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[email protected] September 24th 07 12:38 AM

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On Sep 23, 4:04 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:


On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.


Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??


Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.


"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."


~~ sheesh ~~


Hey, I got bit...and badly...by a bluefish I caught in St. Augustine
inlet. It was my fault, but bit I got.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


pansy


Dan September 24th 07 12:42 AM

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HK wrote:


How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from "Harry Krause",
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.

[email protected] September 24th 07 12:42 AM

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On Sep 23, 4:16 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:


On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues
by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.


Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.


"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."


~~ sheesh ~~


ROTF!


I lost a quarter of an inch of my left thumb to a bluefish. I kid you
not. Had I not duct-taped it back on, I would have lost my thumb tip for
sure.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You should have used vicegrips to close the wound, then you could beat
the monster bluefish (laughing so frekin' hard right now) about the
head.. Bring him home, and pin him up against he frekin' wall with
your pickup truck, (dejablue) frekin' bluefish... sheesh. You sound
like my kid when I told her to lip the big brown trout;)


John H. September 24th 07 12:43 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:06:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

I've said that before. Anything to keep you on a sociable level has to be
good. Do you get more pleasure from attacks and derogatory comments than
you do talking about your mom or your boat?

Try answering the question instead of snipping!



Hard to believe a person who had a carreer in the military leading men and
even worse...supposedly showing leadership to impressionable students as
their teacher,
would use someone's mother as a lever or control tool against them.
No wonder the world is 'going to hell in a hand basket'.


How was your mother being used 'against' you? Is keeping the conversation
sociable 'against' you?

[email protected] September 24th 07 12:43 AM

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On Sep 23, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:


On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues
by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.


Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.


"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."


~~ sheesh ~~
ROTF!


I lost a quarter of an inch of my left thumb to a bluefish. I kid you not.
Had I not duct-taped it back on, I would have lost my thumb tip for sure.


Having never seen one I didn't know. Sorry.


They're toothy and aggressive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, like the little killer bunny in Monte Python...


HK September 24th 07 01:05 AM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:



How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?


The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.

I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.



Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.

Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I can
assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in rough
enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the deck.

I favor reusing boat names.

Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.

HK September 24th 07 01:07 AM

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wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??

Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~


sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)



Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}

HK September 24th 07 01:08 AM

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wrote:
On Sep 23, 4:04 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:
On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.
"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."
~~ sheesh ~~

Hey, I got bit...and badly...by a bluefish I caught in St. Augustine
inlet. It was my fault, but bit I got.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


pansy



Not me. I taped it up and kept on feeeeeshing.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 01:16 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~


sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)


Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}


Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...

JoeSpareBedroom September 24th 07 01:19 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the
livewell, and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a
few blues, one decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who
accompanied me caught a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if
the forecasted wind doesn't materialize. Didn't see Herring out
there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also
understand keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish
intended to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually have
to put them on ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing
they will die along the way)? I have no problem keeping my catch
fresh on ice in the cooler throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a
day of fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL
vary.



1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in
MX leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.



When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.


When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?



Yes.



HK September 24th 07 01:20 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)

Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}


Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...



I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}

Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 01:22 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:20:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)
Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}


Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...


I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}


1 - I don't eat garlic. Ever.

2 - Cigars don't light underwater, but I have my stable of captive
alien scientists from Koosebain working on it.

3 - See #1.

John H. September 24th 07 01:23 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:49:16 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:18:59 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:

So what we have here is yet another of the many daily attacks from John
Herring,
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
As a matter of fact, I do. I went through the aging and dying mom bit a few
years ago. Plus, it diverts him from his attack posts, which you seem to
insist on.

Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Harry Krause, a
frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from John Herring,
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.

No attacks from me, Herring. Just pointing out yours. Lately virtually
everything you post is a cheap shot at someone else. Count 'em up. Start
with today...so far, I believe everything you have posted but for one is
a snark remark.
Harry, your cute little idea is nothing more than a front for more attack
posts.

Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Harry Krause, a
frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.


Nope. I am simply pointing out that the majority of your posts are
nothing more than snark attacks.

Count 'em up the last two weeks. Dozens and dozens and dozens of little
bites from you almost anytime someone you don't like posts.


And you could easily say the same for yourself, Harry.

Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Harry Krause, a
frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.



