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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. |
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wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. Actually $23k this last year. There are different ways of replaster. Sand blast and a plaster coating or removal down to the Gunite and replastering. Hell, my tile work and coping is probably $2k. Get a life *asskisser |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. What is your house worth in Snellvile? What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. What is your house worth in Snellvile? What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? You can get above ground pools very cheaply, and you do see them in the cheaper neighborhoods and trailer parks. |
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JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:49:23 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. What wasn't clear? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Honestly? What's the "deal"? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:37:51 -0500, Dan
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:49:23 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. What wasn't clear? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Honestly? What's the "deal"? Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. Deal or no deal? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. Actually $23k this last year. There are different ways of replaster. Sand blast and a plaster coating or removal down to the Gunite and replastering. Hell, my tile work and coping is probably $2k. Get a life *asskisser Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Show us! Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. OH, so NOW all of a sudden the term "replaster" means doing plumbing and electrical work too??? Nice try. Once again, proved to the world you don't know what you're talking about, or are lying. What is your house worth in Snellvile? I don't live in Snellville. What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? Depends on size, shape, options, etc. My neighbor's inground concrete pool, with splash over spa, fiber optic lights, all of the bells and whistles, was around 15k. My rectangular was 12k. |
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