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Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

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Parker or lobster boat?

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William Bruce wrote:
Parker or lobster boat?



crickets

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on Berkley
bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell, and went
in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one decent sized
striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught a keeper
striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also understand
keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish intended
to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually have to put them on
ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing they will die along the
way)? I have no problem keeping my catch fresh on ice in the cooler
throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day of
fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.



I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell. The spot I caught were intended as
live bait for livelining and were used that way. Where there are slot
limits for fish, some guys might "livewell" a smaller fish in hopes of
catching a larger one of the same species, and then dump the smaller
one, still alive, back in the drink.

Most livewells, at least the ones that are professionally installed,
suck up their water through a bronze through-hull fitting on the bottom
of the boat. A shut-off valve sits on top of the through-hull, inside
the boat. An electric livewell pump takes the water from there and pipes
it into the livewell. The livewell usually has a plumbed overflow pipe
so that water coming in pushes out the "dirty" water already in the
livewell. My livewell, which holds 30 gallons, is on deck and serves as
a platform for the two main swivel seats behind the center console. It
has a second pump to help drain it at the end of the day, though it will
also drain via gravity through an outlet on the transom.

There are several other ways livewells can be plumbed.

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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day of
fishing?
You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the water
combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a battery
powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a perch to
steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote in body flesh
integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.




There are kits out there that will turn a small igloo cooler into a
livewell. If you decide to take fishing seriously enough to keep your
minnows alive, check it out.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:51 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the water
combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a battery
powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a perch to
steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote in body flesh
integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.

Ah - well, there is a cure.

Ice and rock salt. You take a bag of ice (baggie, whatever) properly
sized for the bucket and add a little rock salt - say 1/4 - 1/3
handfull for a 5 gallon bucket.

Now you may ask why the rock salt. Well, three reasons. It changes
the pH of the water just a little which the little minnows like. The
minnows, odd as this may sound, like the water a little salty (not a
lot salty). The ice keeps the water cool which slows down their
metabolism keeping them alive longer. The salt also helps lower the
temperature of the water faster and keeps it cooler longer.

Now Grasshopper, go forth and fish in peace and harmony.

For our next lesson, we will discuss the proper rigging of a minnow
for maximum hook up. :)

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:00:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

Good for the crabs.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:04:00 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:51 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day
of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the
water
combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a
battery
powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a perch to
steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote in body
flesh
integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.

Ah - well, there is a cure.

Ice and rock salt. You take a bag of ice (baggie, whatever) properly
sized for the bucket and add a little rock salt - say 1/4 - 1/3
handfull for a 5 gallon bucket.

Now you may ask why the rock salt. Well, three reasons. It changes
the pH of the water just a little which the little minnows like. The
minnows, odd as this may sound, like the water a little salty (not a
lot salty). The ice keeps the water cool which slows down their
metabolism keeping them alive longer. The salt also helps lower the
temperature of the water faster and keeps it cooler longer.

Now Grasshopper, go forth and fish in peace and harmony.

For our next lesson, we will discuss the proper rigging of a minnow
for maximum hook up. :)

We normally keep a perforated floating pail in the water to keep our extra
minnows alive and add to the on deck pail as needed. We add ice to the
water of the ones on the boat but they eventually die if the fishing is
slow.

Try the rock salt.

Another issue, sometimes not always, is that minnows will descale and
their waste will contaminate the water. One way to avoid that is to
circulate and filter the water. I just looked for a bookmark I had
for a small circulator and filter kit, but it seems I lost it somehow.

I'll take the time tomorrow and find it again. Cheap too - only like
15/20 bucks, but it does a great job. Works like an aquarium filter.

As far a putting the minnow on the hook...........perch will normally go for
the head. The minnow is therefore hooked through the back down through the
belley and back up through the head.

I never do that. I usually hook through the nostrils right below the
eyes.

Then again, I seldom use live bait. I've seen more ways to rig
minnows than you can shake a stick at and every one is as valid as the
other.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day
of
fishing?
You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.
Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the
water combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a
battery powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a
perch to steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote
in body flesh integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.