How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?


The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.

I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

John H. September 24th 07 01:33 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:26:52 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:06:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
I've said that before. Anything to keep you on a sociable level has to be
good. Do you get more pleasure from attacks and derogatory comments than
you do talking about your mom or your boat?

Try answering the question instead of snipping!

Hard to believe a person who had a carreer in the military leading men and
even worse...supposedly showing leadership to impressionable students as
their teacher,
would use someone's mother as a lever or control tool against them.
No wonder the world is 'going to hell in a hand basket'.


How was your mother being used 'against' you? Is keeping the conversation
sociable 'against' you?



We all know the game you play by bringing up Don's mom about 20 times a
day, therefo

Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from John Herring,
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.


Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from Harry Krause,
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.

John H. September 24th 07 02:22 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:



How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?


The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.

I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.



Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.


Thanks.

Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I can
assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in rough
enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat get
too full of water.

I favor reusing boat names.


Good!

Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.


I just call the folks at Tylers. They've always been spot on about the
water conditions off Chesapeake Beach.

HK September 24th 07 02:48 AM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.

I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.


Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.


Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I can
assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in rough
enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat get
too full of water.


:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.



I favor reusing boat names.


Good!
Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.


I just call the folks at Tylers. They've always been spot on about the
water conditions off Chesapeake Beach.



Tylers has no clear view of the Bay. Do they dispatch someone over to
the little memorial park to peer over the bushes?

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 03:40 AM

Today's Feeeeeshing Report
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:



How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or
not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into
the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above
water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you
going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer?
When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South
Carolina?


The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so
easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.



Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.


It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 03:42 AM

Today's Feeeeeshing Report
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are welcome to think what you will.


Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in
rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the
deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat
get
too full of water.


:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.


JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)

HK September 24th 07 03:49 AM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:



How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?

The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.



Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain
even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat
weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are
welcome to think what you will.


It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.



Does it really, Reggie? Is that what you think, based upon your many
years of experience with dozens of different boats? To me, it just means
two different sizes and styles of boats, with substantially different
methods of construction.

But you are welcome to think what you will.

HK September 24th 07 03:52 AM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp,
which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but
probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are welcome to think what you will.

Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in
rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto
the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the
boat get
too full of water.


:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.


JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)



There are quite a few inlets in the bay, but very, very few are
"interesting" in terms of presenting rough water, strong currents,
offshore winds, signficant tides, et cetera.

Now you know. Got any such "interesting" inlets on that unnamed lake
where you boat?

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 04:21 AM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK
wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast
can you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the
sides, or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water
slops over into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are
your scuppers above water with that heavy engine? What are you
naming it? Where are you going to keep it, assuming you are going
to keep it on a trailer? When will you be leaving the area for
North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read
in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp,
which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet.
It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but
probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be
able to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions,
since your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has
less length. But you are welcome to think what you will.

Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and
in rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and
onto the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the
boat get
too full of water.

:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.


JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)



There are quite a few inlets in the bay, but very, very few are
"interesting" in terms of presenting rough water, strong currents,
offshore winds, signficant tides, et cetera.

Now you know. Got any such "interesting" inlets on that unnamed lake
where you boat?


No.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 04:23 AM

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:


How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?

The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.


Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are wlcome to think what you will.


It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.



Does it really, Reggie? Is that what you think, based upon your many
years of experience with dozens of different boats? To me, it just means
two different sizes and styles of boats, with substantially different
methods of construction.

But you are welcome to think what you will.


Oh, I was basing my comments on your critique of JohnH's boat no being
able to run as comfortable as yours, and that you would be able to run
your boat faster. I didn't know his was just as good as yours.

Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:22 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:57:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:15:37 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the
livewell,
and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a few blues,
one
decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who accompanied me
caught
a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if the forecasted wind
doesn't
materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.
Rain and thunder kept me in, but that's OK.... it gave me time to
work
on the AM/FM/Satellite install......


Do you really fish for Herring?


Great sport fishing for herring. American Shad are the largest of the
herring and one of the great sport fish.
Unfortunately, the herring fishery around here has pretty much been
destroyed by factory-style boats that overcatch the species
for...fertilizer, I believe.

They fish the herring for the roe and the rest goes to cat food and
fertilizer.




