What did your boat dock..................
 

.........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

What did your boat dock..................
 

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:25:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/7/2007 5:14 PM, JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?


That's about the price, give or take, for a similar sized slip at the
local fisherman's marina. No pool or clubhouse, but a nice, smelly fish
cleaning station, general store, clean bathrooms, running water and
electric.

You cannot imagine what the fish cleaning station smells like in July
and August. Well, maybe you can! :)

Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for
recognition and self esteem?
--

John

What did your boat dock..................
 

JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

Free. I brought in the boat so late in the season they didn't have the
heart to charge... In principle a 2.5m wide marina slip is 170
eurobucks per season. (No that's not the same as boat dollars! ;)

Includes water and electricity. What's a drive up dock and a dock box?

No mechanics or pools of any kind but there is a clubhouse, it's not
fancy. This part of the marina is run by a volunteer organization - it
costs 35 bucks per year to be a member. The storage locker costs a bit
extra. Our part must be over 200 slips in the marina.

Risto

What did your boat dock..................
 

Varis wrote:
JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

Free. I brought in the boat so late in the season they didn't have the
heart to charge... In principle a 2.5m wide marina slip is 170
eurobucks per season. (No that's not the same as boat dollars! ;)

Includes water and electricity. What's a drive up dock and a dock box?

No mechanics or pools of any kind but there is a clubhouse, it's not
fancy. This part of the marina is run by a volunteer organization - it
costs 35 bucks per year to be a member. The storage locker costs a bit
extra. Our part must be over 200 slips in the marina.

Risto

What a deal you have.

To answer your questions:

A drive up dock is one that you can park your car directly in front of.

A dock box is a box at the dock to store stuff you don't want to carry
aboard during the season, such as water toys.

There is nothing fancy about our marina either. It is just a nice
place with a solid reputation, including their mechanics staff. Our
good friends are also docking there within walking distance.

I will not be using the pool but my wife will during those times when
the Lake is stirred up and I decide to tinker with the boat.

It is that time of year for us up north to start to think about warm
weather and boating. ;-)

What did your boat dock..................
 

I'm not really sure what West Access Marina charges anymore, but back
in the mid 80's it was high. at leas, I thought it was high. For my
old ChrisCraft '27 ft. Cavalier, the cost was about a hundred per month
on a 9 month lease. may seem like a bargian today, but int he mid 80's
it wasnt' the greatest, especially for what one got. no shore power,
no water , nust a floating dock to tie up to. Security wasn't the
finest either. It's changed a lot over the years though, with new
owners and re-doing a lot of stuff. There's no pool, because the park
has a public swim beach right next to the marina. Seeing I don't have
any big barges, I'll trailer mine to the lake, and pay the $3.00 (or
$30.00 unlimited for the yr.) launch fee at the ramp, which is insisted
by the Army Corps of Engineers. I may pay for membership in the Marina
boat club, though. I'll just see what they ahve to offer this year.



JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

What did your boat dock..................
 

Tim wrote:
I'm not really sure what West Access Marina charges anymore, but back
in the mid 80's it was high. at leas, I thought it was high. For my
old ChrisCraft '27 ft. Cavalier, the cost was about a hundred per month
on a 9 month lease. may seem like a bargian today, but int he mid 80's
it wasnt' the greatest, especially for what one got. no shore power,
no water , nust a floating dock to tie up to. Security wasn't the
finest either. It's changed a lot over the years though, with new
owners and re-doing a lot of stuff. There's no pool, because the park
has a public swim beach right next to the marina. Seeing I don't have
any big barges, I'll trailer mine to the lake, and pay the $3.00 (or
$30.00 unlimited for the yr.) launch fee at the ramp, which is insisted
by the Army Corps of Engineers. I may pay for membership in the Marina
boat club, though. I'll just see what they ahve to offer this year.




$100 in 1985 is $178 in 2005 dollars. In those terms that dock would
cost over $1,600 today.

What did your boat dock..................
 

JimH wrote:

$100 in 1985 is $178 in 2005 dollars. In those terms that dock would
cost over $1,600 today.

Yes, if not more.


Here's their website. it's sort of vague, but tells you a little bit
about the place.

http://www.westaccess.com/

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do you
prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Congratulations! I think this is the first semi-boating related topic
you've posted on in months.
Keep up the good work.

