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Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 04:21 AM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK
wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast
can you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the
sides, or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water
slops over into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are
your scuppers above water with that heavy engine? What are you
naming it? Where are you going to keep it, assuming you are going
to keep it on a trailer? When will you be leaving the area for
North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read
in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp,
which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet.
It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but
probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be
able to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions,
since your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has
less length. But you are welcome to think what you will.

Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and
in rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and
onto the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the
boat get
too full of water.

:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.


JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)



There are quite a few inlets in the bay, but very, very few are
"interesting" in terms of presenting rough water, strong currents,
offshore winds, signficant tides, et cetera.

Now you know. Got any such "interesting" inlets on that unnamed lake
where you boat?


No.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 04:23 AM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:


How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?

The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.


Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are wlcome to think what you will.


It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.



Does it really, Reggie? Is that what you think, based upon your many
years of experience with dozens of different boats? To me, it just means
two different sizes and styles of boats, with substantially different
methods of construction.

But you are welcome to think what you will.


Oh, I was basing my comments on your critique of JohnH's boat no being
able to run as comfortable as yours, and that you would be able to run
your boat faster. I didn't know his was just as good as yours.

Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:22 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:57:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the
livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues,
one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me
caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind
doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.
Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to
work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?


Great sport fishing for herring. American Shad are the largest of the
herring and one of the great sport fish.
Unfortunately, the herring fishery around here has pretty much been
destroyed by factory-style boats that overcatch the species
for...fertilizer, I believe.

They fish the herring for the roe and the rest goes to cat food and
fertilizer.




Yes, I read an article not long ago about the demise of that species in
this area, and I recall those uses being mentioned. Well, at least the
cat food and fertilizer part.


Down in SC, you can't get rid of the damned things in the lakes.


Herring not shad. At least no American Shad.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:22 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:55:20 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the
livewell, and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a
few
blues, one decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who
accompanied me caught a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if
the
forecasted wind doesn't materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also
understand keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish
intended to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually
have
to put them on ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing
they
will die along the way)? I have no problem keeping my catch fresh
on
ice in the cooler throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a
day of fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.


When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?


Oddly enough, I have done it.


So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:24 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:20:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)
Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}

Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...


I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}


1 - I don't eat garlic. Ever.

2 - Cigars don't light underwater, but I have my stable of captive
alien scientists from Koosebain working on it.

3 - See #1.


An Alien Vampire. SW gets scarier by the day.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:25 AM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 23, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:


On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues
by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.


Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.


"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."


~~ sheesh ~~
ROTF!


I lost a quarter of an inch of my left thumb to a bluefish. I kid you
not.
Had I not duct-taped it back on, I would have lost my thumb tip for
sure.


Having never seen one I didn't know. Sorry.


They're toothy and aggressive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, like the little killer bunny in Monte Python...


I thought that was in President Carter.



Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 11:10 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:24:45 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:20:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)
Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}

Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...

I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}


1 - I don't eat garlic. Ever.

2 - Cigars don't light underwater, but I have my stable of captive
alien scientists from Koosebain working on it.

3 - See #1.


An Alien Vampire. SW gets scarier by the day.


Well, hell. If I told you the truth about my origins, you'd find the
nearest deep hole, get to the bottom and pull the hole in after you.

Alien vampires ain't nuttin' compared to the...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 11:12 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:22:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Herring not shad. At least no American Shad.


I thought we were discussing blue back herring?

JoeSpareBedroom September 24th 07 11:56 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long
and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.

When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?


Oddly enough, I have done it.


So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.


If someone tells you they'll stop by in "about 1/2 hour" and they arrive in
20 minutes, do you have convulsions?



HK September 24th 07 04:49 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:48:08 -0400, HK wrote:


Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.
I just call the folks at Tylers. They've always been spot on about the
water conditions off Chesapeake Beach.


Tylers has no clear view of the Bay. Do they dispatch someone over to
the little memorial park to peer over the bushes?


They can walk up to the flag and get a great view. Or, they can just look
at the flag. I've never known them to be wrong. Of course they may get
their info from folks who've actually been on the water that day and just
pass it on. Try 'em, you just might like 'em.



I shop sometimes at Tylers. I used to buy minnows there before I got my
minnow traps set up. Also, if you need a fishing rod repaired, Tylers
has someone who picks them up and returns them fixed in under two weeks.
Or at least they did that for me.

The weather station Mike at BP wants to put up will show a bit more than
a flag waving.


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