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John H. October 29th 07 08:12 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.


I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.

John H. October 29th 07 08:14 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:32:37 -0400, HK wrote:

WaIIy wrote:


BTW, did your Vista come with a new computer or did you buy it outright
and if so, for what reason.



1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Because I wanted to buy it.

Every two years or so I assemble a new desktop computer from what I
believe to be the best or fastest or both components generally
available. The vendor from whom I bought the ASUS motherboard had some
good prices on VISTA OEM, so I asked him to tuck in a copy. So, not only
did I buy a copy of VISTA, I bought it from an OEM supplier sans OS
technical support.

The few issues I have had with VISTA have been minor and easy to
resolve. All of my software but one program works just fine on VISTA,
and when I connected up everything, it found all my hardware and
installed all the necessary drives, but for one, and that issue was
easily resolved.

I run this desktop on the bleeding edge. It is full of beta and even
some alpha software, and it has been rock steady.

It is kind of humorous that my actual experience with VISTA has been
relatively trouble-free and a good learning experience while so many of
you are the wimps I suspected you were.

But, then, I'm just an English major.


Who are the wimps? Is anyone who doesn't use Vista a wimp?

HK October 29th 07 08:17 PM

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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.



Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.




Apparently all Herring's vacation did was rest him up so he could return
to being his snarky old self. I suppose if I spent a week aboard a
Disney cruise ship awash with rugrats and so many pathogens the crew had
to hand out hand wipes, I might be off my feed, too.

John H. October 29th 07 08:25 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:18:00 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?
If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.


Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.



That's right. That email address works just fine. I don't check it
often, but it does work.


That will save a lot of confusion and acrimony. Jimh can just tell you his
decisions about everything without getting comments from any others in the
group.

Thanks.

Wayne.B October 29th 07 08:35 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:35:27 -0400, HK wrote:

Not by me. I already know whose posts are worth reading carefully and
whose are not. These days, I give your posts the 10 seconds they
deserve, but you do get more time than Reggie and a few others.


Harry, it bothers me not whether you read my posts or otherwise. Like
a good umpire, I'll continue to call things as I see them.

HK October 29th 07 08:38 PM

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D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db


VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use. Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"






Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick
or two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper
amount of member does a better job handling several open apps
simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these
apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of
the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



Wayne.B October 29th 07 08:42 PM

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:43:40 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

How did you pick Univ. of Kansas out of all the the great state schools
in the general area. New York, Mass, New Jersey etc. While I don't
think of them as a top tier school, it definitely is head and shoulders
over Univ. of Kansas.


It was the attraction of being near Skipper in Derby. I believe they
were quite close at one time.

HK October 29th 07 08:48 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:43:40 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

How did you pick Univ. of Kansas out of all the the great state schools
in the general area. New York, Mass, New Jersey etc. While I don't
think of them as a top tier school, it definitely is head and shoulders
over Univ. of Kansas.


It was the attraction of being near Skipper in Derby. I believe they
were quite close at one time.



The only thing I knew about Wichita (home of Skipper) in those days was
that it was filled with the dumbest right-wingers on the face of the
planet. I'm not sure things have changed much there.

When I started working at the KC Star, there were two threats oft
repeated by the city editor...if you f*cked up, you were sent out to the
western Kansas bureaus, and if you really fu*ked up, you were sent down
to the Wichita bureau.

In those days, The Star was a real newspaper. Sadly, like many other
papers, it is now part of the chain of newspaper mediocrity.

Calif Bill October 29th 07 08:48 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db



VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an appropriate
amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Use that same processor and memory setup and XP will still run faster.
Running a warp speed processor to get the same performance as an XP machine
running a supersonic speed CPU is just masking problems.



Wayne.B October 29th 07 08:53 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.


You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 08:54 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to
use. Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"






Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick
or two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper
amount of member does a better job handling several open apps
simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these
apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of
the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



Harry,
I thought you said you sold all your digital cameras and was only going
to shot film

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 08:55 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
WaIIy wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:38 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:
many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.
And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.
Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?
Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.
I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.
As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.
I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch

If you have an old install disk of WinXp, you can reformat your hard
drive and get rid of all the spyware, freeware, trialware and bloatware
that most companies put on their computer today, and install a WinXP.

