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JimH January 25th 06 10:37 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has no
bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it all
depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before Spring
launch.



JimH January 25th 06 10:45 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.



Make two phone calls.


Must be nice. ;-)

BTW: Did you decide to sell your smaller boat or hang onto it?



JohnH January 25th 06 10:52 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:43:36 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has no
bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it all
depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before Spring
launch.




Make two phone calls.


Why so many? In Harbor Cove, it takes only one!
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 25th 06 10:57 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:37:14 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has no
bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it all
depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring
launch.


wash, wax - launch.


My 17 year old son is taking the USCG PS course starting in February (basic
safety course) and I plan to take him out (sans wife) quite often in spring
once the boat is in the water to teach him about the boat and boat handling.
Once I feel he has the skills to maneuver the boat (it will not be hard as
it is only a 20 footer), handle emergency situations and fully understand
the rules of the road he will be able to take it out with his friends
without me for water skiing, tubing or wake boarding.

With that understanding he plans to help me with these projects this spring,
something he never did when we had the 32 footer. ;-)



JohnH January 25th 06 11:06 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:57:11 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.

Make two phone calls.


Must be nice. ;-)

BTW: Did you decide to sell your smaller boat or hang onto it?



I dunno. When I am sorta interested in selling, I usually let a few
people know and a buyer wanders up. That's how I've done it in the past.
I do have a couple of boating project in mind. Maybe I'll know more
after the Miami boat show.

One thing I know for sure...Herring should have made an offer. In the
intervening time, I've learned that Parker has imposed a very
substantial price increase on this model, and a few fellow travelers
have insisted the price I had in mind was much too low.


Did you get the flyer at the fishing show? 2002 2520XL, loaded, $57000 or
thereabouts. There's no way I could convince the wife we needed a Parker. I
love them, but she doesn't. She does like the Grady 228. I think that may
be my next boat. (Whenever.)
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH January 25th 06 11:15 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:09:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:57:11 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.
Make two phone calls.
Must be nice. ;-)

BTW: Did you decide to sell your smaller boat or hang onto it?


I dunno. When I am sorta interested in selling, I usually let a few
people know and a buyer wanders up. That's how I've done it in the past.
I do have a couple of boating project in mind. Maybe I'll know more
after the Miami boat show.

One thing I know for sure...Herring should have made an offer. In the
intervening time, I've learned that Parker has imposed a very
substantial price increase on this model, and a few fellow travelers
have insisted the price I had in mind was much too low.


Did you get the flyer at the fishing show? 2002 2520XL, loaded, $57000 or
thereabouts. There's no way I could convince the wife we needed a Parker. I
love them, but she doesn't. She does like the Grady 228. I think that may
be my next boat. (Whenever.)
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



No, I didn't see that. Somewhere between that and $62,000 was what I was
thinking of before I found out that would be too low. Had you made a bid
in that range, you would have been successful.

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Skipper January 25th 06 11:30 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

--
Skipper

JIMinFL January 25th 06 11:50 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
Here we go again.
Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

--
Skipper




JohnH January 25th 06 11:56 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:22:15 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:09:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:57:11 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.
Make two phone calls.
Must be nice. ;-)

BTW: Did you decide to sell your smaller boat or hang onto it?


I dunno. When I am sorta interested in selling, I usually let a few
people know and a buyer wanders up. That's how I've done it in the past.
I do have a couple of boating project in mind. Maybe I'll know more
after the Miami boat show.

One thing I know for sure...Herring should have made an offer. In the
intervening time, I've learned that Parker has imposed a very
substantial price increase on this model, and a few fellow travelers
have insisted the price I had in mind was much too low.
Did you get the flyer at the fishing show? 2002 2520XL, loaded, $57000 or
thereabouts. There's no way I could convince the wife we needed a Parker. I
love them, but she doesn't. She does like the Grady 228. I think that may
be my next boat. (Whenever.)
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

No, I didn't see that. Somewhere between that and $62,000 was what I was
thinking of before I found out that would be too low. Had you made a bid
in that range, you would have been successful.

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Oh, I'm not knocking the boat in any way, John. The walk-around cabin is
nice. But...it's not much bigger than your present boat.


That's true, but with the transom mount, there is 'no' space lost on the
deck. It has a lot more useable room than my Proline. Also, it seems like
there is about twice as much storage as my Proline has.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH January 25th 06 11:57 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 25th 06 11:57 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"JIMinFL" wrote in message
k.net...
Here we go again.
Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

--
Skipper



Skippy reportedly trailered his 22 foot Bayliner from Kansas to Mexico. He
also reportedly strapped one or two 55 gallon drums filled with gas to his
deck for added fuel. He then set out on the Sea of Cortez and survived
storms (he calls them Tostitos) with waves approaching 30 feet.

