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"Dan" wrote in message ... Pathetic attempt at a joke. Simple comment from a simple boy. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:38:30 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: And with the solar heater, I do run a comfortable pool in the summer time. My solars are holding the pool at about 26c/79f without a cover this winter. I am swimming but my wife wants it about 4-5 degrees higher. She just bought a 333kbtu propane heater that will give her the 4 degrees in about 2 hours. I think it is a waste of money but she is buying the gas. To cold here in the winter to heat the pool. Used to have a gas heater, and the little 2 cubic foot needle looked like the front end of a Cessna when the gas heater was on. |
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my acountant, jsut installed a really nice underground pool with an electric cover. really kind of delux. I asked them about how much clorine it takes, and he told me that it doesn't use clorine, it works on a water softening system, sort of like Culligan. From what I gather, it takes water softener pellets. supposed to not have the clorine smell, supposedly more economical, and you can open your eyes underwater, and you don't get the chemical sting. Sounds good to me. |
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan
wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. |
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wrote: Ft. Belvoir,On 9 Jan 2007 04:54:11 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Is that a liner pool? Yes, and that's ANOTHER way the pool store people will hose you! They'll INSIST that you need calcium in your pool. You only need calcium if your pool is a cementitous pool, gunite, concrete, etc. where calcium will leach from the concrete if the water doesn't have any. A fiberglass or liner pool does NOT need calcium. I used to put soda ash in my spa (glass) but my gunite pool drifts to the high pH side. I am now swapping water between them so it eliminated the high pH in the spa. You are right on the baking soda. Sams/Costco will sell you a huge bag for $8 or so. We can get 10% bleach at the pool store in bulk, bring your own jug, for about a buck a gallon. That's a good deal! They will loan you a chlorine jug for a $10 deposit but you can find them in garage sales for a buck or less. It is just a swap out deal. I would like to get an automatic bleach chlorinator but I am having pretty good luck just dropping a couple pucks in a floater once a week and shocking it every sunday. But remember, those pucks have stabilizer in the form of cyuranic acid, the higher the cya, the higher the chlorine levels need to be. I use bleach only. I check it every other day when open, add bleach accordingly. That keeps my pool clear in Florida and that isn't easy. I do have to whack it with another dose of bleach when we get a lot of rain. Many years ago I ran a public pool in Md. We had a bleach chlorinator and a truck came by about once a month and filled up our tanks. That was a very easy pool to keep going. Now the rage is salt water generators. Again, a lot of commercial pools have gone the way of liquid chlorinators for just the reason I talked about. If you use a chlorinating product that the pool store sells, and it is solid, be it pucks or granuals, it will most likely have stabilizer in it to prolong shelf life. The downside is that it then raises the stabilizer level of your pool, thus needing more chlorine! The only way to get rid of high CYA levels is to drain and refill. I test with a very good commercial kit. I only shock when necessary, when the chloramine level gets above 5 ppm. Then I shock with ordinary bleach, too! Except when I happen to be at the store and I know I need to shock soon, I'll go ahead and buy shock, but ONLY chlorine shock. Don't even get me started on that Baquacil crap. Anybody who uses that **** soon finds out that it's just awful, and then it's hard as hell to change over to chlorine based! |
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Tim wrote: my acountant, jsut installed a really nice underground pool with an electric cover. really kind of delux. I asked them about how much clorine it takes, and he told me that it doesn't use clorine, it works on a water softening system, sort of like Culligan. From what I gather, it takes water softener pellets. supposed to not have the clorine smell, supposedly more economical, and you can open your eyes underwater, and you don't get the chemical sting. Sounds good to me. They use a salt water generator. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 10 Jan 2007 07:40:41 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: WILL YOU JUST STOP THIS CRAP? Honest to pete... Honest to pete, indeed. Doesn't seem to bother you when it's YOU that's doing just the exact same thing! |