Dell is one of the worst companies for loading their computer with stuff
you don't want and didn't ask for. They make a ton of money loading
your computer with that crap. If you check the start up registry it is
amazing how much garbage they put in there that just applifies the
problem with Vista. While you can delete the items from your registry,
too often they have it set up to reinstall the items automatically when
you reboot.

My last computer did not have a lot of freeware and trialware, but I
still reformatted the hardrive and only installed the software I wanted.
On my mothers computer I was lazy, I just uninstalled the software I
didn't want, deleted the items in the start up registry I didn't want,
and then ran registry mechanic to clean up the registry. Not the best
method, but it did make one hell of a difference.



try

http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml


I actually use Spybot and Hijack This to review the start up directory.
I just like the interface better.

Don White October 29th 07 09:05 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"John H." wrote in message
...

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.



Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.



thunder October 29th 07 09:06 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:38:49 -0400, HK wrote:


Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.


Yeah, it about time Windows caught up. I've been running a true 64 bit system for several
years now. Linux ;-)

Don White October 29th 07 09:09 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount
of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.


I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.


Did you two exchange love notes while you were away.
Mr. Burns may not like that.



D-unit October 29th 07 09:28 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"HK" wrote in message ...
D-unit wrote:


Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db



VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use. Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"





Vic Smith October 29th 07 09:59 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:38:49 -0400, HK wrote:

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these
apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of
the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.

What apps you use should always drive the OS decision.
And *most* new software will be developed with Vista in mind.
XP will be good for many more years for most people,
but if I was buying a PC/Laptop with 64 bit processor, I'd chose
Vista as the "free" OS to bundle in.
At some point XP will have too many drawbacks, and you'll be more or
less compelled to go to Vista anyway.

--Vic

Vic Smith October 29th 07 10:11 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:53:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.


You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.


Most home computer users are pretty clueless about what's in the box,
and their needs can be met by a 486 cpu or some such.
I play high demand games and am just finding my 865PE chipset and
AGP graphics are approaching the end of their usefulness.
Then there are "Powerusers" like Harry, who demand faster
hardware/software/multitasking/glitz.
Bottom line is without newer/faster there's not much money to be made.
There's some planned obsolescence in there.

--Vic

HK October 29th 07 10:12 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to
use. Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"






Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick
or two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper
amount of member does a better job handling several open apps
simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and
at the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email
program, and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all
these apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and
none of the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there
are some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon
as some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and
I'll build a new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



Harry,
I thought you said you sold all your digital cameras and was only going
to shot film


Wrong again, SFB.

[email protected] October 29th 07 10:18 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Oct 29, 5:59 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:38:49 -0400, HK wrote:

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these
apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of
the apps crash.


Try that with XP.


Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.


What apps you use should always drive the OS decision.
And *most* new software will be developed with Vista in mind.
XP will be good for many more years for most people,
but if I was buying a PC/Laptop with 64 bit processor, I'd chose
Vista as the "free" OS to bundle in.
At some point XP will have too many drawbacks, and you'll be more or
less compelled to go to Vista anyway.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Of course dual boot is still an option but you have to do Vista first.


HK October 29th 07 10:21 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db
VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.

Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use.
Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"





Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick or
two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper amount
of member does a better job handling several open apps simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost instantaneously.
If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these apps are running,
the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as some
start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll build a
new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is AMD
Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB).

I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum. Here
is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of the
experts in the forum on computers

I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful and
I am delighted with it.
-----------------------------------
Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come
out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista
today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have
forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same
arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over
again.

The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small
business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large
commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their mega
profits.

Take no notice and enjoy it.
--------------------------------------------------

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)




Yeah, obviously. Wayne apparently hasn't bought a new computer since he
retired. BTW, that laptop will run VISTA just fine. Get one of the fat
third party help books, though. The documentation MS includes is
practically non-existent.

HK October 29th 07 10:24 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.



"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981


If you haven't already, don't waste $$$ on MS Office 2007. Also, when
you add programs, VISTA asks you every time if you really want to do
this. You can shut this off, but you ought to leave it on for a few
weeks so you have an idea of some of the intracacies of the OS.

