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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On 16 Jan 2007 04:38:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Is that the stuff that weighs two tons as you tried to tell everyone
here a year or so ago? Remember? Then when I called you out on it, you
said that was with the water added?? Remember that? Remember when I
proved to you that a yard of concrete WITH water was only approx. a ton
and a half?

Where are you getting that. Gravel mix concrete is 150# per square
foot according to everything I have heard. That is a tad over 4000#
per yard.
Maybe there is some air entrained concrete with a lighter aggregate
that gets that light and something like Y-Tong will actually float.
If you order the normal "3000# gravel pump mix" it will be about 2
tons a yard. The 3000# refers to the compressive strengh, not the
weight.

You are correct, but it is useless discussing facts with someone who has
no desire to hear the truth. As you and Bill mentioned a cubic yard
would weigh about 4050 lbs. My guess is he mixed up concrete with
Portland cement which would weight approximately 2500 lbs per cubic
yard. I am sure it is very easy for a structural engineer to confuse
Concrete with Portland Cement.

Nope, dead wrong. I have several mix design sheets that will show you
very wrong. 2500 pounds of Portland cement per yard???????
You ARE kidding, right?!!!!! Try around 450 for a #4000 psi mix design,
and say, less than 400 for a #3000 psi design! Are you REALLY saying
that a yard of concrete weighs better than 2 tons? Care to have me cut
and paste some design mixes for you?

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I challange you to accept personal responsibility to be an on topic
poster here and not a liability to the newsgroup.


John...do you ever think for yourself rather than parrot someone else's
lines?

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basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On 16 Jan 2007 04:38:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Is that the stuff that weighs two tons as you tried to tell everyone
here a year or so ago? Remember? Then when I called you out on it, you
said that was with the water added?? Remember that? Remember when I
proved to you that a yard of concrete WITH water was only approx. a ton
and a half?
Where are you getting that. Gravel mix concrete is 150# per square
foot according to everything I have heard. That is a tad over 4000#
per yard.
Maybe there is some air entrained concrete with a lighter aggregate
that gets that light and something like Y-Tong will actually float.
If you order the normal "3000# gravel pump mix" it will be about 2
tons a yard. The 3000# refers to the compressive strengh, not the
weight.
You are correct, but it is useless discussing facts with someone who has
no desire to hear the truth. As you and Bill mentioned a cubic yard
would weigh about 4050 lbs. My guess is he mixed up concrete with
Portland cement which would weight approximately 2500 lbs per cubic
yard. I am sure it is very easy for a structural engineer to confuse
Concrete with Portland Cement.

Nope, dead wrong. I have several mix design sheets that will show you
very wrong. 2500 pounds of Portland cement per yard???????
You ARE kidding, right?!!!!! Try around 450 for a #4000 psi mix design,
and say, less than 400 for a #3000 psi design! Are you REALLY saying
that a yard of concrete weighs better than 2 tons? Care to have me cut
and paste some design mixes for you?


http://www.petermanconcrete.com/faq.shtml

What did your boat dock..................
 

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:09:00 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

I challange you to accept personal responsibility to be an on topic
poster here and not a liability to the newsgroup.


John...do you ever think for yourself rather than parrot someone else's
lines?


Hit home, huh?
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John H

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:09:00 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..

I challange you to accept personal responsibility to be an on topic
poster here and not a liability to the newsgroup.


John...do you ever think for yourself rather than parrot someone else's
lines?


Hit home, huh?
--
******************************************
***** Have a super day! *****
******************************************

John H

Of course... it's my line you've plagiarized.

What did your boat dock..................
 

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:43:08 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:09:00 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I challange you to accept personal responsibility to be an on topic
poster here and not a liability to the newsgroup.


John...do you ever think for yourself rather than parrot someone else's
lines?


Hit home, huh?
--
******************************************
***** Have a super day! *****
******************************************

John H

Of course... it's my line you've plagiarized.


For sure it's not mine. I try to be careful with my spelling. It was a good
line, you should try to practice what you preach.
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******************************************
***** Have a super day! *****
******************************************

John H

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Is that the stuff that weighs two tons as you tried to tell everyone
here a year or so ago? Remember? Then when I called you out on it, you
said that was with the water added?? Remember that? Remember when I
proved to you that a yard of concrete WITH water was only approx. a ton
and a half?
Do you want me to put you in touch with my in-laws so that you can get
your pool done without getting screwed?

Concrete here is less than $90 right now.