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wrote: On 10 Jan 2007 07:53:20 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: But remember, those pucks have stabilizer in the form of cyuranic acid, the higher the cya, I keep an eye on the stabilizer level. You are right, when it gets too high the amount of total chlorine necessary to get the free chlorine up is excessive. We get so much rain here that the chemicals wash out pretty fast. It is not unusual to get 12" of rain in a day or two in the summer. In the winter I can cut back on my pucks to one a week or less. I still whack it with the bleach once a week. And if you get algae, and the pool store tries to sell you an algaecide, all you need to do is keep your chlorine up to shock level for a few days, and the algae will die! No more blonde hair turning green because of copper from algaecide! If you look at the URL's I gave you, there is a "best guess" table that shows the free chlorine and shock levels for any given amount of CYA. |
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Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message ... Pathetic attempt at a joke. Simple comment from a simple boy. From you, Don, that means nothing. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. |
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:50:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:39:35 -0500, JohnH wrote: Deal or no deal? What is the Banker offering? Something much less than the expectation! -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:49:23 -0500, Dan
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. What wasn't clear? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. |
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wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. Actually $23k this last year. There are different ways of replaster. Sand blast and a plaster coating or removal down to the Gunite and replastering. Hell, my tile work and coping is probably $2k. Get a life *asskisser |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. What is your house worth in Snellvile? What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. What is your house worth in Snellvile? What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? You can get above ground pools very cheaply, and you do see them in the cheaper neighborhoods and trailer parks. |
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JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:49:23 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. What wasn't clear? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Honestly? What's the "deal"? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:37:51 -0500, Dan
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:49:23 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:33:18 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:05:46 -0500, Dan wrote: JohnH wrote: Is Jimmy asking his silly questions again? What won't that boy do for recognition and self esteem? Why do you incite people, John? Dan, he's got me killfiled. Sure, but why the post? Good question! It served no purpose. Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Does JimH attack and libel you? Oh! Where have you been? Deal or no deal? Forget who attacks or doesn't. Just take the deal. Can you do it? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Please try again - in English. What wasn't clear? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H Honestly? What's the "deal"? Let's make a deal: I'll stop responding or commenting on any of JimH's posts, and you do the same for basskisser's posts. Deal or no deal? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a super day! ***** ****************************************** John H |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: 10-4 on that Bass. Keep it simple and don't buy everything the kid at the pool store sells. I use enough tri-chlor to maintain a reasonable stabylizer level (that 10-20 you spealk of) and bleach to maintain the chlorine level. I end up with a shot of acid now and then to hold the pH. That keeps my pool sparkling. I hear tell of people having to use acid to hold pH. Here in GA, my water is just the opposite, you need to raise pH. Instead of using pH Up, use 20 mule team borax, right out of the grocery store for about 10% of the price!. Raise alkalinity with baking soda, the same exact thing the pool store sells you for three times as much. I use plain old bleach to both keep my chlorine level up to the range specified by the amount of stabilizer, and to shock. Here is a website that has that information, you'll like it, this guy is a pool brain! http://www.poolsolutions.com and here is a forum of people who use his methods: http://www.poolforum.com If you go in the forums, someone has even written a small program called bleach calc, you just plug in the capacity of your pool in gallons, if you are using 5% or 6% (ultra) bleach, and it will tell you the amount of bleach to add to get to x ppm. It also has calcs for adjusting pH, Alk, and stabilizer. I only use pucks if I go on vacation or something, so I have to add stabilizer once