HK October 29th 07 10:37 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:04:39 -0400, HK wrote:

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

You really shouldn't need a state-of-the-art, multi-core, multi
processor, 2 Gig PC just to support the operating system, although I
have to admit that IBM has frequently moved in that direction. Today's
VISTA compatible PCs have more hardware resources available to them
than a corporate mainframe computer 15 years ago. To do what? Browse
the web, type EMAILs, run spreadsheets, play music....

Ridiculous.



"640k of memory should be enough for anybody"
Bill Gates, circa 1981



Old Wayne sounds like those losing control IT managers of the mid 1980s
who were terrified by PCs because they meant that users could kind of do
things their way instead of his way.

John H. October 29th 07 10:38 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:17 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.



Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


What's ragging, Don?

John H. October 29th 07 10:39 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:09:30 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount
of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?

If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.



JimH,
I would recommend you use email for those topics you don't want
discussed in rec.boats. If you don't know Harry's email address let me
know and I will send it to your email.


I should always read your post before I respond. But then I'd be doing
things out of order and get all confused.


Did you two exchange love notes while you were away.
Mr. Burns may not like that.


How's your mom doing, Don?

John H. October 29th 07 10:44 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:01:00 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.



Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


I have come to expect that from Herring. Sad.


Yeah, he's an asshole.

Vic Smith October 29th 07 10:52 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:18:43 -0000,
wrote:


Of course dual boot is still an option but you have to do Vista first.


All kinds of options if you want to play with it. I think there are
virtual managers that can handle 3 or 4 OS's.
My brother does something like that.
But my son has multiple boxes, and software emulators.
If something doesn't want to be emulated, he runs it on the
appropriate box. He has about 6 PC's.
On his 64 bit box he loaded XP 32-bit, XP 64-bit, then Vista 64 bit,
in that order. Different partitions.
When he boots he sees the Vista boot manager, which asks if wants to
load Vista or earlier OS's (XP's)
He also has a 32-bit box with XP and Vista. XP has to be installed
first.
Anyway, he needs Vista to run Halo II. You can't run it without
Vista, as they ported it to Vista only.

--Vic

BAR October 29th 07 10:58 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:18:19 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 29, 1:01 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0400, HK wrote:
many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista,
acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start
deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1's arrival in the first quarter
of next year.
And that pretty much says it all. The largest customers, with the
most technical expertise and testing resources, do not yet consider it
ready for prime time.
Wait a minute - didn't I already say that?
Nothing new about that. Many of the "largest" customers held off on XP
until SP1 was released.
I'm running VISTA SP1 (beta). I guess it is ok to say that.
As I said, you love to tinker with your computer. Vista is a great OS
for someone who enjoys playing with Beta Software.

I bought a new laptop, BIG MISTAKE cuz it has Vista. Vista is a
disaster, slow, cranky, filled with crap I dont need, pure garbage. I
wish I'd bought a mac.

Frogwatch


Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.


Smash it first and fix it second.


BAR October 29th 07 11:02 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises, Windows
Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that
it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating system, almost
double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its
launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,

JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It just
goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.


Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista for my
son.


Microsoft counts you as a purchaser of Vista.


BAR October 29th 07 11:10 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow. It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do you
continue to tell us all your decisions?


If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment on
John.


Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.

Eisboch October 29th 07 11:12 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..


Jim forgets that this iS a newsGROUP.



All I know is that this newsgroup is starting to suck big time.

Eisboch



BAR October 29th 07 11:18 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
HK wrote:
WaIIy wrote:


BTW, did your Vista come with a new computer or did you buy it outright
and if so, for what reason.



1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Because I wanted to buy it.

Every two years or so I assemble a new desktop computer from what I
believe to be the best or fastest or both components generally
available. The vendor from whom I bought the ASUS motherboard had some
good prices on VISTA OEM, so I asked him to tuck in a copy. So, not only
did I buy a copy of VISTA, I bought it from an OEM supplier sans OS
technical support.

The few issues I have had with VISTA have been minor and easy to
resolve. All of my software but one program works just fine on VISTA,
and when I connected up everything, it found all my hardware and
installed all the necessary drives, but for one, and that issue was
easily resolved.

I run this desktop on the bleeding edge. It is full of beta and even
some alpha software, and it has been rock steady.

It is kind of humorous that my actual experience with VISTA has been
relatively trouble-free and a good learning experience while so many of
you are the wimps I suspected you were.

But, then, I'm just an English major.


