Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:22:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:48:22 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!!

Er...

Um...

Never mind. :)
I am positive if there was a problem with ETEC, we would have heard
about it in rec.boats.

So what do you guess is the market share on ETEC?

Don't know. Probably not high compared to Yamaha's. I do know that
Bombardier made an attempt to link engines and boats with their
Fishhawk line, but that lasted for only two years.

Yamaha's success has largely been due to their linkage with
manufacturers on exclusive deals. Customers aren't given any other
choice.

Hard to fight that.

I can say with relative authority, that on bass boats which you can
make a choice, ETECs tend to sell at about the same pace and once you
sell somebody an ETEC, it's instant conversion.

Other than that, can't say.

The tie in with the mfg'er seems to limit ETEC as an option. I have the
feeling that is why Harry switched to Yamaha

Tri State sells Parkers and Grady's only with Yamahas.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:57:14 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:22:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:48:22 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!!

Er...

Um...

Never mind. :)
I am positive if there was a problem with ETEC, we would have heard
about it in rec.boats.

So what do you guess is the market share on ETEC?
Don't know. Probably not high compared to Yamaha's. I do know that
Bombardier made an attempt to link engines and boats with their
Fishhawk line, but that lasted for only two years.

Yamaha's success has largely been due to their linkage with
manufacturers on exclusive deals. Customers aren't given any other
choice.

Hard to fight that.

I can say with relative authority, that on bass boats which you can
make a choice, ETECs tend to sell at about the same pace and once you
sell somebody an ETEC, it's instant conversion.

Other than that, can't say.
The tie in with the mfg'er seems to limit ETEC as an option. I have the
feeling that is why Harry switched to Yamaha

Tri State sells Parkers and Grady's only with Yamahas.


I don't know about Gradys, but you can buy a Parker sans engine.

Would Tri State sell you a Parker sans engine and then put a Honda on it? I
think they started selling Hondas a couple years ago. They told me they
sold Parkers with Yamahas, but I didn't ask about the no engine scenario.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:22:03 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:

Would Tri State sell you a Parker sans engine and then put a Honda on it? I
think they started selling Hondas a couple years ago. They told me they
sold Parkers with Yamahas, but I didn't ask about the no engine scenario.


They've been selling Hondas for as long as I have been in the DC area.

I don't know whether the dealership will order a Parker sans engines.
Never asked. I know that Robin Parker told me once some years ago that I
could buy a Parker without engine or rigging. It only came up once and I
never pursued it.

Does your new boat come with the square electronic dash instruments?
They're optional, and up to the boat manufacturer.

Yes, I'm getting the digital style.

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:06:40 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:57:14 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:22:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:48:22 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!!

Er...

Um...

Never mind. :)
I am positive if there was a problem with ETEC, we would have heard
about it in rec.boats.

So what do you guess is the market share on ETEC?
Don't know. Probably not high compared to Yamaha's. I do know that
Bombardier made an attempt to link engines and boats with their
Fishhawk line, but that lasted for only two years.

Yamaha's success has largely been due to their linkage with
manufacturers on exclusive deals. Customers aren't given any other
choice.

Hard to fight that.

I can say with relative authority, that on bass boats which you can
make a choice, ETECs tend to sell at about the same pace and once you
sell somebody an ETEC, it's instant conversion.

Other than that, can't say.
The tie in with the mfg'er seems to limit ETEC as an option. I have the
feeling that is why Harry switched to Yamaha
Tri State sells Parkers and Grady's only with Yamahas.

I don't know about Gradys, but you can buy a Parker sans engine.

No you can't.

And I have the emails to prove it.


Whatever. I was told by Robin Parker at the time I bought my 25-footer
that the other 25-foot models, but not mine, were available sans engine.
It's possible the factory has changed its mind about that, and if you
are not getting that information from the factory, it is possible your
dealer simply doesn't know.

Would you like to see the emails from Robin Parker? We had a
discussion about the possible purchase of new Parker and Parker would
not, under any circumstances, sell a bare boat.

I can also send you the emails I received from a bunch of other
manufacturers who are tied into Yamaha.

In fact, I have seen a photo of a new Parker with a non-Yamaha motor on
it. I might have even posted that photo here at one time.

