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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:31:18 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard, narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?

He didn't tell you?

Short Wave is thinking of starting a pump-out boat service.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:31:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:00:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey...I'm showing 16 knot winds out of the North and North
West...wouldn't those help you get on your way South and out of the Bay?
What are you waiting for?

We like the bay, and have been commissioned by certain unnamed parties
to capture some LTP fotos, preferably in a compromising situation.
Tomorrow looks good for that with northerly winds in the 20s again.
Would you like to meet in mid-bay somewhere for lunch? We can pass
you a sandwich, pickle, beer, essence of diesel and a barf bag all at
one reasonable rate.

And if I was local, I would do it just to prove a point. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:31:18 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard, narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?
He didn't tell you?

Short Wave is thinking of starting a pump-out boat service.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!


Then I can understand why he wants a solidly built, three piece boat
instead of that two piece thin candy shell you now have.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:31:18 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for
some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard,
narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?
He didn't tell you?

Short Wave is thinking of starting a pump-out boat service.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!


Then I can understand why he wants a solidly built, three piece boat
instead of that two piece thin candy shell you now have.

And it rinses deck so easily by throwing the engine in reverse and gunning
the throttle.

Eisboch :-)

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:31:18 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for
some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard,
narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?
He didn't tell you?

Short Wave is thinking of starting a pump-out boat service.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Then I can understand why he wants a solidly built, three piece boat
instead of that two piece thin candy shell you now have.

And it rinses deck so easily by throwing the engine in reverse and gunning
the throttle.

Eisboch :-)


I tried that...doesn't do much. You must be thinking of a low-sided,
low-transom, flat bottomed ranger.

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On Oct 11, 6:23 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:06:40 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:57:14 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:22:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:48:22 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!!

Er...

Um...

Never mind. :)
I am positive if there was a problem with ETEC, we would have heard
about it in rec.boats.

So what do you guess is the market share on ETEC?
Don't know. Probably not high compared to Yamaha's. I do know that
Bombardier made an attempt to link engines and boats with their
Fishhawk line, but that lasted for only two years.

Yamaha's success has largely been due to their linkage with
manufacturers on exclusive deals. Customers aren't given any other
choice.

Hard to fight that.

I can say with relative authority, that on bass boats which you can
make a choice, ETECs tend to sell at about the same pace and once you
sell somebody an ETEC, it's instant conversion.

Other than that, can't say.
The tie in with the mfg'er seems to limit ETEC as an option. I have the
feeling that is why Harry switched to Yamaha
Tri State sells Parkers and Grady's only with Yamahas.
I don't know about Gradys, but you can buy a Parker sans engine.
No you can't.

And I have the emails to prove it.

Whatever. I was told by Robin Parker at the time I bought my 25-footer
that the other 25-foot models, but not mine, were available sans engine.
It's possible the factory has changed its mind about that, and if you
are not getting that information from the factory, it is possible your
dealer simply doesn't know.

Would you like to see the emails from Robin Parker? We had a
discussion about the possible purchase of new Parker and Parker would
not, under any circumstances, sell a bare boat.

I can also send you the emails I received from a bunch of other
manufacturers who are tied into Yamaha.

In fact, I have seen a photo of a new Parker with a non-Yamaha motor on
it. I might have even posted that photo here at one time.

May have been a repower.

As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard, narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?- Hide quoted text -

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Hopefully SW won't mind me noting that he was looking at a couple of
boats to donate to a charitable organization in the mid east coast.
However he wanted a slight customization that Parker would not even
consider. Sorry Tom, you are a generous guy, there, I said it;)

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HK wrote:


I have not kept pace with two stroke outboard technology since 2003, so
I have no idea what is going on with it now. The few new two strokes I
have seen running have not excited me to the point that I'd consider one
now. I like the idea of "running" on gasoline alone (no oil in the gas,
no oil tank), I like the car-like starting, I like the quietness, I like
the fact that I can run at low speeds a long time without having to blow
the cobwebs out, I like the lack of oil in the water.

These are all qualities of 4 stroke that would make me want to seriously
consider a 4 stroke if I was in the market for an OB. I could never
understand why you took such a firm stand against the 4 stroke in the
first place (see example below). Since 4 stroke technology hasn't really
changed, but ETEC is an improvement over Optimax and Ficht, I would have
expected you to be a big supporter of ETEC. Below was your feelings
about 4 stroke a few years ago, while you didn't mention it this post
one of your other big complaints about 4 stroke was the weight issue,
and the problems a few hundred pounds can have on the back of the
average size fishing boat. Since Yamaha 225 still weighs about 60 lbs
more I would think that would be a major consideration for you.





For all your trying, all you have demonstrated is that, when it comes to
approximately similar horsepower engines of 115 hp or higher, the two cycles
seem to put out more power, the two cycles out accelerate the four cycles,
the two cycles produce more WOT speed than the four cycles, the gasoline
burn (at least with the Optis) is about the same, the four cycles are
quieter at idle and in some cases at other speeds, and, of course, your
silly claim that somehow the four cycles are "more refined" than the two
cycle DFI's.


In other words, you have presented very little on which to base a choice.
Further, your personal experience with DFI engines seems to be somewhere
between zero and a little more than one.


As I stated, you've managed to convince yourself. You should be proud.

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:49:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

We like the bay, and have been commissioned by certain unnamed parties
to capture some LTP fotos, preferably in a compromising situation.
Tomorrow looks good for that with northerly winds in the 20s again.
Would you like to meet in mid-bay somewhere for lunch? We can pass
you a sandwich, pickle, beer, essence of diesel and a barf bag all at
one reasonable rate.

And if I was local, I would do it just to prove a point. :)

But you're a real guy with a real boats...

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:55:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

And it rinses deck so easily by throwing the engine in reverse and gunning
the throttle.

Is that when it turns over and dumps the contents?

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:25:38 -0700, camacdonaldiii
wrote:

Krause, what makes you such an ass? Is it the way you were raised, or
do
you have some organic brain deficit?

I think it must be a mental / emotional deficit. The illusions of
grandeur, the chronic lying, the sociopathic responses on this
newsgroup over the years, etc.

I have reluctantly come to the same conclusions. Too bad for a person
obviously interested in boats and with some writing talent.

I've read that it is hardest on the family of the mentally ill. The patient
will usually deny the illness. But then, I don't think Krause has much
family left who will claim or care for him.