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"Dan" wrote in message
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Pathetic attempt at a joke.


Simple comment from a simple boy.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:38:30 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

And with the solar heater, I do run a
comfortable pool in the summer time.


My solars are holding the pool at about 26c/79f without a cover this
winter. I am swimming but my wife wants it about 4-5 degrees higher.
She just bought a 333kbtu propane heater that will give her the 4
degrees in about 2 hours. I think it is a waste of money but she is
buying the gas.

To cold here in the winter to heat the pool. Used to have a gas heater, and
the little 2 cubic foot needle looked like the front end of a Cessna when
the gas heater was on.

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my acountant, jsut installed a really nice underground pool with an
electric cover. really kind of delux.

I asked them about how much clorine it takes, and he told me that it
doesn't use clorine, it works on a water softening system, sort of like
Culligan.

From what I gather, it takes water softener pellets. supposed to not
have the clorine smell, supposedly more economical, and you can open
your eyes underwater, and you don't get the chemical sting.

Sounds good to me.

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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for
recognition and self esteem?

Why do you incite people, John?


Dan, he's got me killfiled.

Sure, but why the post?

Good question! It served no purpose.

Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's
posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at
the pool store sells.
I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that
10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end
up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool
sparkling.

I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my
water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH
Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about
10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact
thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old
bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the
amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that
information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain!

http://www.poolsolutions.com

and here is a forum of people who use his methods:
http://www.poolforum.com

If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program
called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in
gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you
the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for
adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation
or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile.
This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the
beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys
load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much
worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get!
Anyway, check these guys out!


Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite.
Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the
strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than
standard bleach.

You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you
buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have
stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand
goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are
getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from
them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They
are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell
you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same
thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your
stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine
levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just
to keep algae from forming.

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wrote:
Ft. Belvoir,On 9 Jan 2007 04:54:11 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


wrote:


10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at
the pool store sells.
I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that
10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end
up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool
sparkling.

I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my
water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH
Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about
10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact
thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old
bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the
amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that
information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain!

http://www.poolsolutions.com

and here is a forum of people who use his methods:
http://www.poolforum.com

If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program
called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in
gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you
the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for
adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation
or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile.
This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the
beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys
load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much
worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get!
Anyway, check these guys out!


Is that a liner pool?

Yes, and that's ANOTHER way the pool store people will hose you!
They'll INSIST that you need calcium in your pool. You only need
calcium if your pool is a cementitous pool, gunite, concrete, etc.
where calcium will leach from the concrete if the water doesn't have
any. A fiberglass or liner pool does NOT need calcium.


I used to put soda ash in my spa (glass) but my
gunite pool drifts to the high pH side. I am now swapping water
between them so it eliminated the high pH in the spa.
You are right on the baking soda. Sams/Costco will sell you a huge bag
for $8 or so. We can get 10% bleach at the pool store in bulk, bring
your own jug, for about a buck a gallon.

That's a good deal!

They will loan you a
chlorine jug for a $10 deposit but you can find them in garage sales
for a buck or less. It is just a swap out deal.
I would like to get an automatic bleach chlorinator but I am having
pretty good luck just dropping a couple pucks in a floater once a week
and shocking it every sunday.

But remember, those pucks have stabilizer in the form of cyuranic acid,
the higher the cya, the higher the chlorine levels need to be. I use
bleach only. I check it every other day when open, add bleach
accordingly.

That keeps my pool clear in Florida and
that isn't easy. I do have to whack it with another dose of bleach
when we get a lot of rain. Many years ago I ran a public pool in Md.
We had a bleach chlorinator and a truck came by about once a month and
filled up our tanks. That was a very easy pool to keep going.

Now the rage is salt water generators. Again, a lot of commercial pools
have gone the way of liquid chlorinators for just the reason I talked
about. If you use a chlorinating product that the pool store sells, and
it is solid, be it pucks or granuals, it will most likely have
stabilizer in it to prolong shelf life. The downside is that it then
raises the stabilizer level of your pool, thus needing more chlorine!
The only way to get rid of high CYA levels is to drain and refill.
I test with a very good commercial kit. I only shock when necessary,
when the chloramine level gets above 5 ppm. Then I shock with ordinary
bleach, too! Except when I happen to be at the store and I know I need
to shock soon, I'll go ahead and buy shock, but ONLY chlorine shock.

Don't even get me started on that Baquacil crap. Anybody who uses that
**** soon finds out that it's just awful, and then it's hard as hell to
change over to chlorine based!

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Tim wrote:
my acountant, jsut installed a really nice underground pool with an
electric cover. really kind of delux.

I asked them about how much clorine it takes, and he told me that it
doesn't use clorine, it works on a water softening system, sort of like
Culligan.

From what I gather, it takes water softener pellets. supposed to not
have the clorine smell, supposedly more economical, and you can open
your eyes underwater, and you don't get the chemical sting.

Sounds good to me.

They use a salt water generator.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 10 Jan 2007 07:40:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

WILL YOU JUST STOP THIS CRAP?

Honest to pete...

Honest to pete, indeed. Doesn't seem to bother you when it's YOU that's
doing just the exact same thing!

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wrote:
On 10 Jan 2007 07:53:20 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

But remember, those pucks have stabilizer in the form of cyuranic acid,
the higher the cya,


I keep an eye on the stabilizer level. You are right, when it gets too
high the amount of total chlorine necessary to get the free chlorine
up is excessive. We get so much rain here that the chemicals wash out
pretty fast. It is not unusual to get 12" of rain in a day or two in
the summer. In the winter I can cut back on my pucks to one a week or
less. I still whack it with the bleach once a week.

And if you get algae, and the pool store tries to sell you an
algaecide, all you need to do is keep your chlorine up to shock level
for a few days, and the algae will die! No more blonde hair turning
green because of copper from algaecide! If you look at the URL's I gave
you, there is a "best guess" table that shows the free chlorine and
shock levels for any given amount of CYA.

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Don White wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
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Pathetic attempt at a joke.



Simple comment from a simple boy.



From you, Don, that means nothing.

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