What did your boat dock..................
 

Some people over at Olney IL had a cottage on less than a half acre lot
for about 20 yrs. He and his wife sold the lot, got rid of his pontoon
boat and runabout, and moved into town. the main reason he told me was
because he got tired of paying about $400 per month in reality tax. to
them it sure took the fun and joy outof having lake property. PLUS!
he was sick of running the fisheren off his dock and fishing around his
boat. he showed me gouges where people would cast a line and snag his
interiour, then cut the line and leave the hook . They ahd a 16th
birthday party for his daughter on his nice dock, and people were boat
fishing were coming up to the dock and asking if they could use the can
in the house etc.



wrote:
On 7 Jan 2007 14:14:42 -0800, "JimH" wrote:

........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

Comparison to owner dock.
I paid $72.5k in 1984 for a house with a dock. I have spent about
$4000-$5000 since then on dock improvements and maintenance, (lift and
new pier added, all my labor). The extra taxes probably go about $300
a year this year over a similar house across the street without a
dock.
Granted that is probably $400-500k now, even in this market but I am
not selling
Considering they are selling "Dockaminiums" here for $300k plus a
hefty mounthly fee, buying a house with a diock is not out of line.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do you
prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Congratulations! I think this is the first semi-boating related topic
you've posted on in months.
Keep up the good work.


Don,
I am glad a post about suntan lotion and everyone's favorite SPF brings
you so much enjoyment.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Actually, I like vegetable oil with a little brown food coloring. The big
problem is the lack of brown food coloring. So, I've learned to mix a
little red and green coloring, then mix it with the cooking oil.

Mazola works well. Peanut oil leaves streaks. I think the SPF is higher for
peanut oil also. Olive oil works well if one likes a Mediterranean
complexion, which I don't.
--

John

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:52:18 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/7/2007 10:04 PM, Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do you
prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Congratulations! I think this is the first semi-boating related topic
you've posted on in months.
Keep up the good work.




Reggie has a sunlamp over his bathtub, where he floats his rubber ducky.
He thinks his ducky is a boat.

Harry, what were the big differences between the 36' Canadian boat and your
36' lobsta boat? I'm glad to see you posting about boats and not just
calling names!
--

John

What did your boat dock..................
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:25:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/7/2007 5:14 PM, JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?


That's about the price, give or take, for a similar sized slip at the
local fisherman's marina. No pool or clubhouse, but a nice, smelly fish
cleaning station, general store, clean bathrooms, running water and
electric.

You cannot imagine what the fish cleaning station smells like in July
and August. Well, maybe you can! :)

Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for
recognition and self esteem?
--

As usual!!

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Actually, I like vegetable oil with a little brown food coloring. The big
problem is the lack of brown food coloring. So, I've learned to mix a
little red and green coloring, then mix it with the cooking oil.

Mazola works well. Peanut oil leaves streaks. I think the SPF is higher for
peanut oil also. Olive oil works well if one likes a Mediterranean
complexion, which I don't.

I am not sure if the SPF is higher for peanut oil, but I know it has a
higher smoke temp. so you might be correct.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Actually, I like vegetable oil with a little brown food coloring. The big
problem is the lack of brown food coloring. So, I've learned to mix a
little red and green coloring, then mix it with the cooking oil.

Mazola works well. Peanut oil leaves streaks. I think the SPF is higher for
peanut oil also. Olive oil works well if one likes a Mediterranean
complexion, which I don't.

JohnH,
By the way, what size bottle of oil do you normally buy and what do you
pay? Do you notice a difference between brands? Do you ever use the
Safeway private label?

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....

SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.

What did your boat dock..................
 

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:25:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/7/2007 5:14 PM, JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?


That's about the price, give or take, for a similar sized slip at the
local fisherman's marina. No pool or clubhouse, but a nice, smelly fish
cleaning station, general store, clean bathrooms, running water and
electric.

You cannot imagine what the fish cleaning station smells like in July
and August. Well, maybe you can! :)

Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for
recognition and self esteem?
--

As usual!!

Ah! I see I remain the topic of John's posts, this time being made fun
of because I posted a boating question in a boating NG. Imaging that.

And I see that Reggie joined in with his attempt to hijack the thread
with a silly side topic.

