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Demise of a TrawlerRV?

On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.

Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.

Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.

Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

On Oct 10, 9:57?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.

Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.

Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 9:57?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg
Occupants rescued.
Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.
Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny
the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et cetera.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

"HK" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.

The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.

The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch

No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:

The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch

No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.

When we lived in Italy, we were rationed 400 liters of gas for our cars a
month.
If we wanted or needed more, we paid through the nose.

It worked.

Eisboch

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.

The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch

Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

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I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.

While Harry has the financial resources to own whatever he likes,
including a small fleet of boats, many of the people who are so
against medium size and larger boats adopt that position as a result
of poorly informed conclusions. People who own large boats are
stereotypically dismissed as folks with way too much money. (Large
boat = anything larger than the one the person complaining about large
boats happens to own). In reality, most of us with moderate or larger
size boats are juyst normal folks who have made different choices and
spent money with different priorities.

It amazes me how a guy driving down the freeway in a 40-foot, $350,000
motor home is perceived as a "retired working stiff, living the
America retirement dream while touring the country." Put the same guy
in a 40-foot, $150,000 boat and all of a sudden he's part of he
"wealthy elite, out of touch with the common man and wasting
resources."

Demise of a TrawlerRV?

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)

Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.

The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch

Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?

Chuck's boat is powered by a single relatively small diesel. Ergo, no. I
have no idea how many rats are running around in Wayne's bilge.