Yes, I read an article not long ago about the demise of that species in
this area, and I recall those uses being mentioned. Well, at least the
cat food and fertilizer part.


Down in SC, you can't get rid of the damned things in the lakes.


Herring not shad. At least no American Shad.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:22 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:55:20 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Just a nice semi-overcast day on the Bay. Caught about 15 spot on
Berkley bloodworms and very small hooks, dumped them into the
livewell, and went in search of big fish via livelining. Caught a
few
blues, one decent sized striper, but he escaped. Neighbor who
accompanied me caught a keeper striper. May try again tomorrow if
the
forecasted wind doesn't materialize. Didn't see Herring out there.

I understand keeping live bait alive in a livewell. I also
understand keeping fish alive in one when tournament fishing.

With that understanding........what is the purpose of keeping fish
intended to be on the dinner table in one knowing you eventually
have
to put them on ice during the trip from the boat to home (knowing
they
will die along the way)? I have no problem keeping my catch fresh
on
ice in the cooler throughout a day of fishing.

Lastly....how do you start up and then shut down a livewell after a
day of fishing?

I never had a livewell so excuse the questions.

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.


When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?


Oddly enough, I have done it.


So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:24 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:20:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)
Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}

Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...


I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}


1 - I don't eat garlic. Ever.

2 - Cigars don't light underwater, but I have my stable of captive
alien scientists from Koosebain working on it.

3 - See #1.


An Alien Vampire. SW gets scarier by the day.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 07:25 AM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 23, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:


On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues
by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.


Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.


"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."


~~ sheesh ~~
ROTF!


I lost a quarter of an inch of my left thumb to a bluefish. I kid you
not.
Had I not duct-taped it back on, I would have lost my thumb tip for
sure.


Having never seen one I didn't know. Sorry.


They're toothy and aggressive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, like the little killer bunny in Monte Python...


I thought that was in President Carter.



Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 11:10 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:24:45 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:20:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0000,
wrote:

On Sep 23, 6:30 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:35:05 -0400, HK
wrote:
Which one of you geniuses reaches into the livewell to grab the
blues by
the tail? :}
Scott did, but I've done it thousands of time.
Well, maybe not thousands but enough.
Am I not supposed to do that??
Perfectly fine, but Harry is a pansy.

"oh - oh - the fishy is going to bite me..."

~~ sheesh ~~
sheesh... poor harry, he better stick to flukin' ;)
Yeah, I hear our boy Tom stares down Great Whites, too. Is he that
fearsome looking? :}

Damn straight.

I strike fear into everything and everybody.

Mostly it's because I'm an uncoordinated putz, but still...

I heard that the sharks were scared because of those garlic and cigar
laden odors you exude... :}


1 - I don't eat garlic. Ever.

2 - Cigars don't light underwater, but I have my stable of captive
alien scientists from Koosebain working on it.

3 - See #1.


An Alien Vampire. SW gets scarier by the day.


Well, hell. If I told you the truth about my origins, you'd find the
nearest deep hole, get to the bottom and pull the hole in after you.

Alien vampires ain't nuttin' compared to the...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Short Wave Sportfishing September 24th 07 11:12 AM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:22:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Herring not shad. At least no American Shad.


I thought we were discussing blue back herring?

JoeSpareBedroom September 24th 07 11:56 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long
and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.

When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?


Oddly enough, I have done it.


So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.


If someone tells you they'll stop by in "about 1/2 hour" and they arrive in
20 minutes, do you have convulsions?



HK September 24th 07 04:49 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:48:08 -0400, HK wrote:


Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.
I just call the folks at Tylers. They've always been spot on about the
water conditions off Chesapeake Beach.


Tylers has no clear view of the Bay. Do they dispatch someone over to
the little memorial park to peer over the bushes?


They can walk up to the flag and get a great view. Or, they can just look
at the flag. I've never known them to be wrong. Of course they may get
their info from folks who've actually been on the water that day and just
pass it on. Try 'em, you just might like 'em.



I shop sometimes at Tylers. I used to buy minnows there before I got my
minnow traps set up. Also, if you need a fishing rod repaired, Tylers
has someone who picks them up and returns them fixed in under two weeks.
Or at least they did that for me.

The weather station Mike at BP wants to put up will show a bit more than
a flag waving.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 05:07 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:40:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or
not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into
the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above
water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you
going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer?
When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South
Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so
easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.

