit machine. Mag cards and tape and paper tape an punch cards input. Online bank system with 110 baud lease lines. When they first demonstrated a 9600 baud modem and the 1966 Fall Joint Computer Conference in San Francisco, we were stunned. First personal computer was a North Star S100 computer. Then the first IBM PC was about 1982. A few versions of it later and I still have a ROM Emulator that plugs into the XT Bus. Then worked on a DEC 11/34 as the interface to a $250k laser printer that hooked into an IBM 360 I/O Channel. Emulated an IBM 3800. The 370 had 8 megabytes of memory. Designed disk controllers with Mote 6800 and then a 68000 processor. The early code was done on Tandy 68K running SCO Unix. Then converted to SUN workstations. As my wife says the first computer I showed her that I worked on filled a large room. And cost $150k in 1960 dollars. Lots more power in my desktop $500 and my $1000 Dell laptop. Except for the I/O channels. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:21:22 -0400, HK wrote: Yeah, obviously. Wayne apparently hasn't bought a new computer since he retired. Darn right, I buy new computers when I need them, not until. I built a "Super PC" once similar to what you do. It was nifty at the time but obsolete in a year or so. Why bother unless it is just a hobby to do that sort of thing. I have never been obsessed with a need to have the "latest and greatest". That's all Detroit marketing BS as far as I'm concerned, designed to separate the gullible from their money. And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. |
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In article ,
"Calif Bill" wrote: "Marc Heusser" d wrote in message ... Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is currently at 8% market share. And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways more advanced. But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft rules. Marc But Apple also includes the selling of 90 million Ipods. Lot of profit there. Above numbers of market share are for computers (desktop and laptop - in laptops it is even higher). in iPods it is rather like 70%. As for the valuation: it also includes the iPhone - but luckily all three divisions are profitable. Anyway: Back to boating :-) Marc -- remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail http://www.heusser.com |
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BAR wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "Marc Heusser" d wrote in message ... In article , thunder wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote: Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal computer market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51 million PCs sold. In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold. Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is currently at 8% market share. And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways more advanced. But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft rules. Marc -- remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail http://www.heusser.com But Apple also includes the selling of 90 million Ipods. Lot of profit there. Maybe Microsoft should include the selling of hundreds of Zune's Did they sell that many Zunes? I've never seen one. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:22 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. Yes, and less risk also. |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "Marc Heusser" d wrote in message ... In article , thunder wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote: Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. Almost double? Doesn't seem that impressive when you consider the personal computer market has almost doubled since XP was introduced. In 2002, there were 51 million PCs sold. In 2007, 96 million are expected to be sold. Apple by now has half the market capitalization of Microsoft, which says something as it is bigger than Oracle, IBM, Intel or HP. Its market share probably grew 37% last year (estimate for 4th quarter). It is currently at 8% market share. And its newest operating system release (Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") sells at USD 129 (everyone gets the "ultimate" version) - and is in many ways more advanced. But still, in absolute numbers of operating systems sold, Microsoft rules. Marc -- remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail http://www.heusser.com But Apple also includes the selling of 90 million Ipods. Lot of profit there. Maybe Microsoft should include the selling of hundreds of Zune's Did they sell that many Zunes? I've never seen one. Yes, they did sell a few hundred, but the people who purchased them are too ashamed to display them. They keep them hidden. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:22 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. Yes, and less risk also. To buy a ready-made PC with the high end specs of the last one I built would have cost nearly twice as much from one of the only one or two vendors that actually builds such machines. Most of the "high end" PCs from the big name vendors incorporate some really annoying hardware shortcuts, or have padded out prices because of silly features, such as tricked out cases with lighting effects. |
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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:22 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. Yes, and less risk also. To buy a ready-made PC with the high end specs of the last one I built would have cost nearly twice as much from one of the only one or two vendors that actually builds such machines. Most of the "high end" PCs from the big name vendors incorporate some really annoying hardware shortcuts, or have padded out prices because of silly features, such as tricked out cases with lighting effects. One of those silly features is factoring the cost of support, how would you like to talk to idiots like yourself every day whining about their computer. |