There are kits out there that will turn a small igloo cooler into a
livewell. If you decide to take fishing seriously enough to keep your
minnows alive, check it out.

An extra cooler on my current boat for minnows is not an option. My next
boat will have a live well (or 2). I have narrowed my choices to these
Grady Whites (yes, my next boat will be a Grady):

265 Islander (dreaming)

226 Seafarer

205 Adventurer

232 Gulfstream



You ought to make a quick trip here next month. The local Grady dealer
has "Grady Days" right after the Annapolis Powerboat Show. You can ride
in and drive just about every Grady model.

Gradys are great boats.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:04:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:00:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

Good for the crabs.

The crabs aren't dying due to a lack of food.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:10:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:00:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

Good for the crabs.

Sometimes you cannot help it........most especially when the fish swallows
the hook. On Lake Erie these smaller (dead) ones become gull snack
food.........the circle of life.


I'm talking about folks who throw a dead 22" striper back because they just
caught a 24" striper. The limit is two fish. Some people just keep throwing
dead ones back when they catch a bigger one. Those folks deserve shooting.

"Good for the crabs" is no excuse.

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On Sep 22, 8:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

For those unfamiliar with Bluefish and fishing for them. Folks who eat
Bluefish like to keep them alive till they can can bleed and clean
them. If you are on a pod of Bluefish, you can catch them as fast as
you can catch, then you have to chase the pod. There is often little
time to tend to the cleaning so you keep them in the livewell till you
are ready to clean then and put them on ice.

Tom's well works great. He twsted a switch and it filled with fresh
water and recirculated it keeping one fish I caught alive and well for
hours, eventually decided to not kill him, so we were able to let him
go no worse for the experience. At the end of the day, he twisted the
switch back, and it emptied itself nicely.

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On Sep 22, 9:04 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:00:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

Good for the crabs.

yum, bluecrabs...

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:04:00 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:51 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a
day
of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the
water
combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a
battery
powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a perch to
steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote in body
flesh
integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.

Ah - well, there is a cure.

Ice and rock salt. You take a bag of ice (baggie, whatever) properly
sized for the bucket and add a little rock salt - say 1/4 - 1/3
handfull for a 5 gallon bucket.

Now you may ask why the rock salt. Well, three reasons. It changes
the pH of the water just a little which the little minnows like. The
minnows, odd as this may sound, like the water a little salty (not a
lot salty). The ice keeps the water cool which slows down their
metabolism keeping them alive longer. The salt also helps lower the
temperature of the water faster and keeps it cooler longer.

Now Grasshopper, go forth and fish in peace and harmony.

For our next lesson, we will discuss the proper rigging of a minnow
for maximum hook up. :)

We normally keep a perforated floating pail in the water to keep our extra
minnows alive and add to the on deck pail as needed. We add ice to the
water of the ones on the boat but they eventually die if the fishing is
slow.

Try the rock salt.

Another issue, sometimes not always, is that minnows will descale and
their waste will contaminate the water. One way to avoid that is to
circulate and filter the water. I just looked for a bookmark I had
for a small circulator and filter kit, but it seems I lost it somehow.

I'll take the time tomorrow and find it again. Cheap too - only like
15/20 bucks, but it does a great job. Works like an aquarium filter.

As far a putting the minnow on the hook...........perch will normally go
for
the head. The minnow is therefore hooked through the back down through
the
belley and back up through the head.

I never do that. I usually hook through the nostrils right below the
eyes.

Then again, I seldom use live bait. I've seen more ways to rig
minnows than you can shake a stick at and every one is as valid as the
other.

I have a bait bag on my boat when I use live bait. Anchovies with maybe a
sardine tossed in. Hangs on brackets on the back of the boat and a small
500 gph bilge pump sets on a bracket at the bottom of the transom. Pumps
fresh water into the bag and the excess runs out of small holes near the top
edge. If you were in a lake, the surface water being very warm may kill the
bait. But in SF Bay and the ocean warm water is not a concern.