May have been a repower.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:25:38 -0700, camacdonaldiii
wrote:

Krause, what makes you such an ass? Is it the way you were raised, or do
you have some organic brain deficit?

I think it must be a mental / emotional deficit. The illusions of
grandeur, the chronic lying, the sociopathic responses on this
newsgroup over the years, etc.

I have reluctantly come to the same conclusions. Too bad for a person
obviously interested in boats and with some writing talent.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:43:18 -0400, HK wrote:

I like the idea of "running" on gasoline alone (no oil in the gas,
no oil tank), I like the car-like starting, I like the quietness, I like
the fact that I can run at low speeds a long time without having to blow
the cobwebs out, I like the lack of oil in the water.

Those are all positives, no question. It is also getting difficult to
buy 2 strokes in some size ranges. I went through that this year
trying to buy a new dinghy engine. We wanted a 20 horse with electric
start and there did not seem to be any option other than a 4 stroke.
The Honda BF20 that I ended up with is a nice engine but it is 50
pounds heavier than the 15 horse Merc it replaced, has a lot less low
end torque, and cost about twice as much. It took half the summer
testing different props, adjusting transom rake and adding a Doel-Fin
before it was performing up to expectations.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:06:40 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:57:14 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:22:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:48:22 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

WE WILL RULE THE WORLD!!!

Er...

Um...

Never mind. :)
I am positive if there was a problem with ETEC, we would have heard
about it in rec.boats.

So what do you guess is the market share on ETEC?
Don't know. Probably not high compared to Yamaha's. I do know that
Bombardier made an attempt to link engines and boats with their
Fishhawk line, but that lasted for only two years.

Yamaha's success has largely been due to their linkage with
manufacturers on exclusive deals. Customers aren't given any other
choice.

Hard to fight that.

I can say with relative authority, that on bass boats which you can
make a choice, ETECs tend to sell at about the same pace and once you
sell somebody an ETEC, it's instant conversion.

Other than that, can't say.
The tie in with the mfg'er seems to limit ETEC as an option. I have the
feeling that is why Harry switched to Yamaha
Tri State sells Parkers and Grady's only with Yamahas.
I don't know about Gradys, but you can buy a Parker sans engine.
No you can't.

And I have the emails to prove it.

Whatever. I was told by Robin Parker at the time I bought my 25-footer
that the other 25-foot models, but not mine, were available sans engine.
It's possible the factory has changed its mind about that, and if you
are not getting that information from the factory, it is possible your
dealer simply doesn't know.

Would you like to see the emails from Robin Parker? We had a
discussion about the possible purchase of new Parker and Parker would
not, under any circumstances, sell a bare boat.

I can also send you the emails I received from a bunch of other
manufacturers who are tied into Yamaha.

In fact, I have seen a photo of a new Parker with a non-Yamaha motor on
it. I might have even posted that photo here at one time.

May have been a repower.


As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard, narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


As I stated, in 2003 it was possible. It may still be possible for some
models. I have no idea why you would want to put a substandard, narrowly
sold, low trade-in value eTec on a Parker.

And besides, why are you talking to Parker? You stepping up in boat
quality, too?


He didn't tell you?

Short Wave is thinking of starting a pump-out boat service.

Eisboch

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:00:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey...I'm showing 16 knot winds out of the North and North
West...wouldn't those help you get on your way South and out of the Bay?
What are you waiting for?

We like the bay, and have been commissioned by certain unnamed parties
to capture some LTP fotos, preferably in a compromising situation.
Tomorrow looks good for that with northerly winds in the 20s again.
Would you like to meet in mid-bay somewhere for lunch? We can pass
you a sandwich, pickle, beer, essence of diesel and a barf bag all at
one reasonable rate.

Demise of a TrawlerRV?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:00:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey...I'm showing 16 knot winds out of the North and North
West...wouldn't those help you get on your way South and out of the Bay?
What are you waiting for?

We like the bay, and have been commissioned by certain unnamed parties
to capture some LTP fotos, preferably in a compromising situation.
Tomorrow looks good for that with northerly winds in the 20s again.
Would you like to meet in mid-bay somewhere for lunch? We can pass
you a sandwich, pickle, beer, essence of diesel and a barf bag all at
one reasonable rate.


Sorry, but I've already met my quota this year of meeting up with snarky
a**holes. Maybe next year, if you're around early.