It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.


Absolutely! Hell, I went the cheap route - no $38000 boat for me!

That Parker also has a little over twice the weight and the same engine.
That in itself makes it a much better boat. As I'm not into high speeds any
time while in the bay, I don't know how fast this little bugger will go.
But, I'm sure Harry's will outperform it in every way.


Sometimes you just have to know when you are outclassed in every way.
You will never be a legend.




Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 05:14 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:42:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are welcome to think what you will.
Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in
rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the
deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat
get
too full of water.
:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.

JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)


The area around the bay is, for the most part, very flat. So, we don't have
the inlets which may be found in Maine or an area with hilly terrain. There
are several rivers which dump into the bay that are within an hour or two
of Deale, but the mouths of these cause nary a ripple in the bay waters.
Most of the rivers are quite shallow, as is most of the bay. By shallow I
mean less than 30'.


Well, I guess you don't have to worry about running any "interesting
inlets" either on the CB or your new inland lake.


HK September 24th 07 05:21 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:40:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or
not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into
the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above
water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you
going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer?
When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South
Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so
easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.

It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.


Absolutely! Hell, I went the cheap route - no $38000 boat for me!

That Parker also has a little over twice the weight and the same engine.
That in itself makes it a much better boat. As I'm not into high speeds any
time while in the bay, I don't know how fast this little bugger will go.
But, I'm sure Harry's will outperform it in every way.



Twice the weight? Your boat, sans engine, weighs less than 1450 pounds?
Really?

My guess is that your new boat will hit between 46 and 49 mph with a
reasonable load, the proper prop and flat water and wind conditions.

You didn't take a demo ride before you bought? I got a ride in a boat
with the same hull as the 2100CC before I bought.


HK September 24th 07 05:23 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:42:15 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to
the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine
at WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run
(comfortably) in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able
to maintain even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since
your new boat weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less
length. But you are welcome to think what you will.
Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I
can assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in
rough enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the
deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat
get
too full of water.
:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.

JohnH,
I am not familiar with Deale or the part of CB you boat, do you have
many inlets up that way? ;)


The area around the bay is, for the most part, very flat. So, we don't have
the inlets which may be found in Maine or an area with hilly terrain. There
are several rivers which dump into the bay that are within an hour or two
of Deale, but the mouths of these cause nary a ripple in the bay waters.
Most of the rivers are quite shallow, as is most of the bay. By shallow I
mean less than 30'.



I thought you "hung out" at the Pax Naval Rec Center. The Pax River is
what, 70-90' deep? There are substantial parts of the Bay that are 80'
or deeper, though certainly not along the edges, or even a mile or so
out. Amazingly flat bottom.


HK September 24th 07 05:26 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:49:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain
even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat
weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are
welcome to think what you will.
It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.


Does it really, Reggie? Is that what you think, based upon your many
years of experience with dozens of different boats? To me, it just means
two different sizes and styles of boats, with substantially different
methods of construction.

But you are welcome to think what you will.


Harry, what are the substantial differences in the method of construction?



Get a "plug" from the factory that is representative of the bottom and
hullsides of your new boat.

John H. September 24th 07 05:41 PM

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:48:08 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:05:49 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can you
run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides, or not?
When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over into the
cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers above water with
that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where are you going to keep
it, assuming you are going to keep it on a trailer? When will you be
leaving the area for North Carolina? Or was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.

I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably next
spring. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain even
the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat weighs
a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are welcome
to think what you will.


Thanks.
Two of my Sea Pros had transoms similar to what is on your boat. I can
assure you, you will see water coming in over the transom and in rough
enough conditions, pouring out over the motor well and onto the deck.

Well, much of that is due to operator error. I try not to let the boat get
too full of water.


:} Report back when you have run a few interesting inlets.



I favor reusing boat names.


Good!
Mike at BP is contemplating having a TV service mount a professional
camera and weather instruments on the roof of his main building. If he
does, you'll be able to see water conditions from your house.


I just call the folks at Tylers. They've always been spot on about the
water conditions off Chesapeake Beach.



Tylers has no clear view of the Bay. Do they dispatch someone over to
the little memorial park to peer over the bushes?


