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How to **** off the family...
NOYB wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Jack Goff wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:46:50 -0400, HK wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... So my son has friends with poontoon boats and it would seem that Mrs. Wave has an interest in this "slow boat" approach, so we went looking today with intention to buy. So we were talking to the sales guy and he's very helpful - up until he mentionied power options. I don't want a four stroke - no, no, no. I want two stroke. They don't install two strokes on new boats. Ok...well, let's explore another option. Just the boat - no rigging, no engine and a trailer. I'll install my own engine, guages and controls. So the sales guy asks - what kind of engine to which I reply that I have a source of ETECs and I can have an engine, gages and controls here by Thursday, rig it myself (I have the software on this computer) and be on the water by Friday. Anybody want to guess what happened next? He whuped you upside the head? I would think this would be the ideal setup for 4 strokes..... After all, it's like a floating deck. Who wants to recline in a nice comfy chaise trying to listen to nature with noisy, smelly 2 strokes ruining the atmosphere. But those E-tecs have that neck-snapping acceleration which is so important on a pontoon boat. /sarcasm Just what I want on my boat...neck-snapping acceleration. So I can... Hmmmm. You know, I'm not sure it matters if it takes four, five, six or seven seconds for my boat to get up on plane. I guess if I boated on an itty-bitty lake, acceleration would matter. After all, you can get from one side to the other faster. It matters if you want to ski, and especially slalom ski, behind your pontoon boat. I slalom ski behind my Bennington 25' Tri-toon with a 150hp Johnson. Your seven-second planing boat doesn't interest me. Maybe when I get older, I'll change my tune. Jack And everyone on shore says, "Look at that jackoff waterskiing behind that pontoon boat..." Hey, I'm not knocking pontoon boats. They're a lot of fun on calm lakes and rivers and certainly more comfy for casual fishing than your typical fishing boat. Waterskiing behind a vessel that has a turning radius that covers half the lake is a bad idea. Hey...he's a jackoff...what do you expect? I waterskied behind a Viking sportfish once. And only once. The wake was great, but the fumes made me a bit ill. |
#22
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How to **** off the family...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:38:17 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
Waterskiing behind a vessel that has a turning radius that covers half the lake is a bad idea. Why? The lake is large, the turns don't have to be tight, it's not crowded when we ski, and the boat actually has a decent turning radius. This is not your dad's pontoon. :-) |
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How to **** off the family...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:45:53 -0400, HK wrote:
Hey...he's a jackoff...what do you expect? Oh, harry's becoming infatuated with me. Keep it up, and I'll dump you in my bozo bin. And I really have one. I waterskied behind a Viking sportfish once. And only once. The wake was great, but the fumes made me a bit ill. You? Waterski? Must have been a coal-burning, steam powered boat. Internal combustion hadn't been invented yet when you were still that young. |
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How to **** off the family...
"Jack Goff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:38:17 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: Waterskiing behind a vessel that has a turning radius that covers half the lake is a bad idea. Why? The lake is large, the turns don't have to be tight, it's not crowded when we ski, and the boat actually has a decent turning radius. This is not your dad's pontoon. :-) My dad has two Boston Whalers and a Formula. He wouldn't be caught dead in a pontoon. ;-) |
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How to **** off the family...
On Jul 17, 2:15?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Anybody want to guess what happened next? It depends on how sharp a deal you drove on the boat itself. If it's a model in short supply, he could have let you walk. When you bring in your own engine and do your own rigging that isn't very attractive to the dealership. No profit from the sale of the engine, no $100/hour labor charge to have a $12/hour apprentice mount the engine, no brownie points with the outboard manufacturer that the dealership is normally affiliated with, no opportunity to pitch you on the wonderful benefits of an extended engine warranty, etc. If I were selling somebody a new boat with a warranty, I'd be particularly leary of a deal in which the customer were doing his own rigging. The customer's installation and the boat itself interface in so many ways that the odds of heated discussions over whether some unsatisfactory aspect of performance, etc, was due to a defective hull vs. defective rigging are pertty high. Then there's the unintended negative publicity in the many inevitable conversations that will go something like this; "Hey, Tom! Nice looking pontoon boat. But when did Wholly Smoke Marine start rigging those two-stroke Torquemaster outboards? I thought they used four-stroke Edselizers instead?" "They do, but I think those Edselizers are a real POS. I wouldn't own a boat rigged with an Edselizer. The guys at Wholly Smoke were pretty embarrassed about having to send a truck over to their competitor's to pay retail for a new Torquemaster; but I wasn't going to let them jam one of those Edselizers down my throat, no way!" ****** It wouldn't be impossible for your transaction to wind up with, "Mr & Mrs Wave, we don't just sell boats here at Wholly Smoke- we want to get you happily involved in a totally satisfactory experience. Based upon scores of previous sales of this model, we are convinced that our most satisfied customers have all selected one of our recommended engines. I would urge you to do the same. Your satisfaction is so important to us that we would, (very very reluctantly), rather lose your business to a competitor than equip you with a package that our extensive experience with this product indicates would be less than optimally matched to the hull. If you *were* choosing one of our recommended engines, which one would it be?" That's shorthand, of course, for "we need the profit from the engine, rigging, and potential f&i revenue for the deal to make any sense to us", but it's a little easier to send and receive. :-) |
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How to **** off the family...
On Jul 17, 5:15 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Anybody want to guess what happened next? You decided that if you are gonna' go that slow, you might as well have a big fat skiff |
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How to **** off the family...
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:05:00 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:38:17 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: Waterskiing behind a vessel that has a turning radius that covers half the lake is a bad idea. Why? The lake is large, the turns don't have to be tight, it's not crowded when we ski, and the boat actually has a decent turning radius. This is not your dad's pontoon. :-) My dad has two Boston Whalers and a Formula. He wouldn't be caught dead in a pontoon. ;-) Why, is he insecure? ;-) Seriously, since we boat on a large lake, a pontoon is the ideal boat for us. It's a 25ft tri-toon with a 150hp on it. It will do 35mph, has a far better ride than any fiberglass boat, more room than anything in it's size, we can leave it in the water year-round in its slip without any bottom coating expense and worries so we don't have to trailer it, and we can tube and ski on it. It has a changing room with a porta-pottie in it for when the weather gets chilly (for my wife). About every 6 months we have the same discussion... should we get a different boat? After weighing the options, it always comes back around to the same thing... nothing else has all the advantages without bringing along some significant downsides. And I have no self-image issues. :-) |
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How to **** off the family...
On Jul 17, 4:15 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Anybody want to guess what happened next? We're eagerly waiting for the punch line....... |
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How to **** off the family...
Tim wrote:
On Jul 17, 4:15 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Anybody want to guess what happened next? We're eagerly waiting for the punch line....... Apparently Tom was arrested and carted off to jail... :} |
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How to **** off the family...
On Jul 19, 6:41 pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jul 17, 4:15 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Anybody want to guess what happened next? We're eagerly waiting for the punch line....... Apparently Tom was arrested and carted off to jail... :} Or white coated to the nearest asylum.... |
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