On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 03:29:26 GMT, "Joe" wrote:

I am one of the lucky few with electricity tonight. My daughter is
still stuck on a Metro train in NY, trying to get home to Albany.

I hope she returns home safely.
As of now, everything looks pretty calm throughout the City.
Wasn't the case in '77


***News Flash*** NBC just announced a report that lightning struck a
Niagara Mohawk powerplant, causing the cascade. What?????

Funny, the weather records don't show any storm activity near the plant.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/obhistory/KIAG.html

http://www.weathermatrix.net/2003/08...0308141800.gif


Thanks for your good wishes, Joe. My daughter is home, safe and
sound, about 12 hours behind schedule.

noah

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
. net...
Noah,
This is a perfect example of the kind of info you can expect to read in
any
NG, Gould, one of the more knowledgeable boaters in the NG, throws out a
theory that maybe the NE Blackout is the result of a terrorist attack. Is
this accurate, as of now it does not appear to be, but it is a great way
to
start a bull**** discussion that will soon evolve into a political
discussion.


It's as valid as President Nookular repeating the yet unproven theory that
lightning around the Niagara River caused the blackout. I have friends who
were fishing the river yesterday. No clouds.

Meanwhile: Anyone who's awake has seen news stories about how vulnerable our
infrastructure is because of computer security problems. It is entirely
possible that this blackout WAS caused by terrorists, but not the kinds who
use explosives or airliners. If this is the case, it is also possible that
it is still undetected.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:42:04 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

...snips....

I'm just waiting now for Sen Kennedy to call for guards at every
computer, electrical tower, dam, and river that exists in the USA.

Our mutual contempt for the Kennedys aside....

Would this not be the stated objective of the Office of Homeland
Defense?

It would be, but the tax cut has required the trimming of budgets for many
of the services promised by President Nookular Boy after 9/11.

but the National Weather Service said
the closest lightning strike in the area was hundreds of miles away,
in Maryland.

But....the president repeated that rumor. It must be true. The lightning was
purchased secretly on the international arms market. From Africa.


In the unlikely event that it *was* a terrorist attack, we'd be smart to blame
it on lightning. Take away the credit for the disaster, and the air is let out
of the terrorist balloon double quick.

You want to P off the terrorists? Make sure they stay out of the news.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
but the National Weather Service said
the closest lightning strike in the area was hundreds of miles away,
in Maryland.

But....the president repeated that rumor. It must be true. The lightning
was
purchased secretly on the international arms market. From Africa.


In the unlikely event that it *was* a terrorist attack, we'd be smart to
blame
it on lightning. Take away the credit for the disaster, and the air is let
out
of the terrorist balloon double quick.

You want to P off the terrorists? Make sure they stay out of the news.

That would be smart but it certainly wouldn't be the course this
administration would take. You can be certain if there was a whiff of
possibility this could've been attributable to human hands, the White House
would've used the opportunity to bolster poll numbers.

JohnH wrote:


I have seen no statement to the effect that the Office of Homeland Defense
desires to spend irresponsibly. In my opinion, the Democrats would do so if they
could.

Well, of course, John...your opinion on every matter is colored by your
personal right-wing extremism. Despite that, you seem a decent guy. But
you'd be so much better if you replaced your blinders with a bit of
sarvodaya and satyagraha, eh.




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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:07:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


I have seen no statement to the effect that the Office of Homeland Defense
desires to spend irresponsibly. In my opinion, the Democrats would do so if they
could.

Well, of course, John...your opinion on every matter is colored by your
personal right-wing extremism. Despite that, you seem a decent guy. But
you'd be so much better if you replaced your blinders with a bit of
sarvodaya and satyagraha, eh.

Harry,
My 'right-wing extremism,' as you describe what you perceive through the shaded
lens of liberalism, has been colored by the inanities I continue to hear spewing
from the mouths of some Democrats.

You questioned my name calling comment in a recent post. That comment was
prompted by:

"The Washington Times?
The Moonie Paper?

Hehehe.

Trash is as trash reads/"

Seems like name-calling to me, but I could be wrong, again.

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:07:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


I have seen no statement to the effect that the Office of Homeland Defense
desires to spend irresponsibly. In my opinion, the Democrats would do so if they
could.

Well, of course, John...your opinion on every matter is colored by your
personal right-wing extremism. Despite that, you seem a decent guy. But
you'd be so much better if you replaced your blinders with a bit of
sarvodaya and satyagraha, eh.

Harry,
My 'right-wing extremism,' as you describe what you perceive through the shaded
lens of liberalism, has been colored by the inanities I continue to hear spewing
from the mouths of some Democrats.

You questioned my name calling comment in a recent post. That comment was
prompted by:

"The Washington Times?
The Moonie Paper?

Hehehe.

Trash is as trash reads/"

Seems like name-calling to me, but I could be wrong, again.

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


John...the Washington Times *is* the Moonie paper. It is the propaganda
arm of the Rev. Moon's "Unification Church." One of Moon's zampolit
colonels is at the paper every day, reading every word for political
appropriateness and Moonie correctness, making sure the paper extolls
just the right amount of right-wing doctrine.

Are you claiming the right-wing extremist slant of that rag is not
noticed by you?


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:06:53 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:07:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


I have seen no statement to the effect that the Office of Homeland Defense
desires to spend irresponsibly. In my opinion, the Democrats would do so if they
could.

Well, of course, John...your opinion on every matter is colored by your
personal right-wing extremism. Despite that, you seem a decent guy. But
you'd be so much better if you replaced your blinders with a bit of
sarvodaya and satyagraha, eh.

Harry,
My 'right-wing extremism,' as you describe what you perceive through the shaded
lens of liberalism, has been colored by the inanities I continue to hear spewing
from the mouths of some Democrats.

You questioned my name calling comment in a recent post. That comment was
prompted by:

"The Washington Times?
The Moonie Paper?

Hehehe.

Trash is as trash reads/"

Seems like name-calling to me, but I could be wrong, again.

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


John...the Washington Times *is* the Moonie paper. It is the propaganda
arm of the Rev. Moon's "Unification Church." One of Moon's zampolit
colonels is at the paper every day, reading every word for political
appropriateness and Moonie correctness, making sure the paper extolls
just the right amount of right-wing doctrine.

Are you claiming the right-wing extremist slant of that rag is not
noticed by you?

Harry,
I posted the Wash. Times piece, followed by the equivalent Wash. Post piece on
the same subject, Wal-Mart and retail consumer spending. Both articles said
roughly the same thing. Are you trying to tell me that the Washington Times
article was a lie, but the Washington Post article was not?

Do you consider the Washington Times further right of center than the NY Times
is to the left?

Whether or not I read or only copy articles from the Wash. Times is beside the
point. The point is your calling one "trash" for reading something with which
you apparently disagree, unless your position is supported.

Regards,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH wrote:

Do you consider the Washington Times further right of center than the NY Times
is to the left?


Absolutely. The Wash Times is in outer space, and is the propaganda arm
of Rev. Moon.





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