That is his *adventure*.

The Cortex challenge is for Harry to travel to Mexico, launch his boat and
survive the terrible Sea of Cortez as Skippy did.

Go figure.



JimH January 26th 06 12:00 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?



JohnH January 26th 06 12:02 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:50:41 GMT, "JIMinFL" wrote:

Here we go again.
Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

--
Skipper



For me, a fishing trip in the Sea of Cortez would be both an adventure
*and* a challenge!
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH January 26th 06 12:07 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:00:15 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.

Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!

Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?


I don't have one. Otherwise I might give it a try.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 26th 06 12:13 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:00:15 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my
Parker.

Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!

Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?


I don't have one. Otherwise I might give it a try.
--
John H



Take Skippy's advice and strap one or two 55 gallon drums filled with fuel
to increase your range. ;-)



JohnH January 26th 06 12:18 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:13:43 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:00:15 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my
Parker.

Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!

Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?

I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?


I don't have one. Otherwise I might give it a try.
--
John H



Take Skippy's advice and strap one or two 55 gallon drums filled with fuel
to increase your range. ;-)


Well, like I said, I don't have one. It appears that one could do a lot of
sightseeing and fishing with regular tanks. The towns don't appear to be
all that far apart.

http://www.cruisecortez.com/sancarloscruisingarea.htm
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Skipper January 26th 06 12:34 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JIMinFL wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.


It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 12:35 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:

Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.


Not the best choice for this adventure, IMO.

--
Skipper

Dan Krueger January 26th 06 12:38 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JimH wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:30:59 -0600, Skipper wrote:


JohnH wrote:


The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.

Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!

Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


I'd take the Parker, simply because it's bigger.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?



It would have trouble with the Port Everglades inlet challenge on a day
with winds over 10 mph.

Dan

Skipper January 26th 06 12:41 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:

Well, like I said, I don't have one. It appears that one could do a lot of
sightseeing and fishing with regular tanks. The towns don't appear to be
all that far apart.


http://www.cruisecortez.com/sancarloscruisingarea.htm


Those are not towns, John. The area is still very desolate. And besides,
the course would be West across the Gulf, not North along the coast. But
you ARE correct, regular tanks will do.

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 12:45 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
Dan Krueger wrote:

Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?


It would have trouble with the Port Everglades inlet challenge on a day
with winds over 10 mph.


What? You mean that inlet has conditions worse than the Tostitos and
30-footers one regularly encounters in the Cortez? Damn!

--
Skipper

JohnH January 26th 06 12:53 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:34:34 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JIMinFL wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.


It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


Why would a 25' Parker fail and a 22' Grady win?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH January 26th 06 12:54 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:41:44 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Well, like I said, I don't have one. It appears that one could do a lot of
sightseeing and fishing with regular tanks. The towns don't appear to be
all that far apart.


http://www.cruisecortez.com/sancarloscruisingarea.htm


Those are not towns, John. The area is still very desolate. And besides,
the course would be West across the Gulf, not North along the coast. But
you ARE correct, regular tanks will do.


Here's a map of the whole area. Tell me where you're talking about.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Skipper January 26th 06 01:01 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:

http://www.cruisecortez.com/sancarloscruisingarea.htm


Those are not towns, John. The area is still very desolate. And besides,
the course would be West across the Gulf, not North along the coast. But
you ARE correct, regular tanks will do.


Here's a map of the whole area. Tell me where you're talking about.


http://tinyurl.com/9n8a9

Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 01:07 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:

It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.


Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


Why would a 25' Parker fail and a 22' Grady win?


The only thing exceptional in this challenge is the trailerablility of
the respective boats. Believe me, that Parker would be a real PITA to
trailer...the Grady would not. And then when you get there, the Grady
would do everything as well as the Parker. You've got to look at the
total picture, IMO.

--
Skipper

JohnH January 26th 06 01:13 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:07:31 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.


Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


Why would a 25' Parker fail and a 22' Grady win?


The only thing exceptional in this challenge is the trailerablility of
the respective boats. Believe me, that Parker would be a real PITA to
trailer...the Grady would not. And then when you get there, the Grady
would do everything as well as the Parker. You've got to look at the
total picture, IMO.


If trailoring is the main part of the challenge, I'd get one of these:

http://www.kawasaki.com/product_deta...g=wate rcraft

and tow an inflatable with fuel.
--
John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Dan Krueger January 26th 06 01:19 AM

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Skipper wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:


Why not the 1985 22 foot Bayliner?



It would have trouble with the Port Everglades inlet challenge on a day
with winds over 10 mph.



What? You mean that inlet has conditions worse than the Tostitos and
30-footers one regularly encounters in the Cortez? Damn!

--
Skipper


Tell me what a Tostito is (besides a corn chip) and I can probably
answer you.

