Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
NO FREAKIN' WAY!!!!

That is one god ugly boat. They look nice in photos, but up close and
personal, uu guh lee...


That's funny. The Nordic Tug 37 is not a bad looking boat.



.... So far, the Hinckley
has it all over the other boats I've viewed ten times over.

It only cost money, that's all.

DSK

Are you sure you know what you want? You are comparing a Viking and a
Hatteras to a Nordic tug????

Viking and Hatteras along with Ocean and Bertram are short distance fast
boats made to eat a 6' chop to fight fish.... A nordic tug (like a
Nordhaven etc) are long distance cruisers with totally different
characteristics.


I own a 48' Ocean which is a great short distance boat for the
fish/cruise/dive crowd that doesn't mind paying $5-7/NM. If you slow
them down to displacement speed you can get there for $3/NM but they
don't take seas great at that speed and you are paying 3x for the power
to go 25kts ++

Once my kids go off to College I will probably downsize and "up sea" to
a 40 Nordhaven and not worry about the time it takes to get somewhere
and not worry if I hit 10'++ seas


You are covering a WIDE range of capabilities.







Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:59:15 -0500, DSK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

NO FREAKIN' WAY!!!!

That is one god ugly boat. They look nice in photos, but up close and
personal, uu guh lee...

That's funny. The Nordic Tug 37 is not a bad looking boat.


I didn't care for it at all - not in the least.


.... So far, the Hinckley
has it all over the other boats I've viewed ten times over.

It only cost money, that's all.


Too true.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:27:42 -0500, Ed wrote:

I own a 48' Ocean which is a great short distance boat for the
fish/cruise/dive crowd that doesn't mind paying $5-7/NM. If you slow
them down to displacement speed you can get there for $3/NM but they
don't take seas great at that speed and you are paying 3x for the power
to go 25kts ++

My wife really wanted a sport fish because she likes the way they
look. We previously owned a Bertram 33 and looked at a bunch of
Berts and Hatts in the 50 to 53 foot size range. It soon became clear
however that none of them had half the living space of our Grand Banks
49, and the sport fish did not have the fuel capacity for long range
cruising.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:27:42 -0500, Ed wrote:

Are you sure you know what you want? You are comparing a Viking and a
Hatteras to a Nordic tug????

You're new to the discussion, so let me fill you in.

I sold my 32' Contender Fisharound as my other half didn't like it all
that much. We had the pleasure of joining Wayne B and his wife aboard
Wayne's Grand Banks 49 last year and SWMBO liked it very much.

So, this is an exploration more of what I'm comfortable with more than
what I'm actually going to purchase in a boat with more of the
comfortable amenities for SWMBO.

Thus, I'm looking at a bunch of different styles from displacement
hulls to planing hulls.

Additionally, I'm not comfortable with the whole inboard thing being
more of an outboard type guy - personal preference. I'm also a bit of
a speed freak, but I've giving displacement it's due in the search.

Tom,

Why don't you and Mrs. Wave take a ride up sometime and take a look at the
Navigator.
Not to buy ... just to see another type of boat style. In some ways it's
sorta between a GB and a Sportsfish in terms of purpose of design. It also
has lotsa room. Might give you some other ideas.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:45:41 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



I'm not against displacement hulls (although the slow boat to China
approach just grates against my psyche) - I'm probably going to have
to adjust my thinking on the subject.

You can get a GB or GB type boat with twins that will cruise at nearly 20
knots.
From what I've read about the GB hull ... and contrary to popular belief ...
it *is* a planing hull ... but has the advantage of a full keel.

Mrs.E's. GB certainly won't plane, but it's a totally different type of
cruising, and surprisingly enjoyable and relaxing. I calculated that I
could almost make it from Cape Cod to southern Florida on one tank of fuel.

The Navigator is a true planing hull, although I often cruised along at
10-12 knots. The nice thing about it is that on plane at it's cruising
speed of 19 kts, it only burns about 25-27 gals per hour which is not bad
for a 52 footer. A Viking, Hatteras or similar of that size and designed for
more speed will typically burn 50 gals or more per hour at cruise.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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It's really a question of adjusting my thinking on the whole subject.
This will be the last large/big boat I buy so I need to put some
thought into it.

That's what they all say.


I was spoiled by the performance of the Contender and the outboard set
up on that boat. I had speed up the wazoo when I wanted to run it
flat out, yet it was still efficient on fuel and at cruise, performed
extremely well.


You have to rethink your expectations. Could you comfortably live aboard
the Contender for two or three weeks at a time? Kick back on the couch and
watch a football game? Take a nooner in a comfortable, air conditioned
stateroom while Mrs. Wave prepares a full course meal in the galley?

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:34:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


You have to rethink your expectations. Could you comfortably live aboard
the Contender for two or three weeks at a time? Kick back on the couch
and
watch a football game? Take a nooner in a comfortable, air conditioned
stateroom while Mrs. Wave prepares a full course meal in the galley?

Good points all and that's exactly how I need to approach this.


Another issue that I know you have a handle on, but affects most of us here
in the Northeast is dockage for larger boats. At Kingman, where I am, there
are probably 10 times as many slips for 36' and under boats as there are for
boats over 36'. And often, it's not just the length that makes finding a
slip difficult ... it's the beam. In Scituate, the town slips technically
were restricted to boats of 30' or less, but they made exceptions for some
that were bigger as long as the beam was 10' or less. When you start
getting into 15+ foot beams, the availability of slips in this part of the
country starts drying up fast.

Down south, however, a 15' beam boat is a peanut.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:34:33 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


You have to rethink your expectations. Could you comfortably live aboard
the Contender for two or three weeks at a time? Kick back on the couch
and
watch a football game? Take a nooner in a comfortable, air conditioned
stateroom while Mrs. Wave prepares a full course meal in the galley?

Good points all and that's exactly how I need to approach this.


Another issue that I know you have a handle on, but affects most of us
here in the Northeast is dockage for larger boats. At Kingman, where I
am, there are probably 10 times as many slips for 36' and under boats as
there are for boats over 36'. And often, it's not just the length that
makes finding a slip difficult ... it's the beam. In Scituate, the town
slips technically were restricted to boats of 30' or less, but they made
exceptions for some that were bigger as long as the beam was 10' or less.
When you start getting into 15+ foot beams, the availability of slips in
this part of the country starts drying up fast.

Down south, however, a 15' beam boat is a peanut.

Eisboch

A packing peanut ?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm not against displacement hulls (although the slow boat to China
approach just grates against my psyche) - I'm probably going to have
to adjust my thinking on the subject.

What's wrong with relaxing a little? Take time to enjoy the
scenery. Pretend you're sailing.

DSK

Have you looked at Riviera?

Solidly built sportfishermen with a lot of creature comforts.