On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:

Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.

Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm

There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.

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On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:

Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.

Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have
both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm

There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also
recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.


It is not in my head, nor in my wife's head. Believe what you want.

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.
Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have
both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm
There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also
recommends
it. ;-)
Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.


It is not in my head, nor in my wife's head. Believe what you want.



Tom,
The mind does have the amazing ability to play a major factor in healing
the body. Some people fail to understand that that is a positive thing.

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On Feb 7, 4:44 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

...

I got about three minutes into it when my knees said, "F you,
Charlie!"
The rest of me felt pretty good. It's going to take me a while to
work
my
way into it. But I like the machine. It is very smooth and there's
enough
going on to maintain my attention.

If your knees can handle the treadmill, they should be able to handle
the
elliptical, but the motion is different and it takes some time to get
used
to. I found that little or minimal resistance settings are worse than
a
moderate amount. Too little and my coordination and timing gets
messed
up.

Little bit each day ...

I use a treadmill and I hate it - my knees hurt like hell.

Oddly, when I walk through the woods along the old
logging trail, I'm fine.

Go figure.

Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200
mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is designed to
lubricate the bone joints.

Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I hate to tell you this, but the improvement is mostly in your
head.

G&C has been proved not effectual in testing and actually
does nothing for your joints. The only way to improve
joint lubrication is to inject hyaluronic acid or a new
type of biological compound whose name escapes me
at the moment.

For minor arthritis, which is an inflamation, asprin or
other pain relief usually works better. For arthritis like
I have, the treatments get intensive and expensive.


Synvisc, made from Chicken Cockscombs. Expensive, but mine has lasted 6
years.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 2/8/2007 10:50 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.
Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have
both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm
There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also
recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.



I'd prefer to have my knees rubbed with gently heated extra-virgin olive
oil by three or four extra-carefully selected non-virgin masseuses. I'm
sure I'd feel much better after such treatment.

The guys might not like you either.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:53:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 2/8/2007 10:50 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.
Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm
There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.



I'd prefer to have my knees rubbed with gently heated extra-virgin olive
oil by three or four extra-carefully selected non-virgin masseuses.
I'm sure I'd feel much better after such treatment.

So many martyrs, so few virgins.

Good luck.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

"JLH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:53:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 2/8/2007 10:50 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.
Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have
both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use
the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm
There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also
recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.



I'd prefer to have my knees rubbed with gently heated extra-virgin olive
oil by three or four extra-carefully selected non-virgin masseuses.
I'm sure I'd feel much better after such treatment.

So many martyrs, so few virgins.

Good luck.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Who said they were female virgins? maybe martyrs that preceded the new one.

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:34:52 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JLH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:53:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 2/8/2007 10:50 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:59 am, "JimH" wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

. ..

JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.
Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have
both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use
the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm
There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also
recommends
it. ;-)

Not really. It's more likely the placebo effect.

Which, by the way, is a perfectly valid treatment if it works.

The mind is an odd organ - there is a mind-over-matter
component to it.

However, working against double-blind studies, it's a
50/50 proposition which basically means it's effective
if you believe it to be effective.

Nothing wrong with that.



I'd prefer to have my knees rubbed with gently heated extra-virgin olive
oil by three or four extra-carefully selected non-virgin masseuses.
I'm sure I'd feel much better after such treatment.

So many martyrs, so few virgins.

Good luck.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Who said they were female virgins? maybe martyrs that preceded the new one.


I said nothing about female virgins!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JimH wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Try adding a daily dose of Glucosamine HCL(1,500 mg) and Chondroitin
(!,200 mg) twice/day (2 tablets each time). This combination is
designed to lubricate the bone joints.

Both my wife and I have used this for the past 2 months and we have both
noticed an improvement in our joint pain and flexibility. We use the
Costco /Kirtland brand.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/glucos...cosamineoa.htm

There are hundreds of studies that say otherwise. My doctor also recommends
it. ;-)

How much money do you spend a month on G&C? Save the money for your
eventual knee replacements.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:15:36 -0500, JimH wrote:


It is not in my head, nor in my wife's head. Believe what you want

If taken early enough, before major damage is done, I'm convinced
glucosamine works. While studies on humans have shown conflicting
results, glucosamine therapy has been used on pets, with much success, for
years. I've yet to see any studies showing pets understanding a placebo
effect. ;-)