Pushing the envelope of a word processor is hardly exercising a
computer's capabilities.

HK October 29th 07 11:27 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db
VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.

Use that same processor and memory setup and XP will still run faster.
Running a warp speed processor to get the same performance as an XP
machine running a supersonic speed CPU is just masking problems.


Sorry; can't run the "same" memory setup on XP. That should give you a
hint, eh? I've been waiting patiently here for someone to bring up
something, anything, and you've come the closest, even though you still
didn't get it. :}




Depending the processor, you can run up to 64 gb of memory. Does Vista
require even more?


XP doesn't recognize 64 gigs of memory.

BAR October 29th 07 11:27 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
wrote:
On Oct 29, 5:59 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:38:49 -0400, HK wrote:

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost
instantaneously. If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these
apps are running, the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of
the apps crash.
Try that with XP.
Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as
some start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll
build a new 64-bit box.

What apps you use should always drive the OS decision.
And *most* new software will be developed with Vista in mind.
XP will be good for many more years for most people,
but if I was buying a PC/Laptop with 64 bit processor, I'd chose
Vista as the "free" OS to bundle in.
At some point XP will have too many drawbacks, and you'll be more or
less compelled to go to Vista anyway.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Of course dual boot is still an option but you have to do Vista first.


VMWare

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 11:30 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:04:28 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:18:00 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by
enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by
enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp.
saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same
amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought
by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with
Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people
make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why
do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?
If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from
there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment
on
John.

Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.

That's right. That email address works just fine. I don't check it
often, but it does work.
That will save a lot of confusion and acrimony. Jimh can just tell you
his
decisions about everything without getting comments from any others in
the
group.

Thanks.

Like your annual postings of your Mickey Mouse cruises? Then we have the
long discussions of your motorcycle, camera, boat purchase, etc. We also
need to include your posts here about your *contributions*, like the
laptop
you said you purchased as a high school graduation gift for your nephews
friends daughter?

What is that saying about people in glass houses? Eh?

The difference, Jimh, is that I don't go ballistic if someone offers
advice
or comments on my posts.


Neither do I John.

Pot-kettle-black?


The laptop was for my niece's graduation. That was stated simply. The
truck
went to the nephew.

Got it?


Yeah sure. Whatever floats your boat.



JimH,
I suggest you read your post for the past day. You may find you are
incorrect about not going off the deep end.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 11:32 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
JimH wrote:


Don has already told you several times that he does not appreciate you
bringing up his Mother here. Why are you having a hard time with that
request John H?


JimH,
Has your son found out what his first assignment will be? Will the
computer be helpful with work or more for personal use?

Don White October 29th 07 11:34 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:17 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

Ssshhh, don't tell Jimh. He's buying one for his son, the Marine. But
then,
a Marine can probably fix the damn thing, or smash it.



Ragging on someone elses family members Johnny?
Why don't you take a Mickey Mouse 'around the world' cruise. It might do
you good.


What's ragging, Don?


You should have paid more attention to your high school students.



John H. October 29th 07 11:59 PM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:04:28 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:18:00 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:17:10 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:20 -0400, " JimH" ask
wrote:

" JimH" ask
wrote in message
...
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message
. ..
HK wrote:
Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped
Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing.
Eric Lai, Computerworld
Friday, October 26, 2007 09:00 AM PDT

Despite underwhelming consumers and being snubbed by enterprises,
Windows Vista's numbers keep growing, with Microsoft Corp. saying
Thursday that it has now shipped *88 million copies* of the
operating
system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same
amount of
time at its launch.
The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought
by
consumers and small businesses,
JimH purchased Vista thinking it was great and the first thing he
wanted
to do is figure out a way to tweak it so it wouldn't run so slow.
It
just goes to show you PT Barnum was correct.
Hey dummy, I did not purchase Vista. I purchased a laptop with
Vista
for
my son.

BTW: Why are you so concerned about what decisions other people
make?
What business is it of yours Jim Gallow, I mean Reggie? You are a
regular
busybody.

Jimh, if you don't want comments about the decisions you make, why do
you
continue to tell us all your decisions?
If you recall John, my question on Vista was to Harry. The dumb and
dumber
twins then got into the picture and the thread went downhill from
there.

What other "decisions" have I told you about and asked you to comment
on
John.


