On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:30:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Maybe we should
remember what the job of the military is. To kill people.

And break stuff.

Don't leave out the break stuff.

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The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't and
isn't an idiot.
But he was also a poor POTUS.
I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.
We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic extremists,
if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage Crises. Showed
the Middle East they could do what they want with no consequences.


You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?


If Bush had done something about the War on Terror, Osama bin Laden might
be in a prison by now.

Ya wanna hear cynical? Here's my prediction. OBL is living in Crawford.
Within 5 years, he will have his own talk show on every imaginable radio
station owned by Clear Channel. Bush will be his most frequent caller.

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't and
isn't an idiot.
But he was also a poor POTUS.
I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.
We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic extremists,
if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage Crises. Showed
the Middle East they could do what they want with no consequences.

You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?

If Bush had done something about the War on Terror, Osama bin Laden might
be in a prison by now.

Ya wanna hear cynical? Here's my prediction. OBL is living in Crawford.
Within 5 years, he will have his own talk show on every imaginable radio
station owned by Clear Channel. Bush will be his most frequent caller.




Nothing nefarious regarding Bush would surprise me at this point.

Last night, John Edwards, when asked what he would do first if elected
president, said he would spend most of his first year traveling around
the world, trying to patch up relationships with other countries.

It's going to take decades to undo the damage Bush has done. If it can
be undone.

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't and
isn't an idiot.

But he was also a poor POTUS.

I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.

We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic extremists,
if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage Crises. Showed
the Middle East they could do what they want with no consequences.


You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?


Maybe we should take a lesson from the Russians when they had their
personnel kidnapped in Beirut. They caught a couple of the same group and
chopped them up and sent the parts to the rest. With a statement that
there would be or 10x for every hostage killed. We screwed up kicking
over the bees nest in Iraq, so now we have to deal with the bees. Maybe
we should remember what the job of the military is. To kill people. Kill
a lot more of the bad guys, and wipe out any town or neighborhood helping
them. Would be calmed down very soon.

You've been watching too many of Arnold's old movies.

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't and
isn't an idiot.

But he was also a poor POTUS.

I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.

We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic extremists,
if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage Crises. Showed
the Middle East they could do what they want with no consequences.


You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?


Maybe we should take a lesson from the Russians when they had their
personnel kidnapped in Beirut. They caught a couple of the same group and
chopped them up and sent the parts to the rest. With a statement that
there would be or 10x for every hostage killed. We screwed up kicking
over the bees nest in Iraq, so now we have to deal with the bees. Maybe
we should remember what the job of the military is. To kill people. Kill
a lot more of the bad guys, and wipe out any town or neighborhood helping
them. Would be calmed down very soon.


Yeah. Destroying towns. That would help.

Here's my crazy idea. Every member of congress must the book below, and
someone must read it to President Rove. (Bush can listen, but it would be
pointless). If they still think we belong in Iraq, we have them
involuntarily institutionalized.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...93329681&itm=2

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't and
isn't an idiot.
But he was also a poor POTUS.
I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.
We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic extremists,
if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage Crises. Showed
the Middle East they could do what they want with no consequences.

You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?

Maybe we should take a lesson from the Russians when they had their
personnel kidnapped in Beirut. They caught a couple of the same group and
chopped them up and sent the parts to the rest. With a statement that
there would be or 10x for every hostage killed. We screwed up kicking
over the bees nest in Iraq, so now we have to deal with the bees. Maybe
we should remember what the job of the military is. To kill people. Kill
a lot more of the bad guys, and wipe out any town or neighborhood helping
them. Would be calmed down very soon.


Yeah. Destroying towns. That would help.

Here's my crazy idea. Every member of congress must the book below, and
someone must read it to President Rove. (Bush can listen, but it would be
pointless). If they still think we belong in Iraq, we have them
involuntarily institutionalized.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...93329681&itm=2




What's incredible to me is that there are still about 24% of Americans
who "believe" in Bush and the horrors he has perpetrated on us, and that
Scooter Libby is going to prison instead of Dick Cheney.

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't
and
isn't an idiot.
But he was also a poor POTUS.
I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.
We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic
extremists, if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage
Crises. Showed the Middle East they could do what they want with no
consequences.

You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive.
What would you do about that?

Maybe we should take a lesson from the Russians when they had their
personnel kidnapped in Beirut. They caught a couple of the same group
and chopped them up and sent the parts to the rest. With a statement
that there would be or 10x for every hostage killed. We screwed up
kicking over the bees nest in Iraq, so now we have to deal with the
bees. Maybe we should remember what the job of the military is. To
kill people. Kill a lot more of the bad guys, and wipe out any town or
neighborhood helping them. Would be calmed down very soon.


Yeah. Destroying towns. That would help.

Here's my crazy idea. Every member of congress must the book below, and
someone must read it to President Rove. (Bush can listen, but it would be
pointless). If they still think we belong in Iraq, we have them
involuntarily institutionalized.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...93329681&itm=2


What's incredible to me is that there are still about 24% of Americans who
"believe" in Bush and the horrors he has perpetrated on us, and that
Scooter Libby is going to prison instead of Dick Cheney.


Read the book. It's a good one. I heard the author on one of the Sunday
morning news shows a few weeks back, and I was very impressed. He wasn't
bashing anyone - just offering interesting insights into the religious mess
in the Middle East. It's Northern Ireland all over again, but older.

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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:30:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Maybe we should
remember what the job of the military is. To kill people.

And break stuff.

Don't leave out the break stuff.

Forgot the make loud noises.

Calif Bill wrote:
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:30:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Maybe we should
remember what the job of the military is. To kill people.
And break stuff.

Don't leave out the break stuff.

Forgot the make loud noises.




Aren't we lucky that we already have an idiot as Commander in Chief,
else you might think of applying.

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news On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


The main difference between Bush and Carter is that Carter wasn't
and
isn't an idiot.

But he was also a poor POTUS.

I'll agree Carter's Presidency wasn't successful, but I also think
history will show him in a better light. I keep wondering what would
have happened if Reagan hadn't discarded Carter's initiative to be
energy
independent by 2000. Perhaps, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now.

We would probably not have as much problems with the Islamic
extremists, if Carter had done something about the Iranian Hostage
Crises. Showed the Middle East they could do what they want with no
consequences.


You mean, the way we're showing whomever our resolve in finding the
missing soldiers in Iraq? They're hostages, assuming they're alive. What
would you do about that?


Maybe we should take a lesson from the Russians when they had their
personnel kidnapped in Beirut. They caught a couple of the same group
and chopped them up and sent the parts to the rest. With a statement
that there would be or 10x for every hostage killed. We screwed up
kicking over the bees nest in Iraq, so now we have to deal with the bees.
Maybe we should remember what the job of the military is. To kill
people. Kill a lot more of the bad guys, and wipe out any town or
neighborhood helping them. Would be calmed down very soon.


Yeah. Destroying towns. That would help.



The middle east seems to understand raw power. Is how most of the countries
have been kept in line by their leaders over the years.