I guess this thread shows the real purpose of our non boat owners here.
And to think they their stated goal was to better the tone of the NG.

My, my, my.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat?
do you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the
big bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....

SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.

ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:22:04 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?
Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....
SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on.

Uh huh. Sure.

Most of them prefer to rub oil on my chest and back, but I prefer a
SPF 15 lotion.

Uh huh. Sure.

It does not get the seats and gunwales all slick.

I'll bet.

Do I hear a hint of doubt in your tone?

What did your boat dock.............
 

Harry Krause wrote:
On 1/7/2007 10:04 PM, Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do you
prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Congratulations! I think this is the first semi-boating related topic
you've posted on in months.
Keep up the good work.




Reggie has a sunlamp over his bathtub, where he floats his rubber ducky.
He thinks his ducky is a boat.


And it looks like it fried his brain in the process.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:26:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat?
do you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the
big bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?
Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....
SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.
ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.

I don't go that far, but I wear a wide brimmed Brahma hat from
Australia. Tan with a green interior brim - keeps the sun glare down.

I would assume you mean this company:

http://www.barmahhats.com.au/roocollection.asp

Are you using a leather or canvas model? I have always steered (catch
the pun) clear of the leather due to the spray, falling overboard or
just swimming while wearing the hat.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...

SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.


I suggest your wife cut off access to those late night x-rated movies.
You're quickly losing whatever slim grip on reality you may have had.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.


First smart thing you said this year.
I have two Tilleys... one for boating and one for 'dress occasions'.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.


I suggest your wife cut off access to those late night x-rated movies.
You're quickly losing whatever slim grip on reality you may have had.



Don,
Why would I want to, even if it is an hallucination, it is my
hallucination and I like it. I have seen all of the ads in the boating
magazines and every boat owner has a svelte young girl hanging onto his
arm. Mine girls just happen to be dock wenches.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

Don White wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..

ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.


First smart thing you said this year.
I have two Tilleys... one for boating and one for 'dress occasions'.



I love the Tilley for sun protection, but to be honest, I have never
worn one for a "dress occasion". I do like the way Tilley's "insurance
program" allows you buy a 2nd hat at wholesale. I might have to take
them up on the offer.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

What did your boat dock..................
 

JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but
need a pool.

What did your boat dock..................
 

JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

Moved from open moorage (about $5k per year in a "public" marina) to
covered moorage at over $6k. My covered moorage is something of a
"deal", as the owner plans to leave the cover on and pass along the
cost of meeting the new fire codes. Will probably be $7k - $8k per year
at that point. It's possible to pay the same per month for open moorage
in this area if you don't shop carefully- and the moorage market
hereabouts is always a sellers market. Fixed or diminishing supply,
increasing demand.

A few years ago, our local marina owners' association hired an advisor
to speak at one of their meetings. His message: "Raise your moorage
rates constantly. Do not try to keep your rates down to where your
slips are always filled. Shoot for about a 20% vacancy rate.
When you are 20% vacant because of higher rates, your overall revenue
will be more than it was with all of the slips filled at a lower rate
and your expenses will be less because you are providing services to
fewer boats."

Truth is, they can raise the cost of moorage as much as they want to-
and for folks who want to own and enjoy a boat too large to haul out
onto a trailer and park in the driveway (consequently pizzing off the
neighbors) there are few alternatives.

What did your boat dock..................
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:37:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/8/2007 8:24 AM, JimH wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:25:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/7/2007 5:14 PM, JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

That's about the price, give or take, for a similar sized slip at the
local fisherman's marina. No pool or clubhouse, but a nice, smelly fish
cleaning station, general store, clean bathrooms, running water and
electric.

You cannot imagine what the fish cleaning station smells like in July
and August. Well, maybe you can! :)
Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for
recognition and self esteem?
--

As usual!!

Ah! I see I remain the topic of John's posts, this time being made fun
of because I posted a boating question in a boating NG. Imaging that.

And I see that Reggie joined in with his attempt to hijack the thread
with a silly side topic.

I guess this thread shows the real purpose of our non boat owners here.
And to think they their stated goal was to better the tone of the NG.

My, my, my.


Herring and Reggie only come here to be the a**holes their wives won't
let them be at home. Remember: neither of them have a boat. Herring gave
his away, and Reggie never had one.

Harry, even when you make absolute bull**** statements, I'm proud to be
mentioned. You are such a neat guy!