Dan

Skipper January 26th 06 01:22 AM

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JohnH wrote:

If trailoring is the main part of the challenge, I'd get one of these:


http://www.kawasaki.com/product_deta...g=wate rcraft


and tow an inflatable with fuel.


Well, I did make the singlehanded crossing in a Hobie many years
ago...saves on fuel.

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 01:24 AM

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Dan Krueger wrote:

What? You mean that inlet has conditions worse than the Tostitos and
30-footers one regularly encounters in the Cortez? Damn!


Tell me what a Tostito is (besides a corn chip) and I can probably
answer you.


A figment of Krause's imagination and posting style.

--
Skipper

Wayne.B January 26th 06 01:30 AM

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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:01:40 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.


So when is your next trip?

We eagerly await the report.


Eisboch January 26th 06 01:33 AM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
JIMinFL wrote:

The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no
match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.


It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.

--
Skipper


and your Bayliner?

Eisboch



Skipper January 26th 06 01:41 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote:

Skipper wrote:


Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.


So when is your next trip?


We eagerly await the report.


Your really believe this NG has progressed to the point where trip
reports can be posted without the resultant insults?

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 01:43 AM

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Eisboch wrote:

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


and your Bayliner?


My Bayliner? Yes, a well commissioned 2252 would outperform that Parker
in this challenge, IMO.

--
Skipper

Eisboch January 26th 06 02:13 AM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


and your Bayliner?


My Bayliner? Yes, a well commissioned 2252 would outperform that Parker
in this challenge, IMO.

--
Skipper


Good for you, Skipper! You have successfully turned back the clock of time
to rec.boats of 1997! :-)

Eisboch



Wayne.B January 26th 06 02:36 AM

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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Your really believe this NG has progressed to the point where trip
reports can be posted without the resultant insults?


I've posted a few with no insults from anyone but you.

So when is your next outing?


Jack Redington January 26th 06 02:54 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.


and your Bayliner?


My Bayliner? Yes, a well commissioned 2252 would outperform that Parker
in this challenge, IMO.

--
Skipper



Good for you, Skipper! You have successfully turned back the clock of time
to rec.boats of 1997! :-)

Eisboch



We are not going to relive the famous "Bayliner sides flex" thread/war
are we.. :-)

Capt Jack R..


Skipper January 26th 06 03:28 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:

The only thing exceptional in this challenge is the trailerablility of
the respective boats. Believe me, that Parker would be a real PITA to
trailer...the Grady would not. And then when you get there, the Grady
would do everything as well as the Parker. You've got to look at the
total picture, IMO.


I've trailered the Parker. I have a first-class alum trailer with
stainless disk brakes and torsion bar axles. The rig tows beautifully. I
just don't like to waste my time trailering boats any distances.


I'm sure that Parker is a fine boat. The towability issues are over its
high boxy cabin, total weight, and width. The Grady would be far easier
to tow.

--
Skipper

Don White January 26th 06 03:35 AM

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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:34:34 -0600, Skipper wrote:


JIMinFL wrote:


The Gradys are wonderful boats. But the 228 is no match for my Parker.


Now you're just making me feel bad. Not sure what you mean by 'no match'.
Size wise, that's for sure. But, for a 22'er, it's got a *lot* of deck
room. I could force myself to get by!


Should one get the itch for *real* adventure, which would be the better
boat for a Cortez challenge?


Please define adventure.
Please define Cortez challenge.


It's a legit question. I believe a *trailerable* boat should be truly
trailerable...and seaworthy. The boat should open up non local waters.
The Cortez challenge presents such a test, a true shake 'n bake. This
test involves trailering the boat to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The
boat is then launched and makes a 100-mile crossing of the Sea of Cortez
to Santa Rosalia, a former mining village with a French influence, in
Baja California Sur. The boat is then tested as a fishing platform while
going after the great variety of gamefish abundant in the Gulf.

Now I believe the Parker would fail miserably in this test. The Grady
would win the day.



Why would a 25' Parker fail and a 22' Grady win?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Because Harry owns a Parker.

Skipper January 26th 06 03:43 AM

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Don White wrote:

Why would a 25' Parker fail and a 22' Grady win?


Because Harry owns a Parker.


His towing inexperience, unfamiliarity with the destination, and
admitted coordination difficulties wouldn't help either. However, I
would be willing to assist or at least tell him where to get off.

--
Skipper

Skipper January 26th 06 04:01 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:

A well commissioned 2252 would outperform that Parker in this
challenge, IMO.


Another road I'll not go down again. Move on from this foolishness,
Snipper.


Have no intention to navigate this road again, Krause. It's just that
you were never told why I *knew* that Parker would come up short. Now
your know. No skin...right?

--
Skipper


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