in awhile. This guy also debunks a lot of pool store myths. I laugh at the beginning of the season when I go to the pool store to watch those guys load everybody up with a couple hundred bucks worth of pretty much worthless crap, and I get to smallest package of pucks I can get! Anyway, check these guys out! Swimming pool chlorine and household bleach are both Sodium Hypochlorite. Just calculate which is cheaper to buy. The pool chlorine is 2-3 times the strength of normal bleach. And Ultra Clorox is about 1/3 stronger than standard bleach. You can't understand a damned thing, can you, Bill? Most chlorine you buy for swimming pools is either Tri-chlor or Di-chlor and have stabilizer added. You keep adding stabilizer, and the chlorine demand goes up. It's a catch 22. Those who listen to the pool store people are getting duped. You go the pool store and by your Alkalinity Up from them at five times the cost of baking soda bought at the store. They are the EXACT same thing. Then go to the pool store and let them sell you PH UP, and five times the price of Borax, which is the EXACT same thing. Then let them sell you tri-chlor pucks that raise your stabilizer levels to the point where you have to keep your chlorine levels so high that everything bleaches out in a matter of minutes just to keep algae from forming. Buy liquid chlorine from the pool supply store and it is Sodium Hypochlorite. f'n idiot. Said nothing about the pucks. Which I use and buy from Costco and seems to work well on a gunite pool. So you get the water tested yearly and dump some water of the stabilizer gets to high. For the liquid, you go to the pool store and buy the liquid which is Sodium Hypochlorite. Damn, those pool store people must LOVE you! You only test your water once a year, and just keep adding chlorine? And it isn't just the pucks, dumb ass. Granular has stabilizer in the form of CYA in it, also. So you buy your bleach at the pool store and pay about four times per PPM as you would if you use bleach, and that makes you brilliant?? I suppose you also let them sell you baking soda (Alkalinity UP) for $1.50 a pound when you can get it in the grocery store for $0.25 a pound? How about PH UP? Do you let the pool store sell that to you at 5 times the cost of Borax from the grocery? Do you let them talk you into algaecides at $30 or so a pop? You get dumber every post. I never have to add soda ash. I'm dumb? Where to hell did I say you had to add soda ash? I have a gunite pool. So acid gets added. How? I test the chlorine /ph levels lots of times. But I take a sample to the pool store and get it tested for everything at least once a year. I shock with liquid, and chlorinate with pucks. Works for me you dumbass. Dumbass? Which statement about those pucks makes you think that? Do you think that pucks don't add CYA to your pool? OR do you not believe that the higher the CYA the higher the chlorine level must be to maintain sanitary water? Using pucks is very handy when we travel for extended periods during the summer and the people next door can use the pool and add some pucks to the floater. My pool looks really fine all the time. I also use a Polaris to keep it clean. You make the wife vacuum the leaves? No. I have a Polaris also, but very seldom use it. So, what is the ppm of your CYA, and chlorine? What is your pH and ALK? Speaking of dumbass, you just keep giving your money to the pool store. Let them talk you into algaecides, clarifiers, etc!! Then, go he http://www.poolsolutions.com and find out how the real pros do it. Dumbass? I have a pool that costs $50k to replace, or $25k to replaster and I am going to worry about $100 a year in difference in costs? My way works fine. Add acid via a bottle of pool muriatic acid. Get 4 gallons for about $9. Last me 6 months. What does ACID have to do with anything?? The point (that you can't grasp, imagine that!) is this: When you add CYA, your chlorine demand goes up. Do this long enough, and you'll be fighting algae, cruddy water, and risking the health of swimmers because you'll be adding the same amount of chlorine, but the demand is higher because the CYA is higher. Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. Again, the $100 difference you speak of isn't the point. Actually $23k this last year. There are different ways of replaster. Sand blast and a plaster coating or removal down to the Gunite and replastering. Hell, my tile work and coping is probably $2k. Get a life *asskisser Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ps.com... wrote: On 12 Jan 2007 11:57:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Get it NOW? $50k pool, huh? Bull****! An olympic size pool isn't $50k!! My in-laws just replastered there pool..... $7k. My wife's company charges $60,000 for a pool that you can barely turn you ass around in. (20x15 or so) That is attached to a $500,000 house. It does include the screen cage. I paid $4500 to plaster (Florida Gem) my 15x30 pool and that was straight to the guy doing the work, contractor's price. (3 years ago) First, Bill