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HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:22 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. Yes, and less risk also. To buy a ready-made PC with the high end specs of the last one I built would have cost nearly twice as much from one of the only one or two vendors that actually builds such machines. Most of the "high end" PCs from the big name vendors incorporate some really annoying hardware shortcuts, or have padded out prices because of silly features, such as tricked out cases with lighting effects. One of those silly features is factoring the cost of support, The problem is NONE of the large computer companies really provide good support. The best is mediocre. It is quicker to solve the problem yourself than to use customer none-service. I had a blue screen of death problems with my brand new Dell (less than a week old). The screen said my hard drive was corrupted and to contact the mfg'ers. The service tech had me disconnecting every single item in the box (DVD, Hard Drive, CPU etc.) After we did all of this, and the problem continued, I asked him about my 3 year in home service program. His reply was "Yes you have a 3 year in home service agreement, but right now we are diagnosing the problem, once we have figured out what the problem is, then we will send out a technician. When I told him the Blue Screen told me it was a computed hard drive, he said we still needed to continue with the diagnostics. After 4 hrs of pulling each hardware item out, reinstalling the item, plugging all wires into the system, and repeating the same procedure over again, it still would not boot up. I finally said, "look you really need to send someone out to replace the hard drive or I will have to return this computer", he asked me if I would like to have an RTV number. Dell finds it cheaper to return the product and lose the sale, than to actually send out a tech to repair the product. Don't plan on having GOOD customer support from any of the big guys. If you buy from one of the smaller guys, you will pay for the Good support. |
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JimH wrote:
That processor was an *upgrade*. Your son will love it. It is nice to see how proud you are of your son and his accomplishment of tackling a difficult task and succeeding. When does he find out his next assignment. I would assume he now moves onto his next phase of training. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:37:04 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:39 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... D-unit wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... D-unit wrote: Dear MS (Bill) Can I get a refund on my copy Vista? I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like. An OS shouldn't do that. I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all. I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out. I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know. db VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use. Bet you're not. Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2. Holy crikey. My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded. (again my fault) I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use. Its like trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together. db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint" Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick or two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper amount of member does a better job handling several open apps simultaneously? I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program, and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of the apps crash. Try that with XP. Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll build a new 64-bit box. Cheers. My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB). I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum. Here is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of the experts in the forum on computers I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful and I am delighted with it. ----------------------------------- Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over again. The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their mega profits. Take no notice and enjoy it. -------------------------------------------------- Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-) Oh, and yes, that *was* so very precious! ;-) :-) You are really losing it John. Time for another snot nosed brat filled Disney cruise? ;-) I would love to. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:42:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:37:04 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote: Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-) Oh, and yes, that *was* so very precious! ;-) :-) You are really losing it John. Time for another snot nosed brat filled Disney cruise? ;-) Knock it off guys, it's getting tiresome. It was much quieter when Jimh had several folks 'filtered'. Maybe he'll do us a favor and put the folks back in there! |
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: That processor was an *upgrade*. Your son will love it. It is nice to see how proud you are of your son and his accomplishment of tackling a difficult task and succeeding. When does he find out his next assignment. I would assume he now moves onto his next phase of training. Thanks. After a 10 day leave at home he flies to NC for infantry/combat training then onto specialty training. I believe those 2 activities take up about 4 months. Did he have a guaranteed contract for an MOS or did he go open contract? If open contract what has the USMC in its infinite wisdom decided his contributions would be most beneficial to the Corps? |