I'm sure Jimmy H is very proud of being your good friend!
--

John

What did your boat dock..................
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

Moved from open moorage (about $5k per year in a "public" marina) to
covered moorage at over $6k. My covered moorage is something of a
"deal", as the owner plans to leave the cover on and pass along the
cost of meeting the new fire codes. Will probably be $7k - $8k per year
at that point. It's possible to pay the same per month for open moorage
in this area if you don't shop carefully- and the moorage market
hereabouts is always a sellers market. Fixed or diminishing supply,
increasing demand.


It sounds like a deal, considering a 12 month moorage, the size of the
slip (based on what I know about your boat) and the fact that it is
covered.

Our contract is only from April 1 to November1.

Regarding Bassies comment about the pool......I agree to a point. When
boating conditions are right and the Lake temp is warm enough we prefer
to swim off the boat at our local swimming spots. However, there are
many times when bad seas keep us off the Lake. In those instances,
having a pool at the marina is a plus.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:55:31 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Actually, I like vegetable oil with a little brown food coloring. The big
problem is the lack of brown food coloring. So, I've learned to mix a
little red and green coloring, then mix it with the cooking oil.

Mazola works well. Peanut oil leaves streaks. I think the SPF is higher for
peanut oil also. Olive oil works well if one likes a Mediterranean
complexion, which I don't.

JohnH,
By the way, what size bottle of oil do you normally buy and what do you
pay? Do you notice a difference between brands? Do you ever use the
Safeway private label?

Mazola, by the gallon. I then pour it into smaller, designer-label bottles.
I keep waiting for someone to accuse me of flaunting my wealth and being a
show off. When that happens I'll tell them I've really got Mazola in the
bottle!

I've not used the Safeway brand. The price of their tomatoes is too high
for me to invest in their vegetable oil.
--

John

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:22:04 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat? do
you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the big
bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....

SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.

There are things to be said about slickness when discussing girls, oil
rubbing, seats and gunwales all at the same time.

But, since this is a family group, I won't go into it.
--

John

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:26:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat?
do you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the
big bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?

Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....

SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.

ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.

Do you enjoy the strangulation effect given by the neckstrap when you go on
plane?

Also, keep in mind that a few *very* bright people here are proclaiming you
to be boatless. So, these statements about 'getting underway' are taken
with a grain of salt (kosher sea salt, of course).
--

John

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:26:32 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:38:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

What kind of suntan lotion does everyone keep on board their boat?
do you prefer oil or lotion? How much do you normally use in a season?

I try to keep on of each on board, so I have one of each. I buy the
big bottle of generic lotion and one bottle will last the season.

What is everyone's else favorite?
Nothing.

That's right - you heard me, nothing. :)

I don't wear shorts or sandals and I wear light colored UV cloth long
sleeved shirts along with a wide brimmed hat - even on the hottest
days.

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....
SWF,
When you have a killer body like mine, all of the dock girls want you to
walk around without a shirt on. Most of them prefer to rub oil on my
chest and back, but I prefer a SPF 15 lotion. It does not get the seats
and gunwales all slick.
ps - I used to only use Baseball/Sailor Caps for head gear because they
were cheap and if they blew off, I had 5 more down below. But I have
since started using a wide brim Tilley Hat which protects the whole face
and back of the neck. The neck strap also holds the hat on when you are
underway.

Do you enjoy the strangulation effect given by the neckstrap when you go on
plane?

Also, keep in mind that a few *very* bright people here are proclaiming you
to be boatless. So, these statements about 'getting underway' are taken
with a grain of salt (kosher sea salt, of course).

The strap on the Tilley is much easier on my neck than the "Hat Grabber"
was on my baseball caps, the clip would attach to the back of the hat,
and the back of my shirt. When it would fall off my head it would fly
back and forth, and beat me within an inch of my life, before I slowed
down or it pulled loose and flew off the transom.

I have been around Usenet long enough to know some people do like to
fabricate stories, so if someone wants to believe I do not have a boat,
no picture or elaborate story or "eye witnesses" will change their mind.
I really don't post in rec.boats to boost my ego, so it is really no
big deal.

SPF 15, 30 or 45
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:07:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Buncha pansies - sun blocker - phffftt....

