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You'e calling other people stupid because they don't agree
with your opinions.

When any facts are brought up, you call more names.


Fred Dehl wrote:
What facts?

The FACT that not everybody sees the "privilege" of driving
a gas-guzzler.

The FACT that oil is a non-renewable resource

The FACT that hybrid cars pollute less

The FACT that in many places hybrid cars are allowed in the
commuter lanes & thus avoid the worst traffic delays (time
is money, this alone may be worth the price differential)


... Future gasoline prices are facts? Tell me more, oh sage, so
that I may phone my commodities broker.

Do you genuinely expect the price of gasoline to go down &
stay down over the long run?

DSK

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I think you're assuming buyers are always stupid. What is SUV
buyers were asked this question: "If you can have every single
feature and benefit you asked for, but get 23mpg instead of
14mpg, would that interest you?" How do you suppose some buyers
would react to that?

At $2.50 a gallon, it will cost $5,434 in gas to drive the 23mpg
vehicle 50,000 miles. It will cost $8,928 to drive the 17mpg
vehicle the same. That's a savings of less than $3,500, far less
than the premium for the privilege of driving the higher-mpg
vehicle.

So, yes, the people who are buying hybrids to "save money on gas"
ARE stupid.

Do you think some people might want to save gas just for the hell
of it?

No. Remember John "my family owns an SUV, not me - honest" Kerry?

Sorry, but you're wrong about that.

John Kerry's family doesn't own an SUV?

No idea. Doesn't matter. You're wrong about the fact that people won't
buy certain products just because they have less impact on resources.
You can't imagine this.

What vehicles do you own?

I own a 2002 Tacoma 6 cylinder. Why do you ask?

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Fred Dehl wrote:
1. "Gas-guzzler" is a perjorative term.

No, it is descriptive.

It is accurate in many cases, not so in others.

For example, a 5 ton SUV driven to the grocery store for a
bottle of milk is guzzling gas. The same vehicle, used to
haul large heavy objects over unfavorable terrain, is not.
The difference is in utility.

2. I never claimed everyone wants to drive a vehicle that is less gas-
efficient than other vehicles.

Correct.
But you did claim that those who do not want to drive an
inefficient vehicle were stupid.


3. Your statement refutes nothing I've ever posted.


Actually, it refutes everything you've posted and also
points out your own stupidity & close mindedness.



The FACT that oil is a non-renewable resource




Nobody has brought this up, but now that you have, I must ask why you're
opposed to finding more

Why do you assume I am opposed to finding more?
Another stupid non-fact posted by you.


... since doing so would keep all energy more
affordable.


Clue- oil is non-renewable. No matter how much exploration
is done, we will run out eventually.

A very smart scientist... who made a lot of money in the oil
business... named King Hubbert worked out the math of global
oil supply a long time ago.

Google up the words "Hubbert peak"

Of course, you haven't liked any of the FACTS introduced
into this thread so far, and you won't like these FACTS
either because they prove you're wrong.


DSK

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
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DSK wrote in
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Fred Dehl wrote:
1. "Gas-guzzler" is a perjorative term.

No, it is descriptive.

It is accurate in many cases, not so in others.

For example, a 5 ton SUV driven to the grocery store for a
bottle of milk is guzzling gas. The same vehicle, used to
haul large heavy objects over unfavorable terrain, is not.
The difference is in utility.

Didn't one of your butt-buddies claim they weren't trying to control
behavior? Thanks for proving that statement wrong.

I'm curious: What kind of work do you do?

Fuel prices moving up, just in time for spring boating and driving?
 

For example, a 5 ton SUV driven to the grocery store for a
bottle of milk is guzzling gas. The same vehicle, used to
haul large heavy objects over unfavorable terrain, is not.
The difference is in utility.


Fred Dehl wrote:
Didn't one of your butt-buddies claim they weren't trying to control
behavior? Thanks for proving that statement wrong.


???

Fred, at first I thought you were kind of funny, in a sad
way. I mean, you're the ultimate fat & stupid angry white
man (you're bald, too, right? just a guess). You're like
listening to an audition for a spot on hate-talk radio, with
a laugh track.

However it is not funny when it becomes obvious that you
need help.

Seriously.

DSK

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John Kerry's family doesn't own an SUV?

No idea. Doesn't matter. You're wrong about the fact that people won't
buy certain products just because they have less impact on resources.
You can't imagine this.

What vehicles do you own?

I own a 2002 Tacoma 6 cylinder. Why do you ask?

So you didn't buy a certain produce just because it has less impact on
resources. You just proved that you're an absolute liar. I'd been doing
a great job of that, but I appreciate the help.

What a ridiculous conclusion. I said "people will buy certain products
because they have less impact on resources". I did not say that I did this
with my vehicle purchase.

I needed the following features when I chose my truck:

1) Enough power to tow my boat.
2) Comfortable room for 4 tall passengers on long trips
3) Preferably rear wheel drive
4) As economical as possible when NOT towing

In August of 2002, the choices came down to two: The Tacoma, or a Crown
Victoria. The Ford was having issues with its exploding gas tank feature, so
I passed on it. There were no other vehicles which would fit the
aforementioned requirements at the time.

Any questions?

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"DSK" wrote in message
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For example, a 5 ton SUV driven to the grocery store for a bottle of milk
is guzzling gas. The same vehicle, used to haul large heavy objects over
unfavorable terrain, is not. The difference is in utility.


Fred Dehl wrote:
Didn't one of your butt-buddies claim they weren't trying to control
behavior? Thanks for proving that statement wrong.


???

Fred, at first I thought you were kind of funny, in a sad way. I mean,
you're the ultimate fat & stupid angry white man (you're bald, too, right?
just a guess). You're like listening to an audition for a spot on
hate-talk radio, with a laugh track.

However it is not funny when it becomes obvious that you need help.

Seriously.

DSK


The moron thinks it's a good idea to drive a Hummer all over town doing
errands. Oops...I shouldn't have said that. I'm controlling peoples'
behavior again.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
The moron thinks it's a good idea to drive a Hummer all over town doing
errands.

I'm not sure that's true, he never said it was a good idea
to waste expensive & non-renewable resources...
He said people who don't enjoy it are stupid.



... Oops...I shouldn't have said that. I'm controlling peoples'
behavior again.


Can you explain that? Fred apparently can't.

Normally, to people like Fred D who are obsessivley
compelled to post hateful pseudo-political spew here, I'd
say "get a boat." However that would be a really destructive
& dangerous suggestion for Fred.

DSK

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in
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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
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DSK wrote in
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Fred Dehl wrote:
1. "Gas-guzzler" is a perjorative term.

No, it is descriptive.

It is accurate in many cases, not so in others.

For example, a 5 ton SUV driven to the grocery store for a
bottle of milk is guzzling gas. The same vehicle, used to
haul large heavy objects over unfavorable terrain, is not.
The difference is in utility.

Didn't one of your butt-buddies claim they weren't trying to control
behavior? Thanks for proving that statement wrong.

I'm curious: What kind of work do you do?

Stay on topic.

I need to know what kind of work you do. You will get no further
gratification from this discussion until I have an answer. Hang onto your
diapers.

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DSK wrote in
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Normally, to people like Fred D who are obsessivley
compelled to post hateful pseudo-political spew here, I'd
say "get a boat."

Boats are far worse gas guzzlers than Hummers.

That's why I asked you what kind of work you do.