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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: That processor was an *upgrade*. Your son will love it. It is nice to see how proud you are of your son and his accomplishment of tackling a difficult task and succeeding. When does he find out his next assignment. I would assume he now moves onto his next phase of training. Thanks. After a 10 day leave at home he flies to NC for infantry/combat training then onto specialty training. I believe those 2 activities take up about 4 months. I suggest he picks a specialty that keeps him in the states! |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:20:17 -0400, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote: VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use. You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music.... Ridiculous. "640k of memory should be enough for anybody" Bill Gates, circa 1981 If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS. Most of us spell intricacies correctly. Bert A. Robbins, of Rockville, chimes in... He's the self-taught IT guy. You still have my file, but you have done a poor job of keeping it up to date. You are slipping Krause. BTW, any pictures of your 36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat? Lots of pictures. Rockville, Damascus, Gaithersburg...one of those crowded 'burbs, right? I mean, I can't tell them apart. I didn't make the BAR-Robbins connection until you revealed yourself as the "self-made" IT go-fer. Gosh, Harry! Bert and I have been talking golf for ages. I'm really surprised you didn't make the connection. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:29:46 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . snip.. Actually, I was just wondering how she's doing. Do you have a power of attorney to be Don's representative now? John... you have no interest in how she's doing. Everyone who bothers to read your posts knows your little game. How about this... she's doing fine until I tell you different. That'll work! I'm glad to hear it. |
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While Microsoft is selling Vista, it is only because of the monopolistic
hold on the bundling aspect of the supply chain. Remember, how many sold in a monopoly is not an indication of how many people are running it. There are not too many people actually buying Vista as an unbundled product. I estimate 1/2 are downgrading to XP in the consumer market, and 90% are doing the same in the business market. That is why companies like Dell didn't get the usual hardware sales bounce of previous major releases of Microsoft Windows. Vista is an Edsel. It is easier to learn Red Hat Linux. NOVL is today where I expect MSFT to be in 15-20 years. A once on the top flop. "HK" wrote in message . .. Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing. Eric Lai, Computerworld Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. In late July, Microsoft said it had hit the 60 million shipment mark with Vista. Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of Vista in its first month and 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100 days. Microsoft credited Vista with helping it beat Wall Street expectations and raise financial projections for the rest of the year. The company reported revenue of US$13.76 billion for the first quarter ended Sept. 30, up 27 percent from the same quarter in 2006. Revenue in its client segment, which includes all consumer versions of Windows, was $4.14 billion, edging out the $4.11 billion in revenue from the Microsoft Business Division where Office is produced. CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part to anti-piracy and legalization programs there. Client revenues, however, did not top those of the first calendar quarter this year, when Vista was officially launched. Revenues at that time were $5.32 billion. Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were higher-priced 'premium' versions, compared to 59 percent of the copies of Windows -- primarily XP -- available a year ago. The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold in stores or online. It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter of next year. Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27 percent. Other highlights from the statistics: -- Unit sales of Windows Server's premium enterprise edition were up 35 percent year-over-year; -- A release candidate for Windows Server 2008 has been downloaded more than one million times in its first month; -- Unit and revenue growth of SQL Server were both up more than 15 percent; -- Halo 3 generated $330 million in revenue; -- Xbox 360 console unit sales increased 90 percent, driven by a price cut in August and Halo 3-related demand; -- Client revenues, including those for Vista, are expected to grow 62-64 percent year-over-year in the current fiscal Q2, or 13-14 percent excluding certain revenue deferrals in the prior year; -- Microsoft Business Division revenues, including those for Office, are expected to grow 15-16 percent in Q2 after normalizing for impact of technology guarantees and pre-shipment deferrals in the prior year; -- A beta version of Office Communications Server has been downloaded 80,000 times; -- There are 10,000 customers in the Customer Technical Preview (CTP) program for PerformancePoint Server, its new business intelligence offering. |
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Is there a new sherrif in town? Giddy-up. This should be fun.
"HK" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:46:43 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote: Lead by example Wayne...........something we can all do. Yes *we* could. If you can straighten out Harry I'll tackle everyone else. That'll be fun to watch. I'll remind you of your pledge. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:22 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: And I can buy more computer already built and tested for less money than a DIY project. Yes, and less risk also. What risk? I buy better quality products for my DIYs than the "name" system integrators. I'd rather deal directly with ATI or NVIDIA or one of the major league hard drive manufacturers than one of the non-English speaking idiots in customer support at your average "name" computer computer. |
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:36:07 -0400, HK wrote:
What risk? Have all of your self assembled PCs worked right out of the box? I've built more than a few myself, the vast majority of which worked just fine. When they don't though, you are on your own for troubleshooting and problem isolation. If you buy pre-assembled and it doesn't work all you have to do is call up and get a RMA number. |
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