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:33:18 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day
of
fishing?

You turn it on in either recycle, auto or constant circulation, prime
the circulator pump which on my boat means backing up a little to
force a little water into the line, then let it run.

When you are finished, put it in Empty or Drain position and it
empties.

Ask Scott how it works - works pretty good.

With respect to keeping a fish fresh, live wells will keep a fish
alive until you get time to bleed and gut it. Much better than ice.

Makes sense. Our live bait (minnows) die from lack of oxygen in the
water combined with rising water temps when kept in a bucket, even with a
battery powered air pump in the bucket. A dead minnow is easier for a
perch to steal off your hook than a live one as the dead ones deteriote in
body flesh integrity pretty fast and come off the hook easily.


What about a bait bucket that you drop in the water next to the boat? You
have to remember to haul it out before moving, but they work well. The
better ones have a weight* to keep the bucket oriented correctly. I've kept
minnows alive for an entire day with this kind of thing.

*Weight is known by the state of California to contain lead, which should
not be shredded onto food with a cheese grater.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also understand
keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish
intended to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually have to
put them on ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing they will
die along the way)? I have no problem keeping my catch fresh on ice in
the cooler throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day
of fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the end
of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is fine, but
live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL vary.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:15:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:10:50 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:00:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Culling. You keep the fish alive and well and at the end of the day,
cull for size.

There are folks who cull by simply throwing the smaller dead fish back in
the bay. Personally, I think that's why God made shotguns.

Good for the crabs.

Sometimes you cannot help it........most especially when the fish swallows
the hook. On Lake Erie these smaller (dead) ones become gull snack
food.........the circle of life.


I'm talking about folks who throw a dead 22" striper back because they just
caught a 24" striper. The limit is two fish. Some people just keep throwing
dead ones back when they catch a bigger one. Those folks deserve shooting.

Tha't's right too - forgot about that stupid Bay slot limit.

My bad.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:24:13 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

BTW: How does rock salt help with freshwater minnows?

The way it was explained to me by a biologist, the salt helps disperse
the oxygen better and helps maintain a more even temperature and pH in
the bait well/bucket.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

What about a bait bucket that you drop in the water next to the boat?

Warm surface temperatures will kill the fish pretty quick in fresh
water unless it's normally colder. On a lake or shallow water, you
will lose them pretty quickly.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:

Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}

Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.

Well, maybe not thousands but enough.

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On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}

Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.

Well, maybe not thousands but enough.

Am I not supposed to do that??

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"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues
by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.

Well, maybe not thousands but enough.

Am I not supposed to do that??



Maybe your Yankee blues are different, but I got bit pretty badly once by
a bluefish. Sticking my hand into a tank full of ****ed off bluefish is
not something I would do.

This isn't 'Boston Bluefish' that stinks like hell when cooked?
The old English lady who owned the house my parents rented a flat in cooked
that fish to feed to her cats.
Worse than Tom's cigars!

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

What about a bait bucket that you drop in the water next to the boat?

Warm surface temperatures will kill the fish pretty quick in fresh
water unless it's normally colder. On a lake or shallow water, you
will lose them pretty quickly.

Probably. We're attentive to the needs of the fish, so we remember to sink
the bucket completely, and I usually hang it over the LOW TRANSOM, where it
tends to remain shaded. This last thing is a little-known fact: The transom
always faces away from the sun because the storm of photons has the same
effect as the wind on a boat at anchor.

one....two....three.........

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

What about a bait bucket that you drop in the water next to the boat?
Warm surface temperatures will kill the fish pretty quick in fresh
water unless it's normally colder. On a lake or shallow water, you
will lose them pretty quickly.

Probably. We're attentive to the needs of the fish, so we remember to sink
the bucket completely, and I usually hang it over the LOW TRANSOM, where it
tends to remain shaded. This last thing is a little-known fact: The transom
always faces away from the sun because the storm of photons has the same
effect as the wind on a boat at anchor.

one....two....three.........