They can walk up to the flag and get a great view. Or, they can just look
at the flag. I've never known them to be wrong. Of course they may get
their info from folks who've actually been on the water that day and just
pass it on. Try 'em, you just might like 'em.

Reginald P. Smithers III September 24th 07 05:48 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:26:40 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:49:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:10 -0400, HK wrote:
How's your new boat, John? Have you splashed it yet? How fast can
you run it in our usual hard chop? Take much spray over the sides,
or not? When you stop fast from a plane, how much water slops over
into the cockpit when the engine well is full? Are your scuppers
above water with that heavy engine? What are you naming it? Where
are you going to keep it, assuming you are going to keep it on a
trailer? When will you be leaving the area for North Carolina? Or
was it South Carolina?
The new boat won't be here for another 4-6 weeks, as you've read in an
earlier post.
I'll be able to run it about as fast as the Proline or your Parker
without
any problem. Spray over the sides will be less than either the
Proline or
the Parker. The engine weighs only 62 lbs more than the 115hp, which is
about the weight of a couple decent stripers, and the transom is
complete,
so I'm not worried about water coming into the boat. I'll probably
keep it
in my driveway, but may put it in Breezy. Haven't decided yet. It's
so easy
to trailer that I'm not too worried about just keeping it here and
trailering where ever I want to go. Haven't given much thought to the
name
yet, but Poco Loco Too may work. Any ideas?

When we move, it will probably be to NC. Not sure when, but probably
next
spring. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks for the update.

I would guess your new boat would be about 7-8 mph faster than mine at
WOT, but what I was asking you was how fast it would run (comfortably)
in our usual short chop here. I doubt you will be able to maintain
even the speed I can maintain in such conditions, since your new boat
weighs a lot less, has less deadrise, and has less length. But you are
welcome to think what you will.
It sounds like you have a much better boat than JohnH, no doubt about it.
Does it really, Reggie? Is that what you think, based upon your many
years of experience with dozens of different boats? To me, it just means
two different sizes and styles of boats, with substantially different
methods of construction.

But you are welcome to think what you will.
Harry, what are the substantial differences in the method of construction?


Get a "plug" from the factory that is representative of the bottom and
hullsides of your new boat.


Haven't you already checked it out?


JohnH,
Yes but if you check it out, you will see how terrible your brand new
boat is. Then you will hate your brand new boat for as long as you keep it.


Calif Bill September 24th 07 05:58 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long
and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.

When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?

Oddly enough, I have done it.


So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.


If someone tells you they'll stop by in "about 1/2 hour" and they arrive
in 20 minutes, do you have convulsions?


No, but wife's do.



Calif Bill September 24th 07 06:01 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:22:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Herring not shad. At least no American Shad.


I thought we were discussing blue back herring?


Nope, the sal****er herring. There is a big fishery for herring in SF Bay.
But they have overfished it, and the take was dropping. The fisher's
proposed smaller mesh net, and the state was going to go along with them,
until a lawsuit was threatened. Would not have had enough escapee's to
spawn.



JoeSpareBedroom September 24th 07 06:03 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

I don't know of any reason to keep those fish you intend to eat at
the
end of a day's trip in the livewell.

Because 1/2 a day equals 12 hours. If you're out fishing that long
and
bluefish are the reward, you keep them half a day fresher. Ice is
fine,
but live is better. Your mileage may vary. Matter of fact, it WILL
v

1/2 day does not equal 12 hours when fishing. 1/2 day boats in San
Diego
do about 6 hours and the 3/4 day boats that go to the Coronados in
MX
leave at 6am and return at about 6 pm.

When I say 1/2 day, it means 12 hours. I don't care what a bunch of
California pansies use as the definition.

When you go for a day fishing, do you spend 24 hours out in the lake?

Oddly enough, I have done it.

So have I but, is known as an overnight boat or trip.


If someone tells you they'll stop by in "about 1/2 hour" and they arrive
in 20 minutes, do you have convulsions?


No, but wife's do.


I'm heading out for 5/24ths of a day of fishing. There's a particular spot
on Lake Ontario where unconscious smallmouth have been seen. The NY DEC has
determined that overcrowding is the problem. They recorded a series of odd
coconut sounds underwater. It was the fish's heads colliding. I have to do
something about their numbers.




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