Gosh, maybe you didn't know that you could email Harry if you want
something to be just between the two of you.



This is what shows up in the header, but it may be a fake. Although, I
don't think Harry would do that because he frowns on it.


That's right. That email address works just fine. I don't check it
often, but it does work.


That will save a lot of confusion and acrimony. Jimh can just tell you his
decisions about everything without getting comments from any others in the
group.

Thanks.


Like your annual postings of your Mickey Mouse cruises? Then we have the
long discussions of your motorcycle, camera, boat purchase, etc. We also
need to include your posts here about your *contributions*, like the laptop
you said you purchased as a high school graduation gift for your nephews
friends daughter?

What is that saying about people in glass houses? Eh?


The difference, Jimh, is that I don't go ballistic if someone offers advice
or comments on my posts.

The laptop was for my niece's graduation. That was stated simply. The truck
went to the nephew.

Got it?

John H. October 30th 07 12:04 AM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:39 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use.
Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"






Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick or
two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper amount
of member does a better job handling several open apps simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost instantaneously.
If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these apps are running,
the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as some
start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll build a
new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is AMD
Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB).

I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum. Here
is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of the
experts in the forum on computers

I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful and
I am delighted with it.
-----------------------------------
Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come
out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista
today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have
forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same
arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over
again.

The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small
business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large
commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their mega
profits.

Take no notice and enjoy it.
--------------------------------------------------

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)


Wouldn't it be better to send Harry an email?

In any case, I'm sure your son is thrilled with his laptop. That was a most
generous thing to do. I think he'd have been happier with an Intel
processor though.

BTW, on what do you base a judgement of someone's computer knowledge in a
forum?

John H. October 30th 07 12:07 AM

For VISTA fans everywhere
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:12:39 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
D-unit wrote:

Dear MS (Bill)

Can I get a refund on my copy Vista?

I hate it. Its slow, locks up and does things I don't like.
An OS shouldn't do that.


I just want to run applications as fast as possible. Thats all.
I wouldn't install this bloatware on my work machines unless I
wanted to loose my job and was looking for a way out.


I bought Vista, my stoopid, I know.

db

VISTA isn't slow if you are running the right processor and an
appropriate amount of memory for the applications you use.

Bet you're not.


Apparently not. I have 1 gig of mem, I think you suggested at least 2.

Holy crikey.

My Gateway should have never come with it pre-loaded.
(again my fault)

I figured since it was on there, it should like...be fun/exciting to use.
Its like
trying to run a marathon with your shoe laces tied together.

db~gimme a C:\ "a keyboard.....how quaint"






Memory is cheap. Find out what you have in there and add another stick or
two so you have 2 gigs. Were you aware that VISTA with the proper amount
of member does a better job handling several open apps simultaneously?

I can run Adobe Bridge CS3 and Photoshop CS3, working on photos, and at
the same time run my web browser actively, along with my email program,
and my word processor, and switch between the apps almost instantaneously.
If I also try to burn a DVD at the same time all these apps are running,
the slowdown is noticeable but management, and none of the apps crash.

Try that with XP.

Plus, even though VISTA 64 is way ahead of its time right now, there are
some great new apps coming that will take advantage of it. As soon as some
start appearing, my current desktop will become a server and I'll build a
new 64-bit box.


Cheers.



My son's laptop has 2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm memory and the processor is AMD
Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2.0GHz/1MB).

I posed the question of the concerns posted here in a computer forum. Here
is one of the responses I received from what I would judge to be one of the
experts in the forum on computers

I had a new desktop built in February loaded with Vista. It's wonderful and
I am delighted with it.
-----------------------------------
Every time MS brings out new software the prophets of doom and gloom come
out of their comfort zone and start whining. The people who condemn Vista
today are the same people who tomorrow will enjoy Vista and will have
forgotten their reluctance to change. It's no different to the same
arguments made when changing from Windows 95 to 98 and then to XP all over
again.

The main protagonists seem to be conservative and frugal home and small
business users who cannot easily afford the hardware required and large
commercial organizations where such a major change would eat into their mega
profits.

Take no notice and enjoy it.
--------------------------------------------------

Do you see the same trend Harry? Precious! ;-)


Oh, and yes, that *was* so very precious! ;-) :-)


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