Well, you could fight back with a photon torpedo.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:41:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

What about a bait bucket that you drop in the water next to the boat?
Warm surface temperatures will kill the fish pretty quick in fresh
water unless it's normally colder. On a lake or shallow water, you
will lose them pretty quickly.

Probably. We're attentive to the needs of the fish, so we remember to
sink the bucket completely, and I usually hang it over the LOW TRANSOM,
where it tends to remain shaded. This last thing is a little-known fact:
The transom always faces away from the sun because the storm of photons
has the same effect as the wind on a boat at anchor.

one....two....three.........


Well, you could fight back with a photon torpedo.


Why? The photon storm is useful.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?



Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)

Trouble is...in here, the 'Herring' sh*ts all over the place and polutes the
entire newsgroup.

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:33:51 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)
Trouble is...in here, the 'Herring' sh*ts all over the place and polutes the
entire newsgroup.


How's your mom today, Don?



I'm cutting you and several others a new deal. You are temporarily out
of my bozo bin.

Beginning today, if you and the others I have released behave
reasonably, I will treat you the same way.

But when you post one of your snide little insults, as you have above,
I'll simply call you out on it thusly:


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from
______________________, and if you count them up, you will
see what he adds here in "boating" content.



The __________________, obviously, will be reserved for the name of the
insulter.


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Herring, and if you
count them up, you will see what he adds here in "boating" content.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me
caught a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind
doesn't materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also understand
keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish
intended to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually have to
put them on ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing they will
die along the way)? I have no problem keeping my catch fresh on ice in
the cooler throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a day
of fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL vary.



1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San Diego do
about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX leave at
6am and return at about 6 pm.

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?



Great sport fishing for herring. American Shad are the largest of the
herring and one of the great sport fish.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.
Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?



Great sport fishing for herring. American Shad are the largest of the
herring and one of the great sport fish.



Unfortunately, the herring fishery around here has pretty much been
destroyed by factory-style boats that overcatch the species
for...fertilizer, I believe.

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:18:41 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:33:51 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)
Trouble is...in here, the 'Herring' sh*ts all over the place and polutes the
entire newsgroup.

How's your mom today, Don?


I'm cutting you and several others a new deal. You are temporarily out
of my bozo bin.

Beginning today, if you and the others I have released behave
reasonably, I will treat you the same way.

But when you post one of your snide little insults, as you have above,
I'll simply call you out on it thusly:


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from
______________________, and if you count them up, you will
see what he adds here in "boating" content.



The __________________, obviously, will be reserved for the name of the
insulter.


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Herring, and if you
count them up, you will see what he adds here in "boating" content.


Harry, if asking Don how is mom is doing is an 'attack', then how would you
classify this:

"Trouble is...in here, the __________ ****s all over the place and polutes
the entire newsgroup."


(Insert name of your choosing in the _________)


Your constant repetition of the "mom" question aimed at Don is nothing
more than an insult.

Therefo

Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from John Herring, a
frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little
he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:17:08 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues, one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?

Makes great salmon bait!

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:33:51 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...

Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)

Trouble is...in here, the 'Herring' sh*ts all over the place and polutes the
entire newsgroup.


How's your mom today, Don?

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:18:41 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:33:51 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Naw. Usually I buy a block of frozen Herring and grind it up for chum.


Here, though, if you put out a tiny piece of bloodworm, the Herring will
bite on it 20 times a day, apparently. (My filter collects headers, not
contents.)
Trouble is...in here, the 'Herring' sh*ts all over the place and polutes the
entire newsgroup.


How's your mom today, Don?



I'm cutting you and several others a new deal. You are temporarily out
of my bozo bin.

Beginning today, if you and the others I have released behave
reasonably, I will treat you the same way.

But when you post one of your snide little insults, as you have above,
I'll simply call you out on it thusly:


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from
______________________, and if you count them up, you will
see what he adds here in "boating" content.



The __________________, obviously, will be reserved for the name of the
insulter.


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Herring, and if you
count them up, you will see what he adds here in "boating" content.


I'm honored, as usual!

Are you tracking your attacks also?