has stated here before that his pool was built either in the 60's or 70's. Here is a 20x40 for 35k: http://www.poolandspa.com/page3007.htm I'll bet Bill's isn't that big, the back yards in CA aren't big enough to put it in with property line setbacks. And your $35k pool is not a gunite pool and not in California. My pool is 32x16 kidney shaped pool. And I have a rather nice sized backyard. Show us! Actual plasterer cost is $2400, then you have the removal of old plaster cost, some remodel costs, to run different return lines, some replacement of old copper in ground pipe, some new electrical lines. A thousand here, a thousand there, and pretty soon you are talking real money. OH, so NOW all of a sudden the term "replaster" means doing plumbing and electrical work too??? Nice try. Once again, proved to the world you don't know what you're talking about, or are lying. What is your house worth in Snellvile? I don't live in Snellville. What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? Depends on size, shape, options, etc. My neighbor's inground concrete pool, with splash over spa, fiber optic lights, all of the bells and whistles, was around 15k. My rectangular was 12k. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. You proved only that you do not know what a pool costs. |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:50:50 -0500, Reginald P. Smithers III penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: You can get above ground pools very cheaply, and you do see them in the cheaper neighborhoods and trailer parks. Other places, too... And the quality above ground pools are a good idea, too.... it doesn't lower the resale of your property and isn't a big insurance issue.... not to mention zoning and taxes..... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Also, may make the house more saleable. Having a pool eliminates about 50% of the buyers. |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:58:27 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: On 1/13/2007 3:04 PM, Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. You proved only that you do not know what a pool costs. If I were considering a house with a pool, I'd want to know what it would cost to have it filled with garden soil and turned into a planter. Amen. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... On 1/13/2007 3:04 PM, Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. You proved only that you do not know what a pool costs. If I were considering a house with a pool, I'd want to know what it would cost to have it filled with garden soil and turned into a planter. Years ago a neighbor did that. F'n idiot. Adopted 13 Ethiopian kids and instead of just hiring a swimming instructor, filled in the pool. Physicist! |
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Calif Bill wrote: What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? pretty cheap, iwould imagine http://content.collegehumor.com/item...3.451xAUTO.jpg |
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here's another
http://www.monkeybriefs.com/uploads/...mming-pool.JPG Don't forget the whirlpool http://voluntaryredneck.mu.nu/archiv...j2sz-thumb.jpg king size http://www.dobhran.com/images/redneckswimpool3.jpg Tim wrote: Calif Bill wrote: What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? pretty cheap, iwould imagine http://content.collegehumor.com/item...3.451xAUTO.jpg |
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Tim wrote: Calif Bill wrote: What does a vinyl pool cost in Atlanta? pretty cheap, iwould imagine http://content.collegehumor.com/item...3.451xAUTO.jpg lets try that one again.... http://media.collegehumor.com/ch6/f/...a6d1e1902e.jpg |
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Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. You proved only that you do not know what a pool costs. I sure DO, I own one, my neighbor just had one installed, and my in-laws in Pleasant Hill had one installed. Would you like me to put you in touch with them so you won't get hosed more and more? |
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basskisser wrote: I sure DO, I own one, my neighbor just had one installed, and my in-laws in Pleasant Hill had one installed. Would you like me to put you in touch with them so you won't get hosed more and more? We'll never know.... ?: |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Just like clock work! Every time I prove you don't know what you're talking about, you start that childish name calling. You've failed miserably to answer my above questions, once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. You proved only that you do not know what a pool costs. I sure DO, I own one, my neighbor just had one installed, and my in-laws in Pleasant Hill had one installed. Would you like me to put you in touch with them so you won't get hosed more and more? Sure. You can email me with their names and numbers and I will talk to them. ospam. (remove nospam) |
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