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HK October 10th 07 04:02 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg


Occupants rescued.

Chuck Gould October 10th 07 05:15 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.


Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.


HK October 10th 07 05:57 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.


Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.



Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.

Chuck Gould October 10th 07 07:15 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Oct 10, 9:57?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg


Occupants rescued.


Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.


Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)


HK October 10th 07 07:23 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 9:57?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg
Occupants rescued.
Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.

Seen one oversized barge, you've seen them all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny
the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et cetera.

Eisboch October 10th 07 07:49 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.



The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch



HK October 10th 07 07:50 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)


Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.



The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch




No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.

Eisboch October 10th 07 07:59 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch




No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.


When we lived in Italy, we were rationed 400 liters of gas for our cars a
month.
If we wanted or needed more, we paid through the nose.

It worked.

Eisboch



Chuck Gould October 10th 07 08:18 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...


Chuck Gould wrote:


Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)


Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.


Eisboch


Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.

While Harry has the financial resources to own whatever he likes,
including a small fleet of boats, many of the people who are so
against medium size and larger boats adopt that position as a result
of poorly informed conclusions. People who own large boats are
stereotypically dismissed as folks with way too much money. (Large
boat = anything larger than the one the person complaining about large
boats happens to own). In reality, most of us with moderate or larger
size boats are juyst normal folks who have made different choices and
spent money with different priorities.

It amazes me how a guy driving down the freeway in a 40-foot, $350,000
motor home is perceived as a "retired working stiff, living the
America retirement dream while touring the country." Put the same guy
in a 40-foot, $150,000 boat and all of a sudden he's part of he
"wealthy elite, out of touch with the common man and wasting
resources."


HK October 10th 07 08:40 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)


Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch


Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?



Chuck's boat is powered by a single relatively small diesel. Ergo, no. I
have no idea how many rats are running around in Wayne's bilge.

HK October 10th 07 08:44 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch

Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.



Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.

John H. October 10th 07 09:05 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Chuck Gould wrote:

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes, et
cetera.



The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch


Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?

Tim October 10th 07 10:04 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Glad they were rescued, but sorry they lost a beautiful craft...


HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg


Occupants rescued.



John H. October 10th 07 10:08 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:59:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.

Eisboch




No. Some people have to drive long distances to get to their jobs or in
connection with their jobs.


When we lived in Italy, we were rationed 400 liters of gas for our cars a
month.
If we wanted or needed more, we paid through the nose.

It worked.

Eisboch


The big advantage of having a wife who worked for the government and had a
car registered in her name. We got 800 liters! Didn't use it because most
of our travel was by motorcycle.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 10:12 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:

- Show quoted text -


Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny
the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et cetera.


Harry,
Wouldn't a 36' Lobster Boat be considered on of those over sized
pleasure vehicle?



Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 10:14 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or
energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.



Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.


Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?

HK October 10th 07 10:16 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

- Show quoted text -

Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)



Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to
deny the impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial
luxury tax or energy surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury
yachts, private planes, et cetera.


Harry,
Wouldn't a 36' Lobster Boat be considered on of those over sized
pleasure vehicle?




http://tinyurl.com/3dg

HK October 10th 07 10:17 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or
energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered
with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.



Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.


Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg

Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 10:23 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you
proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues,
$3+ prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize
one's energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax
or energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private
planes, et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered
with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.


Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at
26 mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour
equals about 2 mpg.


Since you were talking about your lobster boat yesterday, what kind of
mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you really
like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly, no matter
what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone else for using
less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?


HK October 10th 07 10:33 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you really
like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly, no matter
what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone else for using
less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?






Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 10:45 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you
really like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly, no
matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone else
for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?






Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother you?


HK October 10th 07 10:49 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you
really like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly,
no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone
else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?






Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg

HK October 10th 07 11:01 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:17:05 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



From another newsgroup:

Not sure if there's a connection but shortly after clicking that link this
AM Kaspersky caught, stopped and deleted this:
"detected: malware not-virus:Hoax.Win32.Renos.kd"


(just couldn't resist!)


Of course!

Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 11:07 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position on
this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that you
really like to go fast so you can get to your destination quickly,
no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise someone
else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?





Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?


HK October 10th 07 11:09 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position
on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that
you really like to go fast so you can get to your destination
quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise
someone else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?





Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother
you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?



"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Reginald P. Smithers III October 10th 07 11:17 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position
on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that
you really like to go fast so you can get to your destination
quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise
someone else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?





Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother
you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?



"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting upset.
With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.


JR North October 10th 07 11:32 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position
on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that
you really like to go fast so you can get to your destination
quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then
chastise someone else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?






Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has
been calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question
bother you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?



"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting upset.
With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AEHSRLS&key=VLV
JR
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John H. October 10th 07 11:52 PM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:17:05 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



From another newsgroup:

Not sure if there's a connection but shortly after clicking that link this
AM Kaspersky caught, stopped and deleted this:
"detected: malware not-virus:Hoax.Win32.Renos.kd"


(just couldn't resist!)

[email protected] October 11th 07 12:02 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Oct 10, 6:09 pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position
on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that
you really like to go fast so you can get to your destination
quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise
someone else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.


So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?


Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.


http://tinyurl.com/3dg


I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother
you?


http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?


