Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:



The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

Was the ranger alone except for the guy with red skin?
Your story is beginning to make sense.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.

Same here on the wildlife, but without the other stuff.
Oh, and the wildlife is mostly skunks, squirrels, and mice.

--Vic



I forgot skunks. We have those, too!

The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river.
It's pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific
canoeing and smallie fishing.

"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:



The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

Was the ranger alone except for the guy with red skin?
Your story is beginning to make sense.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.

Same here on the wildlife, but without the other stuff.
Oh, and the wildlife is mostly skunks, squirrels, and mice.

--Vic



I forgot skunks. We have those, too!

The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river. It's
pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific canoeing and
smallie fishing.


When you see them all at once, it's interesting. Last night, I went out to
the veg garden to harass the deer with the Big Time Flashlight. Along with 4
young deer, there were 4 pairs of eyes belonging to creatures about a foot
tall. It's getting like a friggin' Disney cartoon around here.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:


The bear cave is genuine. A ranger came out one day to examine the cave,
tracks, stool, and some of the remains of eaten animals, and determined
there were bears living in the cave off and on.

Was the ranger alone except for the guy with red skin?
Your story is beginning to make sense.

We live out in the country next to woods, forests, farms and Chesapeake
Bay. Lots of wildlife.
Same here on the wildlife, but without the other stuff.
Oh, and the wildlife is mostly skunks, squirrels, and mice.

--Vic


I forgot skunks. We have those, too!

The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river. It's
pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific canoeing and
smallie fishing.


When you see them all at once, it's interesting. Last night, I went out to
the veg garden to harass the deer with the Big Time Flashlight. Along with 4
young deer, there were 4 pairs of eyes belonging to creatures about a foot
tall. It's getting like a friggin' Disney cartoon around here.




Raccoons, I bet.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:07:38 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


When you see them all at once, it's interesting. Last night, I went out to
the veg garden to harass the deer with the Big Time Flashlight. Along with 4
young deer, there were 4 pairs of eyes belonging to creatures about a foot
tall. It's getting like a friggin' Disney cartoon around here.

Raccoons, I bet.

Maybe nightmare bar. Heard tell they got 8 eyes and slouch down low
fore they pounce.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:01:17 -0400, HK wrote:



The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river.
It's pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific
canoeing and smallie fishing.

Wow, never thought you had smallmouth there. Outside of bluegills and
rock bass, best fighting fresh water fish - ounce for ounce.
You know, I've always wanted to live by Chesapeake Bay, for a lot
of reasons. Just seems like a rich place in many ways.
If I can't convince my wife to move to Florida, that's the second area
I'll work on.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:01:17 -0400, HK wrote:


The guy's place out at the Shenandoah is along the river and between two
heavily wooded mountain ranges. For me, the draw there is the river.
It's pretty clean, usually fast running, and offers just terrific
canoeing and smallie fishing.

Wow, never thought you had smallmouth there. Outside of bluegills and
rock bass, best fighting fresh water fish - ounce for ounce.
You know, I've always wanted to live by Chesapeake Bay, for a lot
of reasons. Just seems like a rich place in many ways.
If I can't convince my wife to move to Florida, that's the second area
I'll work on.

--Vic


We lived in Florida for more than five years, in NE Florida, just
outside of St. Augustine for most of the time. I enjoyed the weather,
which was moderate for Florida (bearable heat, and a spring and fall),
the beautiful uncrowded beaches, the fishing, et cetera. Culturally, it
was a wasteland, and if you went a bit further north, you were
surrounded by simple minded religious zealots.

South Florida on the Atlantic Side is a great place to visit in the
winter, but too hot for me in the summer. The other south Florida, on
the Gulf side, is just too hot and muggy for me most of the year, but
some parts of it that haven't been overdeveloped are pretty.

The Keys are nice, too, so long as you have a good way to get the hell
out of there if a hurricane is coming. A seaplane is best.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:15:51 -0400, HK wrote:


We lived in Florida for more than five years, in NE Florida, just
outside of St. Augustine for most of the time. I enjoyed the weather,
which was moderate for Florida (bearable heat, and a spring and fall),
the beautiful uncrowded beaches, the fishing, et cetera. Culturally, it
was a wasteland, and if you went a bit further north, you were
surrounded by simple minded religious zealots.

South Florida on the Atlantic Side is a great place to visit in the
winter, but too hot for me in the summer. The other south Florida, on
the Gulf side, is just too hot and muggy for me most of the year, but
some parts of it that haven't been overdeveloped are pretty.

The Keys are nice, too, so long as you have a good way to get the hell
out of there if a hurricane is coming. A seaplane is best.

The weather tradeoffs are the most important for me. For years I felt
good about living in Chicago, with the museums, opera, playhouses,
libraries, restaurants, night life, etc.
But I hardly used any of it, just got out of town to go fishing.
Of course I'd seen most of the attractions, growing up there.
Lots of stuff I'd like to see on the east coast.
I've spent time on both sides of Florida and think I like the gulf
side because the waters are calmer. But it sure is hot.
I've heard good things about the St. Augustine area and should check
it out.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:15:51 -0400, HK wrote:


We lived in Florida for more than five years, in NE Florida, just
outside of St. Augustine for most of the time. I enjoyed the weather,
which was moderate for Florida (bearable heat, and a spring and fall),
the beautiful uncrowded beaches, the fishing, et cetera. Culturally, it
was a wasteland, and if you went a bit further north, you were
surrounded by simple minded religious zealots.

South Florida on the Atlantic Side is a great place to visit in the
winter, but too hot for me in the summer. The other south Florida, on
the Gulf side, is just too hot and muggy for me most of the year, but
some parts of it that haven't been overdeveloped are pretty.

The Keys are nice, too, so long as you have a good way to get the hell
out of there if a hurricane is coming. A seaplane is best.

The weather tradeoffs are the most important for me. For years I felt
good about living in Chicago, with the museums, opera, playhouses,
libraries, restaurants, night life, etc.
But I hardly used any of it, just got out of town to go fishing.
Of course I'd seen most of the attractions, growing up there.
Lots of stuff I'd like to see on the east coast.
I've spent time on both sides of Florida and think I like the gulf
side because the waters are calmer. But it sure is hot.
I've heard good things about the St. Augustine area and should check
it out.

--Vic


Ahh. Chicago. My wife and I love visiting Chicago on business and
pleasure. My father in law is a White Sox fan, so he works overtime in
his retirement to figure out reasons to take the train there.

St. Augustine area has a lot to offer, as does the Fernindina Beach area
in extreme NE Florida. The latter somehow has escaped the bible-thumping
idjits for the most part. Too many bikinis on the beaches, maybe. For a
while, the cops in one of the Jax suburbs were actually arresting babes
for wearing "too revealing" swimsuits while at the beach.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:49:39 -0400, HK wrote:

I've heard good things about the St. Augustine area and should check
it out.

Too cold in the winter for my tastes although a lovely town and a half
decent inlet. There is really no part of Florida that I care to be
in the summer months so best to optimize for winter and go north in
the summer, far north.