On Mon, 08 May 2006 23:05:46 -0400, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

What did you sacrifice for your stateside service, Bertie? Your
virginity?


Doubtful.... heard his S/O complain that he was still holding on for the
'right time'.

Like clock work Don.

I'm thinking Donnie is a coward, a "ran from America" "cry-baby". He
seems the type.

On Tue, 09 May 2006 02:35:22 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:


How will you tell? Your toaster is far faster than you.



Ahhh, the other member of the Conservative Slowski Family checks in to
deliver his daily barb.


I thought it was the third member of the 'Three Stooges'.

You and harry are fixated on "members", aren't you? Maybe there's a
support group in your area. Search on "dickheads anonymous".

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

What did you sacrifice for your stateside service, Bertie? Your
virginity?


Doubtful.... heard his S/O complain that he was still holding on for
the
'right time'.

Like clock work Don.

It is so easy to make them dance

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Great! The suits who invented the domino theory knew by the late
1960s that it was nonsense, and that's what the entire war was based
on. All presidents are the target of various so-called scholars and
shmexperts. Many of us figured out early on that the North
Vietnamese were not going to burn their way through the south and
invade Australia next. Do you remember this nonsense?



Doug, you are chanting a typical shallow and simplistic post mortem of
a very complex set of circumstances, alliances, and political
commitments that took place over many years, mired also in corruption.
In the end it came down to justifying the continuance of policies that
weren't working or were no longer purposeful.
If you simply believe it was all based on the "domino" theory, then it
was you that was duped.

RCE


Like the other two personal wars, it was based on weak presidents who
succumbed to bad advice, thus demonstrating their complete inability to
manage and think for themselves.


So, as it relates to Vietnam, your list of weak Presidents must include:

Harry S Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kenney
Lyndon Johnson
Richard M. Nixon
Gerald Ford

and, then, to make everything "ok"

Jimmy Carter.

RCE


Grow up.


Good grief.

RCE

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 20:36:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

As far as "a call to arms", that's
too general a statement. Psychiatrists have numerous terms for those who
are
OK with killing people for no good reason. Psychopath is one of them.

Sometimes Doug you take it too far.

If you don't understand the reasoning, then just admit it and shut the
**** up.


The reasoning, Tom, is that it's your duty to serve, even if the war is
clearly a hideous mistake. No questions - just show up and serve. Is that
what you don't think I understand?

"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Great! The suits who invented the domino theory knew by the late
1960s that it was nonsense, and that's what the entire war was
based on. All presidents are the target of various so-called
scholars and shmexperts. Many of us figured out early on that the
North Vietnamese were not going to burn their way through the south
and invade Australia next. Do you remember this nonsense?



Doug, you are chanting a typical shallow and simplistic post mortem of
a very complex set of circumstances, alliances, and political
commitments that took place over many years, mired also in corruption.
In the end it came down to justifying the continuance of policies that
weren't working or were no longer purposeful.
If you simply believe it was all based on the "domino" theory, then it
was you that was duped.

RCE


Like the other two personal wars, it was based on weak presidents who
succumbed to bad advice, thus demonstrating their complete inability to
manage and think for themselves.


So, as it relates to Vietnam, your list of weak Presidents must include:

Harry S Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kenney
Lyndon Johnson
Richard M. Nixon
Gerald Ford

and, then, to make everything "ok"

Jimmy Carter.

RCE


Grow up.


Good grief.

RCE


Bert is attempting to say that because Truman authorized the OSS to poke
around SE Asia as "advisors" after WWII, he's in the same category as
Johnson, who clearly made the largest committment to the Vietnam mistake.
He's saying pretty much the same thing for Eisenhower & Kennedy.

On Mon, 08 May 2006 20:56:15 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ers040908.html

I have a question for you. Is it possible that today, you might
know something I don't, and that a year from now, I might also know
the same thing?

Yes

Great! The suits who invented the domino theory knew by the late
1960s that it was nonsense, and that's what the entire war was based
on. All presidents are the target of various so-called scholars and
shmexperts. Many of us figured out early on that the North Vietnamese
were not going to burn their way through the south and invade
Australia next. Do you remember this nonsense?
You are intellectually dishonest.
It appears you ran out of steam without being able to explain that
statement.
I mad the assumption that you are an educated man and you would
understand. However, you have proved to be just an arrogant and
argumentative prick again!


You still haven't explained what you mean. My qualities bear no
relationship to your inability to explain yourself. I've stated facts
which history has proven out. If you dispute them, back up your
statements.
I don't have to explain what I mean, it is clear to those that do not have
clouded vision like you do.

History is not on your side. From the time Stalin consolidated his power
within the USSR the USSR was actively promoting communism all around the
world. Finally it took a man, one man, to stand up call the communists
what they actually were which put an end to spread of communism.



And who was that one man?



Bert probably thinks that Reagan single-handedly ended Communism. Those
are the kinds of thoughts one has, I've read, when one has a single-cell
brain.

Is the name-calling the best you can add to a discussion, Harry?

*Triple*??
--
'Til next time,

John H

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On Tue, 09 May 2006 02:20:20 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Great! The suits who invented the domino theory knew by the late
1960s that it was nonsense, and that's what the entire war was based
on. All presidents are the target of various so-called scholars and
shmexperts. Many of us figured out early on that the North Vietnamese
were not going to burn their way through the south and invade
Australia next. Do you remember this nonsense?



Doug, you are chanting a typical shallow and simplistic post mortem of a
very complex set of circumstances, alliances, and political commitments
that took place over many years, mired also in corruption. In the end
it came down to justifying the continuance of policies that weren't
working or were no longer purposeful.
If you simply believe it was all based on the "domino" theory, then it
was you that was duped.

RCE


Like the other two personal wars, it was based on weak presidents who
succumbed to bad advice, thus demonstrating their complete inability to
manage and think for themselves.


So, as it relates to Vietnam, your list of weak Presidents must include:

Harry S Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kenney
Lyndon Johnson
Richard M. Nixon
Gerald Ford

and, then, to make everything "ok"

Jimmy Carter.

RCE


Grow up.


Doug, today I'm going to make a meat loaf. I'll buy round steak, on sale
for $1.99 a pound, half of what good hamburger costs. Then I'll grind it
myself. I've wondered what it must be like to get ground up like hamburger.

From your reply, above, I surmise that you could tell us!


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'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 19:59:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

What branch of your military did you serve in?
I greased and stroked the big artillery guns...I polished my commanders
brass buttons so I could stay close to home and out of danger..
Hold on... that was someone else...not me!

Just as I thought. You think so little of what others sacrificed so that
you can live your easy life.


What did you sacrifice for your stateside service, Bertie? Your virginity?

Harry, you are in no position to question *anyone's* sacrifices!

*Triple*?
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'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

"JohnH" wrote in message
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Doug, today I'm going to make a meat loaf. I'll buy round steak, on sale
for $1.99 a pound, half of what good hamburger costs. Then I'll grind it
myself. I've wondered what it must be like to get ground up like
hamburger.

From your reply, above, I surmise that you could tell us!
John H

Just sit quietly, John. Try not to fall off the chair. Tomorrow, we'll cover
benches.