Cali Bill's pool is more likely one of those Dolfino vinyl mushroom above
ground types.


Yup, it is a $50k replacement vinyl pool just like *asskissers. I happen to
live in an upscale area, not like you and *asskisser.

A little info on my community.
http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...leasanton.html

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"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Is that the stuff that weighs two tons as you tried to tell everyone
here a year or so ago? Remember? Then when I called you out on it, you
said that was with the water added?? Remember that? Remember when I
proved to you that a yard of concrete WITH water was only approx. a ton
and a half?
Do you want me to put you in touch with my in-laws so that you can get
your pool done without getting screwed?

Concrete here is less than $90 right now.


Cali Bill's pool is more likely one of those Dolfino vinyl mushroom above
ground types.

Oh, no! He'll tell you that it's the best pool ever built anywhere in
the world! It's built with that special concrete that weighs two tons a
yard! Carbon fiber reinforcing, no doubt. Semi-precious stone course
aggregate, with fine aggregate being sand shipped from the Sahara just
for him, and water from Alaska's most pristine glacier runoff. The
cement (although he's claimed here in error that concrete IS cement) is
made from the best clinker in the world, and has been tested to ensure
the gypsum content is at 5% but not exceeding in order to obtain a
proper set time. Every chemical, and every piece of hardware is the
best money can buy, lest he be labeled a "cheap *******".


What does this have to do with boats?

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On 16 Jan 2007 04:38:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Is that the stuff that weighs two tons as you tried to tell everyone
here a year or so ago? Remember? Then when I called you out on it, you
said that was with the water added?? Remember that? Remember when I
proved to you that a yard of concrete WITH water was only approx. a
ton
and a half?
Where are you getting that. Gravel mix concrete is 150# per square
foot according to everything I have heard. That is a tad over 4000#
per yard.
Maybe there is some air entrained concrete with a lighter aggregate
that gets that light and something like Y-Tong will actually float.
If you order the normal "3000# gravel pump mix" it will be about 2
tons a yard. The 3000# refers to the compressive strengh, not the
weight.
You are correct, but it is useless discussing facts with someone who has
no desire to hear the truth. As you and Bill mentioned a cubic yard
would weigh about 4050 lbs. My guess is he mixed up concrete with
Portland cement which would weight approximately 2500 lbs per cubic
yard. I am sure it is very easy for a structural engineer to confuse
Concrete with Portland Cement.

Nope, dead wrong. I have several mix design sheets that will show you
very wrong. 2500 pounds of Portland cement per yard???????
You ARE kidding, right?!!!!! Try around 450 for a #4000 psi mix design,
and say, less than 400 for a #3000 psi design! Are you REALLY saying
that a yard of concrete weighs better than 2 tons? Care to have me cut
and paste some design mixes for you?


http://www.petermanconcrete.com/faq.shtml


And you are a PE *asskisser?

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:46:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:

Are you REALLY saying
that a yard of concrete weighs better than 2 tons? Care to have me cut
and paste some design mixes for you?


http://www.petermanconcrete.com/faq.shtml

Quoted from the website Reggie gave us.

"Q. How much does a yard of concrete weigh?"

"A. Approximately 4000 lbs. per cubic yard."

From other websites:

"Size & Weight
The mixer empty weight is 2,900 lbs. It is 15' 6" long depending on
hitch size, 7' 5" wide including guards and 8' 4" high in load
configuration. The mixer holds 2.75 yards stationary and 2.0 yards on
the road. A yard weighs approximately 4,200 lbs. so road weight is
approximately 11,500 lbs loaded."
http://www.con-crete.com/2-yd-mixer.htm

How much does a concrete truck weigh?
If a truck is carrying 10 cubic yards, then the weight of the concrete
is approximately 40,000 lb. The truck will weigh approximately 26,000
lb. for a total of 66,000 lb.
http://www.tx-taca.org/concretefaq.htm#How_much_does

"The Revolution composite drum by Dodge Center, Minn.-based McNeilus
Truck & Mfg. is 2000 pounds lighter than traditional steel drums. This
means a ready-mix truck can carry an extra one-half cubic yard of
concrete per load. Then, after the concrete is poured, the lighter
weight results in annual fuel savings of $400 to $700 per truck, says
McNeilus."
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...3/ai_n14712121

Maybe you *should* post links to verifiable sites backing up your
assertion that shows concrete to be 3000lbs per yard. It seems no one
else agrees with you.