"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nice song


Reginald P. Smithers III October 11th 07 12:18 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
JR North wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your
position on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow
cruising, that you really like to go fast so you can get to
your destination quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption
is, and then chastise someone else for using less fuel by
cruising slowly.

So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?






Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.

http://tinyurl.com/3dg



I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has
been calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question
bother you?



http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?



"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting upset.
With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AEHSRLS&key=VLV
JR


NOT

Reginald P. Smithers III October 11th 07 12:19 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
wrote:
On Oct 10, 6:09 pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry,
That was not polite, I am just trying to understand your position
on this issue. You can't say you don't like slow cruising, that
you really like to go fast so you can get to your destination
quickly, no matter what the fuel consumption is, and then chastise
someone else for using less fuel by cruising slowly.
So what kind of mpg and gph does your lobster boat get?
Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions.
I allowed you more than a week to see if you could behave like a
gentlemen. Well, you couldn't. Drop dead. And please, no
rationalizations about how "innocent" your queries are.
http://tinyurl.com/3dg
I have been behaving like a gentlemen. You are the one who has been
calling me names, which I have ignored. Why did my question bother
you?
http://tinyurl.com/3dg
Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?

"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nice song


Nice beat, I think you can dance to it, but the lyrics seem weak.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 11th 07 12:20 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


nice song


Nice beat, I think you can dance to it, but the lyrics seem weak.


http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/images/fword.mp3


Short Wave Sportfishing October 11th 07 12:53 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:18:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting upset.
With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AEHSRLS&key=VLV
JR


NOT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWcOvwcNGaA

HK October 11th 07 01:02 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:18:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting upset.
With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AEHSRLS&key=VLV
JR

NOT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWcOvwcNGaA



You know, there is a photo of ReggieReTURDo extant, but it was taken a
few years ago:

http://tinyurl.com/3d9ady

Reginald P. Smithers III October 11th 07 01:23 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:18:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Harry,
I recommend you put my in your bozo bin, you seem to be getting
upset. With your weight problems it is not good for your heart.

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AEHSRLS&key=VLV
JR
NOT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWcOvwcNGaA



You know, there is a photo of ReggieReTURDo extant, but it was taken a
few years ago:

http://tinyurl.com/3d9ady


Harry,
That is cute, thanks for sharing. I recommend you continue your name
calling, it seems to help you.




William Bruce October 11th 07 01:30 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
Harry,
Is using profanity behaving like a gentleman?



"Once more, Reggie, don't offer me advice and don't ask me questions."

http://tinyurl.com/3dg


Krause, what makes you such an ass? Is it the way you were raised, or do
you have some organic brain deficit?



Wayne.B October 11th 07 01:31 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:15:21 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.


It was a motoryacht (HTMY).

We were running side by side with them while taking pictures of a
sinking LT Parker (actually it was just down by the stern), when we
started taking incoming enemy fire. I immediately activated the
electronic counter measures which were very effective. Unfortunately
the HTMY was not so equipped and suffered irreparable damage from
incoming flak.

The LTP sped off mumbling something about how we were burning all of
*his* oil.

Eisboch October 11th 07 01:57 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 10, 1:05?pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:49:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Your opinion has certainly "evolved" since the days when you proudly
proclaimed your ownership of a Hatteras in rec.boats. :-)
Indeed, Chuck. After a four year war "for oil" that continues, $3+
prices
at the pump, and the hard right working harder than ever to deny the
impact of global warming, it just seems "smarter" to downsize one's
energy
consuming toys. I wouldn't mind seeing a substantial luxury tax or
energy
surtax on oversized pleasure vehicles, luxury yachts, private planes,
et
cetera.
The surtax should be on the cost of the fuel in excess of X amount of
gallons used per month, not the item the fuel is used in.
Eisboch
Harry, if you're still reading - many of those trawlers are powered with
small diesels, burning almost nothing. Do you consider Wayne's or
Chuck's
boats 'luxury yachts'?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I realize over 4 nmpg. I'd be surprised to learn that Harry's boat is
more economical than that.



Some small tests I've run on Son of Yo Ho indicate about 3.5 mpg at 26
mph. At your boat's speeds, my mileage goes down. 10 miles an hour equals
about 2 mpg.


So what?

Eisboch



Eisboch October 11th 07 02:14 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:15:21 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.


It was a motoryacht (HTMY).

We were running side by side with them while taking pictures of a
sinking LT Parker (actually it was just down by the stern), when we
started taking incoming enemy fire. I immediately activated the
electronic counter measures which were very effective. Unfortunately
the HTMY was not so equipped and suffered irreparable damage from
incoming flak.

The LTP sped off mumbling something about how we were burning all of
*his* oil.


Was the LTP waving a distress flag from an upward held paddle?

Eisboch



Calif Bill October 11th 07 02:14 AM

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 10, 8:02?am, HK wrote:
Off Solomons Island. Hope it's not the boat of anyone we know:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat1-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../rvboat2-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ng/rvboat4.jpg

Occupants rescued.


Can't see enough of the superstructure to be definitive, but it looks
more like a motoryacht than a trawler to me. Obviously doesn't have a
proper boat deck and running from the lower helm (if even equipped) is
a low priority.


Was that a Zimmerman style lobsta boat being removed from the internet?




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