Have you been to a dermatologist lately? If not, it might be time.
Just sitting in the waiting room and watching the other patients come
and go can scare you off to the sun screen store in a hurry.

I use SPF 50. If you need sunscreen there's no sense fooling aroung
with the wimpy stuff. SPF 50 doesn't cost anymore, is just as easy to
apply, and it lasts longer.

What did your boat dock..................
 

wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 09:04:15 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Do not try to keep your rates down to where your
slips are always filled. Shoot for about a 20% vacancy rate.
When you are 20% vacant because of higher rates, your overall revenue
will be more than it was with all of the slips filled at a lower rate
and your expenses will be less because you are providing services to
fewer boats."

Truth is, they can raise the cost of moorage as much as they want to-
and for folks who want to own and enjoy a boat too large to haul out
onto a trailer and park in the driveway (consequently pizzing off the
neighbors) there are few alternatives.


That sounds like the free market at work. If your boat is really that
big, mooring is not your biggest expense. Our problem in SW Florida is
there is not enough dock space at any price. (using business logic) I
doubt we would ever have universal 20% vacancy. Most decent marinas
have a waiting list and a guy standing there with a multimillion
dollar check, wanting to buy him out. I said upthread a ways, they are
selling "dockaminium" space for $300.000 plus a monthly fee and that
is for a boat you could trailer.

Precisely. I don't have a problem with it on an intellectual basis, but
emotionally I hate to see the toll it takes on the folks who can
barely afford to be in boating to begin with. Aside from the "nothing
down and $15 a day" hype at the boat shows- the truth is that there are
a number of expensive hobbies out there, and boating can be one of
them. Bring big bucks, or choose a minimalist experience.

I doubt that we'll ever see 20% vacancies, in real life, in the Pacific
NW. What we will see is the folks of modest means being under
increasing financial pressure. But as a landlord I absolutely have to
understand. I don't set rents based on what I paid for a house back in
the 70's, they're set at what the market will bear. Can't expect the
marina owner to do any differently.

What did your boat dock..................
 

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:31:46 -0500, wrote:

On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:

I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but
need a pool.

That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle.

Isn't that the truth!

I saw a 5 or 6 year old jump from his dad's boat into the bay last summer
at a little boater's beach we frequent. He had his life vest on, and jumped
right into a few nettles. They got pushed up under the jacket and began
stinging the kid. The poor kid was screaming his head off until someone had
the sense to take his life jacket off. By then the kid was petrified of the
water and the vest. It was a damn shame. Hope he got over it.
--

John

What did your boat dock..................
 

JimH wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
JimH wrote:
........cost you this year? How big is your dock and what amenities
does your marina offer?

For us, $1,525. Drive up dock, 25 foot floater with water, electric
and dock box. The marina has 250 slips total, a pool, clubhouse and
top notch mechanics. The owners (3rd generation) live on site.

http://www.romps.com/

We moved to this marina because of our bad experiences with the dufus
*OMC Certified* mechanics at the marina we were at last year.

So how about you?

Moved from open moorage (about $5k per year in a "public" marina) to
covered moorage at over $6k. My covered moorage is something of a
"deal", as the owner plans to leave the cover on and pass along the
cost of meeting the new fire codes. Will probably be $7k - $8k per year
at that point. It's possible to pay the same per month for open moorage
in this area if you don't shop carefully- and the moorage market
hereabouts is always a sellers market. Fixed or diminishing supply,
increasing demand.


It sounds like a deal, considering a 12 month moorage, the size of the
slip (based on what I know about your boat) and the fact that it is
covered.

Our contract is only from April 1 to November1.

Regarding Bassies comment about the pool......I agree to a point. When
boating conditions are right and the Lake temp is warm enough we prefer
to swim off the boat at our local swimming spots. However, there are
many times when bad seas keep us off the Lake. In those instances,
having a pool at the marina is a plus.

If the weather is crappy enough to keep you off of the lake, then isn't
it usually crappy enough to keep you out of the pool??

What did your boat dock..................
 

wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 08:55:05 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:

I find it amazing that people won't get into their local waters, but
need a pool.

That's a guy who never saw a Chesapeake Bay sea nettle.

No, but I've seen many, many sea nettles. Also, owning a home pool,
I've read a lot about commercial pool water quality. At least the urine
and feces that makes it's way to a lot of waterways is treated first!